When's the US getting the CDI engine?
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When's the US getting the CDI engine?
Saw my 1st GLK in the flesh yesterday. I really liked it, but the 2nd row seats kind of felt a little smaller, then the competing VW Tiguan, but it wasn't such a big deal.
It seems like the 3.5L V6 out of the ML is a little overkill in such a small SUV, when the competition has 2.0T engines (Tiguan), and 3.0si (X3). This would be a great engine for the CDI, and if they had a CDI model, it would be a great car.
Anyways, is MB supposed to be releasing the CDI in the US or not?
It seems like the 3.5L V6 out of the ML is a little overkill in such a small SUV, when the competition has 2.0T engines (Tiguan), and 3.0si (X3). This would be a great engine for the CDI, and if they had a CDI model, it would be a great car.
Anyways, is MB supposed to be releasing the CDI in the US or not?
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2005 C230K Sport Sedan, 6 speed manual
The latest information on the rumor mill, is the GLK will come to the USA with a Diesel engine. Timing is still a bit hazy, but thought to be late summer 2009.
The engine will be a high-tech 2.2 liter four cylinder. Power will be about 150 kW (200 hp), and torque will be about 500 N-m (370 lb-ft). Timing chain and gears will be at the rear of the engine. Injection will common-rail with piezo-electric injectors. It will have two-stage turbocharging.
Performance will be breathtaking for such a small Diesel. European versions will be either 6-speed manual or 7-speed automatic transmission. I am hoping the 6-speed manual also comes to the US.
The engine will be a high-tech 2.2 liter four cylinder. Power will be about 150 kW (200 hp), and torque will be about 500 N-m (370 lb-ft). Timing chain and gears will be at the rear of the engine. Injection will common-rail with piezo-electric injectors. It will have two-stage turbocharging.
Performance will be breathtaking for such a small Diesel. European versions will be either 6-speed manual or 7-speed automatic transmission. I am hoping the 6-speed manual also comes to the US.
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From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
2010 GLK
Diesel in North America
From MB Canada...
Thank you for recent email. Please note we anticipate that the
Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class will launch in January 2009 as a model year 2010 vehicle.
Unfortunately, a diesel engine will not be offered in Canada at
the time of launch. The current diesel engine offered in Europe does meet
the certification requirements in Canada, however the factory is working
hard to ensure the diesel engine will be offered in the future, possibly
model year 2011.
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Therefore I decided to purchase a GLK 350 now instead of waiting for the 320 or 220 CDI.
Thank you for recent email. Please note we anticipate that the
Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class will launch in January 2009 as a model year 2010 vehicle.
Unfortunately, a diesel engine will not be offered in Canada at
the time of launch. The current diesel engine offered in Europe does meet
the certification requirements in Canada, however the factory is working
hard to ensure the diesel engine will be offered in the future, possibly
model year 2011.
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Therefore I decided to purchase a GLK 350 now instead of waiting for the 320 or 220 CDI.
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2015 E250 BT 4M
The 4 cylinder diesel is at least one year away.
This engine is built in three versions; it is expected that the NA 4 cylinder diesel will be the mid-range version and it will offer 168 hp. The higher performance version with approx 201 hp in a much lighter GLK would offer better performance than the ML 320 Bluetec, so this engine will therefore not likely be offered to the NA market. MB does not want a GLK diesel to cannibalize its ML diesel sales. There is also the issue of CAFE (corporate average fuel economy); a four cylinder mid-range diesel offered in both GLK and C Class will increase MB's CAFE for the US market.
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Waiting...Waiting...Waiting
For the "Noodleheads" in Montvale,NJ and Stuttgart Germany to send the
BlueTec Hybrid model of the GLK over to North America.
4 cylinder,non-symmetrical twin turbos,CDI type engine WITH Electric Hybrid
Drive...50MPG Hwy.
Waiting...Waiting...Waiting...
BlueTec Hybrid model of the GLK over to North America.
4 cylinder,non-symmetrical twin turbos,CDI type engine WITH Electric Hybrid
Drive...50MPG Hwy.
Waiting...Waiting...Waiting...
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I had a look at it last week, very nice SUV and well priced, but I'm definitely waiting for the Diesel, it's what will make the difference in the long run, as gas prices go up again.
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[QUOTE=DerekACS;3297257]As for an Intro date for North America, see recent post quoting MB Canada.
The 4 cylinder diesel is at least one year away.
QUOTE]
I think you ment to say at least TWO years away. Since its 09 now and the GLK is already a 2010 MY currently. So a CDi GLK wont be here until at least 2011, if it makes it here then.
The 4 cylinder diesel is at least one year away.
QUOTE]
I think you ment to say at least TWO years away. Since its 09 now and the GLK is already a 2010 MY currently. So a CDi GLK wont be here until at least 2011, if it makes it here then.
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From: Santa Cruz, CA; I'm a temporary transplant from Oklahoma, by way of Saudi Arabia (awful!)
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Take this as whatever you want but I'm a former Mercedes-Benz salesman. MB did a cross America tour with several GLKs, an X3, and an RDX.
I asked several different guys if there was going to be a CDI and every one of them said probably not and that a hybrid was more likely.
Perhaps they wanted to keep us sales guys in the dark so we'd sell the 350s, but that's what I was told (and now I'm "certified" in the GLK!).
I asked several different guys if there was going to be a CDI and every one of them said probably not and that a hybrid was more likely.
Perhaps they wanted to keep us sales guys in the dark so we'd sell the 350s, but that's what I was told (and now I'm "certified" in the GLK!).
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'14 GLK250 Diesel
Everything I've heard, in print, online, from the local dealer, and from MBCA, says you should be looking for the 4 cyl twin turbo diesel in calendar year 2010 as a 2011 model. Announcement could come as early as this year's NY show [April].
I'm guessing 3Q 2010 availability in North America, for both the C-Class and GLK.
(In the meantime, Audi has committed to the 4 cyl diesel in the A3, early in calendar year 2010, model year TBD.)
Hybrid is probably coming, but even further out - they have much more work to do there.
I'm guessing 3Q 2010 availability in North America, for both the C-Class and GLK.
(In the meantime, Audi has committed to the 4 cyl diesel in the A3, early in calendar year 2010, model year TBD.)
Hybrid is probably coming, but even further out - they have much more work to do there.
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Don't even get your Hopes Up (Posted 9/10/2011)
The ******* in Montvale,N.J. have somehow (AS They Always Do) Thrown the
Monkey Wrench into the Diesel GLK [and/or] Diesel/Electric Hybrid GLK.
" Gefickt Wieder durch R.E.M.F.s in New Jersey! "
Monkey Wrench into the Diesel GLK [and/or] Diesel/Electric Hybrid GLK.
" Gefickt Wieder durch R.E.M.F.s in New Jersey! "
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2011 GLK 250 CDI
I'm driving a GLK 250 CDI in Spain and I love it. At 140 kph in top gear it is only running at about 2500 rpm, and on the Autobahn I've had it up to 195 and it is just purring. And the low end torque is fantastic.
Does anyone have any more rumours about when a diesel version might be available in Canada. It would be a shame if they introduce it with the 220 when the new 250 Bluetec is so advanced.
Does anyone have any more rumours about when a diesel version might be available in Canada. It would be a shame if they introduce it with the 220 when the new 250 Bluetec is so advanced.
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Wunnerful
That you're enjoying your GLK Diesel.
[extra nice RPM to Speed figures!]
[Yeah, Isn't the 220 engine the one They've had Soooooooooo Much trouble with in the E.U. ?]
I'm afraid pictures or videos of you enjoying yours are as close as we in
North America will ever come to Ownership.
[extra nice RPM to Speed figures!]
[Yeah, Isn't the 220 engine the one They've had Soooooooooo Much trouble with in the E.U. ?]
I'm afraid pictures or videos of you enjoying yours are as close as we in
North America will ever come to Ownership.
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Somebody, anybody, give me one or perhaps two really really good reasons to own a diesel engine in a vehicle the size of the GLK in the U.S.A. Come on. There must be one.
Waiting.
Wayne
Waiting.
Wayne
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[QUOTE=venchka;4934131]Somebody, anybody, give me one or perhaps two really really good reasons to own a diesel engine in a vehicle the size of the GLK in the U.S.A. Come on. There must be one.
Waiting.
How about 20 mpg in town and > 28 mpg on the highway. Plus much greater towing ability and only slightly less performance if we're talking about the 250 CDI engine?
Bish
Waiting.
How about 20 mpg in town and > 28 mpg on the highway. Plus much greater towing ability and only slightly less performance if we're talking about the 250 CDI engine?
Bish
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That would be 20/28 mpg (percentage of each not given-important fact missing) at $0.70, or more, extra per gallon. This week I paid $3.26/gal. for 93 octane gasoline. Diesel is running $3.95 at places where the price is posted for passersby to see. Factor in higher initial cost, higher operating cost, higher maintenance cost. Tell me when to stop adding costs.
I doubt very seriously if the GLK structure, suspension, brakes, etc. would be changed at all for a small diesel. No increase in towing capacity. Towing ability? Define please.
Next good reasons?
Wayne
ps: Has anyone seen the break even numbers for the VW Jetta diesels? It is in double digit YEARS.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...you-money.html
I doubt very seriously if the GLK structure, suspension, brakes, etc. would be changed at all for a small diesel. No increase in towing capacity. Towing ability? Define please.
Next good reasons?
Wayne
ps: Has anyone seen the break even numbers for the VW Jetta diesels? It is in double digit YEARS.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...you-money.html
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2010 GLK 220CDI 4M BlueEFFICIENCY
Definition: Towing with low rpm increases milage and reduces "stress" of the engine, i.e. provides a more comfortable ride.
Ability: Maximum torque of 250 CDI Blue/EFFICIENCY is 369 lb/ft / 1,600-1,800 rpm, vs. 350's 258 lb/ft / 2,400-5,000 rpm.
MB figures with regard to milage: 250 CDI Blue/EFFICIENCY 32/40 MPG (city/"außerorts") vs. 16/28 MPG for the 350, both 4MATIC.
Ability: Maximum torque of 250 CDI Blue/EFFICIENCY is 369 lb/ft / 1,600-1,800 rpm, vs. 350's 258 lb/ft / 2,400-5,000 rpm.
MB figures with regard to milage: 250 CDI Blue/EFFICIENCY 32/40 MPG (city/"außerorts") vs. 16/28 MPG for the 350, both 4MATIC.
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That would be 20/28 mpg (percentage of each not given-important fact missing) at $0.70, or more, extra per gallon. This week I paid $3.26/gal. for 93 octane gasoline. Diesel is running $3.95 at places where the price is posted for passersby to see. Factor in higher initial cost, higher operating cost, higher maintenance cost. Tell me when to stop adding costs.
I doubt very seriously if the GLK structure, suspension, brakes, etc. would be changed at all for a small diesel. No increase in towing capacity. Towing ability? Define please.
Next good reasons?
Wayne
ps: Has anyone seen the break even numbers for the VW Jetta diesels? It is in double digit YEARS.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...you-money.html
I doubt very seriously if the GLK structure, suspension, brakes, etc. would be changed at all for a small diesel. No increase in towing capacity. Towing ability? Define please.
Next good reasons?
Wayne
ps: Has anyone seen the break even numbers for the VW Jetta diesels? It is in double digit YEARS.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...you-money.html
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Fair enough. I want a diesel too. A big honking diesel in a big honking truck with a big honking trailer strapped to the back. Alas. It ain't happening.
Wayne
Wayne
