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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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I have a continental 4x4 on 4matic glk. I noticed that there are no arrow sign on the sidewall, neither the word of "outside" as some of you pointed out in P-zero tires. Are the Conti 4x4 tires considered to be unidirectional even without the arrow or outside stamping? Can tires be changed from side to side?

Since it is a all wheel drive, there is no driving and non-driving axles as defined in RWD. When doing tire rotation on 4matic, what is the best way to ensure even wear out of the tire set? Front to back rotation or criss-cross? Thanks.

Also, where is the power steering fluid reservoir located? Seems hidden somewhere in the engine bay.

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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I had a M-B dealer, Star Motors in Houston, balance and rotate my 20" Pirelli Scorpions a few miles shy of 5,000 per Mercedes-Benz's recommendation. I have no clue how the tires were rotated. The car drives perfectly before & after the rotation. Nuff said.

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hawknight
I have a continental 4x4 on 4matic glk. I noticed that there are no arrow sign on the sidewall, neither the word of "outside" as some of you pointed out in P-zero tires.
According to TireRack's photos these tires have a non-directional, symmetric thread design, so there's no need to mount them in any specific way.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Car drvr
According to TireRack's photos these tires have a non-directional, symmetric thread design, so there's no need to mount them in any specific way.
Agreed.

You can cross rotate & front to back them since they are the same size on all four corners & aren't one way spinning only.

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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So the best bet is to rotate front to back on same side every 5K miles, am I ok?
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Just to throw another fly in the ointment...
Michelin has an animation showing the fronts going straight to the back on the same side and the rears crossing and going to the front. That ensures that every tire will be on every corner sooner or later.

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hawknight
So the best bet is to rotate front to back on same side every 5K miles, am I ok?
A bit more than that I am afraid:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...&affiliate=FH3
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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I saw this link before. But some people argue the cross-rotate are old practice. They are against moving tires from one side to the other for modern radial tires, regardless of non-directional or directional.
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The tire rotation direction is the clue.

The instruction in the GLK Operator's Manual with regard to tire rotation reads: "If your vehicle is equipped with tires of the same dimension all around, tires can be rotated, observing a front-to-rear rotation pattern that will maintain the intended rotation (spinning) direction of the tire (Y page 231).".
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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If you just move each tire one position clockwise, or counterclockwise each time each tire will have been in each corner after four rotations which is what you want. All the criss-cross business does the same thing and is easier to forget. Obviously not for uni-directional tires.
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Originally Posted by GLKKa2H
The tire rotation direction is the clue.

The instruction in the GLK Operator's Manual with regard to tire rotation reads: "If your vehicle is equipped with tires of the same dimension all around, tires can be rotated, observing a front-to-rear rotation pattern that will maintain the intended rotation (spinning) direction of the tire (Y page 231).".
But it doesn't even out wear esp. on the edges with that method.
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Forget "C". Does not apply to the GLK. I guess "C" is what I recall seeing on the Michelin web site. At the 10,000 balance & rotate service I will ask what they do.
Personally, I think it is more important to keep the tires balanced as they wear. Swapping locations can't hurt either I suppose.

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The whole rotation deal is based on the fact that no wheel, axle assembly really rolls true. Each is a bit off one way or another and having each tire in each corner over time theoretically evens the wear pattern on each tire. Note A&C have each tire in each corner 25% of the time, same as moving each one one place CW or CCW each time. B makes no sense. Again, all this goes out the window with different front and rear tire sizes or one direction tires.
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B = A - in that it just makes the wear evening process go faster.

Example - If you have rear inner wear - it moves accross to the front & is remediated by becoming the front outter edge.
Concurrently, the Front goes back & across to provide wear that similar to the original rears (above).
you do it enough times & the combines all 8 edges of the 4 tires will have even wear in a shorter amount of time than A.


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It appears to me that B only switches corners, not ever in all 4 positions which is what you want. If the left front is a little out of whack and causing a bit of unusual wear it will only apply to two tires, theoretically causing those two to wear out and need replacing before the other two.
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Originally Posted by hawknight
I saw this link before. But some people argue the cross-rotate are old practice. They are against moving tires from one side to the other for modern radial tires, regardless of non-directional or directional.
That's what I've always heard; radials should be swapped F > R only, never side to side.
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Then why, in all three of the diagrams in post #12, does rotation involve X'ing them? Diagram from the '50s maybe?
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Relax; I didn't say the diagrams are wrong, just what I've heard over the years.

Change happens...
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It's real simple. If the tread design allows for rotation in either direction move them anyway you want but you should use a consistent pattern when rotating. If they are uni-directional they can only go front to back. Unless you want to dismount the tire from the rim and move them left to right. Sort of pointless. That's the two options.
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