W204 to X204?
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W204 to X204?
I have owned two W204's an 08 and an 11. My Wife and I are considering an X204 as our next vehicle instead of anouther W204 (2012). Pros/Cons on the X204 would be appreciated.
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2004 Volvo XC70; 2012 GLK 350 4matic
Different strokes for different folks. Apples vs. Oranges. Chardonnay vs. White Burgundy. Rock vs. Rap.
"Ya pays yer money and takes yer choose."
You can't much in either. You can put more in the GLK.
Like all multi-varible questions, the answer is: It depends.
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"Ya pays yer money and takes yer choose."
You can't much in either. You can put more in the GLK.
Like all multi-varible questions, the answer is: It depends.
Wayne
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We also own both & they have done nothing to differentiate the steering on both these C-Class based mobile chassis.
The real difference is you sit higher on the X204.
Both are a great ride & drive if you are willing to be hands-on - no doze type.
The real difference is you sit higher on the X204.
Both are a great ride & drive if you are willing to be hands-on - no doze type.
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Nissan GT-R BE / '12 Ducati-1199 Panigale S / '12 C300-4M Loaded/GLK350-4M Loaded
Much lower Ride Height + Sport Tuned Stiffer and plus even Lower Springs (Sport Model C) + Stiffer Dampening (read as shocks) + Superior Performance Ultra-Wide Low Profile Staggered 18" P-Zero Tires + Greater Turn In + Tighter Steering Ratio + Less dampened Steering System (sport model only) = C-Class Sport Sedan's slightly better feed back and road handling performance.
However, it should be noted that neither of these are in the same universe as my other summer ride....
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Much Taller Ride Height + Softer Springs + Softer Dampening + Less Grippier Tires (even the 20's) + Less Turn-In + Larger Steering Ratio + Dampened Steering System = GLK's less appealing road feel and handling characteristics.
Much lower Ride Height + Sport Tuned Stiffer and plus even Lower Springs (Sport Model C) + Stiffer Dampening (read as shocks) + Superior Performance Ultra-Wide Low Profile Staggered 18" P-Zero Tires + Greater Turn In + Tighter Steering Ratio + Less dampened Steering System (sport model only) = C-Class Sport Sedan's slightly better feed back and road handling performance.
However, it should be noted that neither of these are in the same universe as my other summer ride....
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Much lower Ride Height + Sport Tuned Stiffer and plus even Lower Springs (Sport Model C) + Stiffer Dampening (read as shocks) + Superior Performance Ultra-Wide Low Profile Staggered 18" P-Zero Tires + Greater Turn In + Tighter Steering Ratio + Less dampened Steering System (sport model only) = C-Class Sport Sedan's slightly better feed back and road handling performance.
However, it should be noted that neither of these are in the same universe as my other summer ride....
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I lam really really ike your GT-R ...... Sweet ride.
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My sister in law has a C300 4-matic and it's a very nice car.
For me, maybe I am used to the Sienna & the GLK, I'd prefer the GLK over the C-class.
For me, maybe I am used to the Sienna & the GLK, I'd prefer the GLK over the C-class.
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2004 Volvo XC70; 2012 GLK 350 4matic
Reading the above, it is obvious that there are at least two different GLK 350s being produced in Breman.
Ours. Perfect.
Theirs. Total disaster.
We like Ours very much.
YMMV.
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Ours. Perfect.
Theirs. Total disaster.
We like Ours very much.
YMMV.
Wayne
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2015 VW GTI.S4; 2016 Audi Q3 Prestige
Reading above only a fool would compare an X-over to a sedan with a component's list.
Almost like saying the bigger numbers must mean better...
I just don't see the point; were you going to track these things?
Most likely they are errand runners & good at merging on the beltway.
Else, you ain't doing 9/10th on these things around any s-curves.
Lets not make it out to be more than what surburbia wants.
No prize either in showing a car with enough techno aid to drive itself @ sebring.
Yawn.
Almost like saying the bigger numbers must mean better...
I just don't see the point; were you going to track these things?
Most likely they are errand runners & good at merging on the beltway.
Else, you ain't doing 9/10th on these things around any s-curves.
Lets not make it out to be more than what surburbia wants.
No prize either in showing a car with enough techno aid to drive itself @ sebring.
Yawn.
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Reading above only a fool would compare an X-over to a sedan with a component's list.
Almost like saying the bigger numbers must mean better...
I just don't see the point; were you going to track these things?
Most likely they are errand runners & good at merging on the beltway.
Else, you ain't doing 9/10th on these things around any s-curves.
Lets not make it out to be more than what surburbia wants.
No prize either in showing a car with enough techno aid to drive itself @ sebring.
Yawn.
Almost like saying the bigger numbers must mean better...
I just don't see the point; were you going to track these things?
Most likely they are errand runners & good at merging on the beltway.
Else, you ain't doing 9/10th on these things around any s-curves.
Lets not make it out to be more than what surburbia wants.
No prize either in showing a car with enough techno aid to drive itself @ sebring.
Yawn.
First, no one, and I mean NO ONE has called the GLK a "TOTAL DISASTER" here except for venchka, who naturally reads way too deep into these posts and can, at times, place words in other peoples mouths, so no surprise there. In fact, I said that my "wife loves" her GLK! So venchka has that in common with her... nothing wrong with that. It should also be stated that I am on record here on MBWorld calling the GLK a "chick car" (2010) and that the "handling left me kind-of limp to say the least"... as well as stating that "the GLK is indeed a Home Run for its intended demographic",... far from a "total disaster" as mentioned here.
Second, naturally if the only car you drive is a daily driver with soft comfortable suspension, cushy ride, and numb steering feed-back, your appreciation and lack of experience can make the driver *forget* what a great handling car should actually feel & handle like. As an owner of both the GLK, C-Class Sport, along with a GT-R, ( not to mention that I own a NISMO tuning garage), I naturally felt I was the best suited to answer the OP question since I not only own and drive both of the cars he is interested in buying, I can compare them to a great handling car, the outer extreme, to better judge and compare them with, to list the differences, which are significant, and to dispute the notion that there "is nothing to differentiate the steering" on both X&W versions. Well, that is total BS. And the ONLY way you will feel and know the difference is if you push the cars to their extreme limits. Only there will you find the truth, which is SIGNIFICANT between these two chassis'!
So let's look at these two cars for what they truly are, entry Benz's with family transport in mind.
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My vote: = The C-Class Sport Sedan for obvious reasons. Sorry for roughing-up your feathers, but that's the honest truth IMO, which hurts sometimes.
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Did y'all ask the same question at the W-204 forum? I wonder what they will say?
For the record, going way back to the original Baby Benz, and after several test drives, the C-Class doesn't do anything for us. Purely our personal opinion.
Wayne
For the record, going way back to the original Baby Benz, and after several test drives, the C-Class doesn't do anything for us. Purely our personal opinion.
Wayne
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How is the GLK a 'Chick Car,' that is the stupidest most immature thing I have ever read on here...
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I've own 2 ///M cars in my life, track every so often @ SPR, & own a W204 & X204 - so I am just as qualified to speak to the OP.
Fact of the matter is I find no big difference between the 2 automobile in the OP in the steering.
Both requires more attention for sure (pre-add-ons).
However, I am not foolish enough to list a bunch of performance add-ons that inherently make a car 6 inches off the ground vs. a taller CUV feel different & say with a broad stroke that they are truly different. No duh!
Even by ride clearance the 2 characteristics are already a tad different.
No need to have fancy add-ons & a fancy ride to say that.
The OP asked for entire C-Class segment - not just 1 specific car with a bunch of performance add-ons that could change the characteristics of the car.
Heck if I added wider tires on the GLK or C, I would get a different feel immediately.
If you're not driving at 9/10's - then what is there to explore at the limits?
Who drives at 9/10's on the public roads?
Get a Black Series AMG C & then I can say 9/10's is where I want to spend most of my time.
Sometime, people just want to show off for nothing.
Fact of the matter is I find no big difference between the 2 automobile in the OP in the steering.
Both requires more attention for sure (pre-add-ons).
However, I am not foolish enough to list a bunch of performance add-ons that inherently make a car 6 inches off the ground vs. a taller CUV feel different & say with a broad stroke that they are truly different. No duh!
Even by ride clearance the 2 characteristics are already a tad different.
No need to have fancy add-ons & a fancy ride to say that.
The OP asked for entire C-Class segment - not just 1 specific car with a bunch of performance add-ons that could change the characteristics of the car.
Heck if I added wider tires on the GLK or C, I would get a different feel immediately.
If you're not driving at 9/10's - then what is there to explore at the limits?
Who drives at 9/10's on the public roads?
Get a Black Series AMG C & then I can say 9/10's is where I want to spend most of my time.
Sometime, people just want to show off for nothing.
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