Transfer case at 56K miles?
Two weeks ago I started getting some hiccups when accelerating at low RPMs (starting around 18mph), and noticed that the tachometer would dance up and down a bit... utoh. Thought it could've been an engine misfire or spark plugs, but no CEL.
The next day the shudder turning came back, and the day after it was back with a vengeance... felt like the back was going to fall out just from normal turns during driving. I did my research and discovered all the issues with the transfer case and the 722.9 transmission.
Brought it to an indie Mercedes mechanic, and prepared for the worst. He changed the transfer case, front, and rear diff oil to start and there was instant relief. Not back to driving as well and smooth as it was this summer, but back to what it was like last winter.
I've ready people who have had some success with just a fluid change, people who temporary relief, and those who had to end up getting a transfer case replacement. I wanted to see if those with GLKs have had any updates on their experience with the TC, and what advice people may have for this situation. Is the shudder itself dangerous, or just a sign of worse things to come? Or will I be able to get away with things as they are now, and just have to deal with the vibration (which I can live with)?
We're considering selling it while we still can and getting something with cheaper maintenance. It'd be a shame, though, as I do love the GLK. Thoughts?
For everyone else, you need to check your transmission for leakage periodically. I don’t have any issues with my 2013 as of yet. I have already done the fluid change and continue to watch for any leaks. The moment it starts to shudder, I’m trading it in. It’s a losing battle if you attempt to fix it.
Are you contemplating a complete tranny rebuild? Has your indie checked the front diff U-joint connecting point to the transfer case itself? Those joints can go bad causing the shuddering and also can grenade the TC itself.
I've had the fluids in my tranny, diffs and TC replaced at 60K miles just to be safe, but there's no guarantee that a component won't fail at some point. That's the nature of mechanical beasts I guess.
OP: I agree with VHN: you are likely looking at ticking time bomb scenario. Deal with it sooner rather than later, because it will be an expensive pain one way or the other. Maybe just cut your losses and move on.
make sure you check your transmission for leaks periodically!!
Good advice to check it periodically. I wonder how often it gets checked, what with most oil changes being done top-side these days.
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Each of these two shaft goes into another differential, the front differential has the two front (drivers and passengers side shafts) connected to it.
If it is truly the front passenger side shaft, then the leak is in the front differential, quite easy to add oil, use synthetic 75W90 oil, to top it off. The correct level is when it just starts overflowing out of the fill plug. if you have never changed the differential oil, this is as good a time as any, open th efill plug first...then the drain plug, close drain plug, and refill.
The transfer case is bathed in the same fluid as the transmission. Checking the level should be as easy as looking at the dipstick
Wait....did those dips*** forget to design in a dipstick ?????? so only the dealer can check the level and add fluid if needed???? that really sucks.For the not so faint of heart, and more experienced.....raise the car up two feet, keeping it level. Start the engine and let the transmission warm up to 140F (use a good code scanner or shine a temperature scanner on the bottom pan) . While the engine is running, remove the drain plug. If fluid trickles out, the level is correct.....if no fluid trickling...pump in a bit of fluid until it does...
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Each of these two shaft goes into another differential, the front differential has the two front (drivers and passengers side shafts) connected to it.
If it is truly the front passenger side shaft, then the leak is in the front differential, quite easy to add oil, use synthetic 75W90 oil, to top it off. The correct level is when it just starts overflowing out of the fill plug. if you have never changed the differential oil, this is as good a time as any, open th efill plug first...then the drain plug, close drain plug, and refill.
The transfer case is bathed in the same fluid as the transmission. Checking the level should be as easy as looking at the dipstick
Wait....did those dips*** forget to design in a dipstick ?????? so only the dealer can check the level and add fluid if needed???? that really sucks.For the not so faint of heart, and more experienced.....raise the car up two feet, keeping it level. Start the engine and let the transmission warm up to 140F (use a good code scanner or shine a temperature scanner on the bottom pan) . While the engine is running, remove the drain plug. If fluid trickles out, the level is correct.....if no fluid trickling...pump in a bit of fluid until it does...
i had my transmission fluid and filter replaced last year along with the oil pan, gasket and bolts. It was leaking a bit prior to that because another shop botched the service.
You are right! It is in the fact the passenger side front axle shaft seal that is leaking. I see dark crud around it. Not a lot, but it seems like it’s sweating. There hasn’t been any drops on the plastic underbody cover or the garage floor. The shop will be fixing it this Thursday in the tune of $470. The seal itself is $42.
i had my transmission fluid and filter replaced last year along with the oil pan, gasket and bolts. It was leaking a bit prior to that because another shop botched the service.
Also, it's not fully correct: TC is not fused to tranny. In fact the seal between TC case and tranny case is what leaks.
Also, it's not fully correct: TC is not fused to tranny. In fact the seal between TC case and tranny case is what leaks.
If you prefer to be proactive, go ahead and change the seal...it it is a very small amount of crud....you have some time on your side.
I’m not sure how to explain it. But it’s not the CV boot leaking. It’s leaking from where the shaft comes out to the CV joint. It’s very minor since nothing is dripping and hasn’t dripped ever. It’s just a collection of crud within the vicinity of the shaft. A light lining of black stuff. The other side looks fine. I did have a wheel bearing replaced on the side that is leaking. Could that have played a role in weakening the already old seal? The mechanic said it was the front differential passenger side seal that is leaking a bit. He said it should be fixed within 6 months since it could get worse and the seal can potentially fail.
EDIT: I re-read above, sounds like it's coming form the front dif. But are are you talking about "crud" on diff or the axle? I'm not sure how you can see anything on the axle.
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Two weeks ago I started getting some hiccups when accelerating at low RPMs (starting around 18mph), and noticed that the tachometer would dance up and down a bit... utoh. Thought it could've been an engine misfire or spark plugs, but no CEL.
The next day the shudder turning came back, and the day after it was back with a vengeance... felt like the back was going to fall out just from normal turns during driving. I did my research and discovered all the issues with the transfer case and the 722.9 transmission.
Brought it to an indie Mercedes mechanic, and prepared for the worst. He changed the transfer case, front, and rear diff oil to start and there was instant relief. Not back to driving as well and smooth as it was this summer, but back to what it was like last winter.
I've ready people who have had some success with just a fluid change, people who temporary relief, and those who had to end up getting a transfer case replacement. I wanted to see if those with GLKs have had any updates on their experience with the TC, and what advice people may have for this situation. Is the shudder itself dangerous, or just a sign of worse things to come? Or will I be able to get away with things as they are now, and just have to deal with the vibration (which I can live with)?
We're considering selling it while we still can and getting something with cheaper maintenance. It'd be a shame, though, as I do love the GLK. Thoughts?
I took the car in for service today. They said they've seen this issue before, and it's not unique to the GLK / C-class. Apparently they see it with BMW's too. Specifically, the "hiccups when accelerating" issue is related to the torque converter. They preformed a transmission flush, and reset the transmission computer. Something to do with it self calibrating and re-learning. Maybe over time, with old fluid, it's gets its wires crossed. The "shuddering when turning" issue is another issue and related to the transfer case. They have reset procedure for this as well which, from what was told, involves driving around in circles a few times lol.
I took the car in for service today. They said they've seen this issue before, and it's not unique to the GLK / C-class. Apparently they see it with BMW's too. Specifically, the "hiccups when accelerating" issue is related to the torque converter. They preformed a transmission flush, and reset the transmission computer. Something to do with it self calibrating and re-learning. Maybe over time, with old fluid, it's gets its wires crossed. The "shuddering when turning" issue is another issue and related to the transfer case. They have reset procedure for this as well which, from what was told, involves driving around in circles a few times lol.
Having the same issues with a shudder when accelerating and a shudder when turning on one side only. Any updates on your side, did the dealers fixes work and can you confirm what was done? Thanks
Issue 1 - shuddering when accelerating - as mentioned this was apparently caused by old transmission fluid. My indie mechanic preformed a transmission flush which so far has fixed the issue.
Issue 2 - vibrations when turning - a fix was attempted by my indie mechanic where he drove around in figure 8's in a parking lot. This was enough to fix the issue long enough for me to drive home. The issue came back fairly quickly. They quoted a new planetary housing (~$1000).
I figured I'd try taking it by the dealer as I heard some owners were getting their transmission replaced out of warranty. The service manager knew exactly what the issue was, guess its quite common
. He quoted me about $75 for the repair. Whaaaat. He mentioned the issue was related to the clutch plates in the transfer case binding together over time. His fix was to take the car on the hoist, manually block off 3 wheels at a time, and let the transfer case send power to each corner. This opens up the clutch plates and let's the fluid get in there un-binding them. It's been about 2 weeks now and the issues hasn't come back. I'm guessing I'll have to preform this procedure at the next 60k mile interval.
First I cannot get over a $75 labor job at the Stealership haha! That's encouraging news, thanks so much for taking the time to respond so quickly, there is hope for me, was literally thinking I cannot invest a new tranny in the car and should just sell it off for cheap. I will flush out my transmission, replace the oil, filter and gasket and hopefully this takes the shuddering away as it did with yours. Cannot thank you enough I was scared to dump anymore $ into the car with either a new torque converter or new tranny. Will at least try your solution with confidence, even if it doesn't work it's now worth a shot before that big $ fix.
Thanks again,
First I cannot get over a $75 labor job at the Stealership haha! That's encouraging news, thanks so much for taking the time to respond so quickly, there is hope for me, was literally thinking I cannot invest a new tranny in the car and should just sell it off for cheap. I will flush out my transmission, replace the oil, filter and gasket and hopefully this takes the shuddering away as it did with yours. Cannot thank you enough I was scared to dump anymore $ into the car with either a new torque converter or new tranny. Will at least try your solution with confidence, even if it doesn't work it's now worth a shot before that big $ fix.
Thanks again,
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