Diesel
#2
Super Member
That whole VW diesel mess came about just as the GLS was released so there was a stop/hold put on all of the GLS350 vehicles still at the factory and on the dealer's lots. There possibly may have been a handful already delivered to customers but I haven't seen any. My local dealer had 2 en route to them and even showed on their website but those were taken back by MBUSA.
#3
MBWorld Fanatic!
The US Feds got really amped up over the VW thing - and in tracking back - the German car companies intra-company in developing sensible tech for diesel are construed by some US and Euro government agencies as "price fixing"..
Daimler has come forward with FULL disclosure - and the EU has already granted MB "immunity" if anything comes up in Euro adjudged "price fixing"
The US Fed's won't grant immunity in return for full disclosure - so MB diesels form the US will go bye-bye until more is known about the US Fed direction on diesel
Daimler has come forward with FULL disclosure - and the EU has already granted MB "immunity" if anything comes up in Euro adjudged "price fixing"
The US Fed's won't grant immunity in return for full disclosure - so MB diesels form the US will go bye-bye until more is known about the US Fed direction on diesel
#4
Member
I just returned a 2016 GL350 - I don't think we'll see any more of them, unfortunately, due to the mess with the EPA/Feds. The rare late model CPO is out there if you want one. Dang shame, diesel in the GL was a great application. Wasn't "fast" but plenty of grunt and great mileage compared to gassers.
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#8
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We have the opposite issue in Europe... Almost impossible to find a gasser, unless you are ready to spend 4 months in line for a custom order. All the GLS are diesel in here.
#9
Member
I wouldn't want a gasser in Europe, the 550 gets 14/18 miles per gallon. With gasoline relatively cheap in the US vs Europe those numbers are tolerable. But next time gas hits $4 US, and it will, everyone will be scrambling to sell them, again
#10
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After paying 100k plus on a car, 20 extra bucks a tank is a non issue. In Germany it costs almost $200k which makes gas an afterthought. In this type of vehicle consumption is commesurate with capability. A 550 with 7 passengers gives better gas efficiency overall than a Prius with 2 ( per passenger ) !!!
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#11
Member
After paying 100k plus on a car, 20 extra bucks a tank is a non issue. In Germany it costs almost $200k which makes gas an afterthought. In this type of vehicle consumption is commesurate with capability. A 550 with 7 passengers gives better gas efficiency overall than a Prius with 2 ( per passenger ) !!!
#12
MBWorld Fanatic!
Man I don't know if that maths out . $20 more a tank but 2x the mileage. I could nurse 28 on the highway out of our GL350, fully laden. If I'm in Germany right now that's ~$6.00 a gallon. Maybe $200k car owners don't care, come to think of it I don't either anymore but maybe that's because Premium is still < $3.00 gallon here?
#13
I just turned in my 2014 GL350 that would get 30 mpg if you treated it right. My new GLS450 gets 22 mpg under the same conditions. The new 9 speed tranny is way better than the old 7 speed for smoothness, no banging down in to lower gears, and apparently better fuel mileage. And boy does it ever take off, even in comfort mode. Premium gas is just 5 cents more than Diesel today here in Texas. Yet I still miss the diesel's personality.
#14
Senior Member
I just turned in my 2014 GL350 that would get 30 mpg if you treated it right. My new GLS450 gets 22 mpg under the same conditions. The new 9 speed tranny is way better than the old 7 speed for smoothness, no banging down in to lower gears, and apparently better fuel mileage. And boy does it ever take off, even in comfort mode. Premium gas is just 5 cents more than Diesel today here in Texas. Yet I still miss the diesel's personality.