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Old Dec 20, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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Navigation / compass is off

So my 2017 GLS450 shows the vehicle location about 150 miles west of where it should be and the compass is roughly 180deg off. What's the diagnostic procedure on this?
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Old Dec 31, 2024 | 10:09 AM
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Maybe I could put it another way. How do you reset the navigation system/gps unit if there is such a thing?
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Old Aug 26, 2025 | 12:33 PM
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Any ideas where to start to diagnose this?
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Most likely cause is that your GPS antenna died or the wiring to it is faulty. I forgot exactly where this is in the old COMAND system, but somewhere under the position details in the navigation area you can see the number of satellites that it has a fix on. It'll likely say zero in your car. You need a fix on at least 3 satellites and 4 for altitude. If it doesn't have a fix on enough satellites, then the navigation relies on other sensors in the car such as wheel speed, steering angle etc. to approximate your current position based on how far and in what directions you've been traveling since the last known GPS fix. Over time this algorithm drifts off, unless it gets a periodic correction from a satellite fix, so the longer it goes on without receiving any position data from the satellites, the farther your current position drifts off from the actual position. There's nothing to reset. You gonna have to get your GPS reception fixed. Once you get a good fix on enough satellites again, it will correct your position and direction of travel.

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This is what Google AI says about where you can see the satellite count.




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Old Aug 26, 2025 | 02:37 PM
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Thanks for the replies.
I've seen a number of posts for where the GPS antenna is located in the 2017GLS450. It's in the shark, correct?
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Old Aug 26, 2025 | 07:54 PM
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Thanks for the replies.
I've seen a number of posts for where the GPS antenna is located in the 2017GLS450. It's in the shark, correct?
Yes, the shark fin is the GPS antenna. MB got rid of the shark fin in later models for a cleaner look and integrated it into the driver side mirror if I remember correctly. You may have noticed that newer MBs don't have any ugly antennas sticking up as opposed to many of the competitors still having the ugly shark fin on the roof. The problem with the shark fin is also that the seal can start leaking and water gets into it. Besides the antenna going bust then you also have a leak in the roof, which is no fun. Some people have also caught their garage door with it and partly ripped it out. All in all, the shark fin was a bad and lazy idea.

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Old Aug 28, 2025 | 03:28 PM
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Suspicion confirmed. Only one satellite locked.
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That would do it. Sounds like your antenna is not completely busted, but it has failed to the point where it can't track multiple satellites anymore. Other possibilities are interference or natural obstructions where you live that prevent it from seeing more satellites.
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That would do it. Sounds like your antenna is not completely busted, but it has failed to the point where it can't track multiple satellites anymore. Other possibilities are interference or natural obstructions where you live that prevent it from seeing more satellites.
Is it reasonable to get into the headliner and replace that thing? I can't find any procedures online about going about it. Has anyone replaced one of these antennas?
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Is it reasonable to get into the headliner and replace that thing? I can't find any procedures online about going about it. Has anyone replaced one of these antennas?
I haven't replaced one, but I've come across others who had to do it on non-Mercedes models and it involves taking off the entire headliner so you can get to it. Once the headliner is off, they are relatively easy to replace. They are screwed down from below.
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Hopefully the attachments will either help or convince you to have someone else do it. You apparently do not have to remove the headliner.

That said, the antenna doesn't know if it is receiving five satellites or just one. Have you tried a different location?
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Hopefully the attachments will either help or convince you to have someone else do it. You apparently do not have to remove the headliner.

That said, the antenna doesn't know if it is receiving five satellites or just one. Have you tried a different location?
John, appreciate the shop docs. Would you mind restating your last sentence above, I don't quite follow. Appreciate the reply.
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If the antenna can receive one satellite it should be able to receive 5. There's no difference.
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Originally Posted by John CC
If the antenna can receive one satellite it should be able to receive 5. There's no difference.
That's not true. Antennas can degrade due to corrosion, oxidation etc. causing resistance and such to change, then over time they fail to tune in to certain frequencies. There are three frequencies that GPS satellites transmit on, L1, L2 and L5 depending on the age of the satellites. Some transmit in all three, others not. So the antenna could still be receiving a signal on one frequency, but not the others. L5 is the newest, and older GPS antenna can't even receive it. Old antennas can also get noisy, so the signal gets lost in the noise to signal ratio. Can happen to all antennas. For example my 20 year old garage door opener doesn't receive the Homelink signal from as far away as it used to. I have to be fairly close for it to receive it. That's due to the aging antenna and circuitry behind it.


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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I doubt that is what is happening here. For one thing, the antenna itself is not exposed to the elements, Secondly, if it was a band related issue, I would expect inconsistent results whereas he's reporting consistence, which to me points to something farther down the logic line.

That said, in my experience in the aviation industry, I've never encountered a situation where a GPS antenna that had to be replaced for poor performance. They either worked or they didn't. (Usually they were physically damaged.)

Then again, I could be wrong...

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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I doubt that is what is happening here. For one thing, the antenna itself is not exposed to the elements, Secondly, if it was a band related issue, I would expect inconsistent results whereas he's reporting consistence, which to me points to something farther down the logic line.

That said, in my experience in the aviation industry, I've never encountered a situation where a GPS antenna that had to be replaced for poor performance. They either worked or they didn't. (Usually they were physically damaged.)

Then again, I could be wrong...
As I said earlier, the shark fins being on the roof can potentially have leaks and let water in, so they can be exposed to the elements. There's a seal that's supposed to prevent that, but as with every seal, as they age, they can start leaking.
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