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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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Looking good for a little help here. I took the GLS550 to the shop for what I thought was a wheel bearing. After diagnosing the issue they said the noise was coming from my differential and that they do not do this service. The noise is almost like a road whine.

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Without much further diagnosis, Is it worth changing the fluid to see if the issue resolves itself?

If I do the fluid change, what is the part number for the drain plugs?

Is the fluid change as simple as
Unscrewing the top plug
Unscrewing the bottom plug
Draining and refilling
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 12:17 PM
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Is it worth changing the fluid to see if the issue resolves itself?
No, it's not whining because the fluid is worn out, but, you might learn something from the fluid you drain out.
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwhitty
Looking good for a little help here. I took the GLS550 to the shop for what I thought was a wheel bearing. After diagnosing the issue they said the noise was coming from my differential and that they do not do this service. The noise is almost like a road whine.

Questions:
Without much further diagnosis, Is it worth changing the fluid to see if the issue resolves itself?

If I do the fluid change, what is the part number for the drain plugs?

Is the fluid change as simple as
Unscrewing the top plug
Unscrewing the bottom plug
Draining and refilling
Considering the cost to replace the axle, changing the fluid is easy and low cost, therefore is worth doing as a diagnostic step.

It's an easy procedure.

Remove fill plug
Remove drain plug
Capture old fluid
Install new drain plug, p/n A1643310056, torque 35Nm
Fill new fluid using Motive tool or equivalent
Install new fill plug, p/n A1643310056, torque 35Nm

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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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No, it's not whining because the fluid is worn out, but, you might learn something from the fluid you drain out.
yeah, that was was I was thinking but didn't want to come to the conclusion of needing a rebuild or new install. I will call my Indy shop Monday and see when I can get it in or at least get a quote. Any guesses on pricing?
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 04:54 PM
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Any guesses on pricing?
Not really. Sometimes all you need is a few bearings. To replace the whole thing, in Mercedes Bucks, I can only imagine.
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Old Apr 20, 2025 | 10:25 PM
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How many miles on the car? can you describe more on the road whine in detail?
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Old Apr 20, 2025 | 11:27 PM
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How many miles on the car? can you describe more on the road whine in detail?
It almost feels like you are driving on a rough road with road noise, like a drone sound on the interior. You can also feel it in the pedal.

I did get the car into another shop this past week. I dropped it off at 8am and got a text that they needed me back at the shop at noon. When I came back, the owner/lead tech said he has never seen an issue like this. He said that my front and rear diff's were shot. He had me listen with his stethoscope so that I could hear the grinding. 2 remanufactured diff's with 4yr warranty is going to cost roughly $8500.

I have had the car in the garage trying to figure out next steps. I am half temped to try the replacement myself, but I can't seem to find any good tutorials.


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Originally Posted by Pwhitty
It almost feels like you are driving on a rough road with road noise, like a drone sound on the interior. You can also feel it in the pedal.

I did get the car into another shop this past week. I dropped it off at 8am and got a text that they needed me back at the shop at noon. When I came back, the owner/lead tech said he has never seen an issue like this. He said that my front and rear diff's were shot. He had me listen with his stethoscope so that I could hear the grinding. 2 remanufactured diff's with 4yr warranty is going to cost roughly $8500.

I have had the car in the garage trying to figure out next steps. I am half temped to try the replacement myself, but I can't seem to find any good tutorials.
Yikes... Both are shot.
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Old Apr 21, 2025 | 07:05 AM
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Do you tow a lot, original owner? What type of driving do you do? What type of roads are the vehicle driven on? Vehicle gets stuck often?
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Any aggressive driving? 0-60 runs?
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Thing to know....we had a TOTAL service done on ours. After the service the diff rear seal is leaking a drip (here and there, so the story goes). The fix? Easy, the part...under $5.00....the "Special Tool" required to press in the gasket was like $300 and the labor is way outta hand.


Thankfully my shop/mechanic are also friends......the commenters about changing the fluid first? I agree with them 100%. It is a cheap and easy experiment.
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Thing to know....we had a TOTAL service done on ours. After the service the diff rear seal is leaking a drip (here and there, so the story goes). The fix? Easy, the part...under $5.00....the "Special Tool" required to press in the gasket was like $300 and the labor is way outta hand.

the funny thing is, is that I have 0 leaks. From the exterior, everything looks good.



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I had zero leaks before the service......
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Old Apr 21, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Any aggressive driving? 0-60 runs?
Nope, not by me at least. Indid pick up the vehicle with 72k on the odometer though.
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Any aggressive driving? 0-60 runs?
Nope, not by me at least. Indid pick up the vehicle with 72k on the odometer though.
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Nope, not by me at least. Indid pick up the vehicle with 72k on the odometer though.
I see so used vehicle, will not know what the vehicle been through prior to you buying it.
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I see so used vehicle, will not know what the vehicle been through prior to you buying it.
yep. The carfax came back good and had a good history of service over the years. That and it appeared to be pretty well maintained.
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yep. The carfax came back good and had a good history of service over the years. That and it appeared to be pretty well maintained.
Carfax won't tell you the previous driver's driving style and how much they tow.
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Carfax won't tell you the previous driver's driving style and how much they tow.
I agree 100%.
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I agree 100%.
Either way, hope things work out for you OP, it is otherwise a great vehicle.
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