2020 GLS X167 News




A month after I made my order with the dealer in April I got a PO number for my GLS580. Dealer told me he had to wait to see if he would have allocation for it. That was back in May but production dates have moved 4 times since then from mid Aug. to Nov. It is a Canadian spec. GLS580 and the only option added is 22 inch wheels which Mercedes forced on us last week due to no 21 inch available. This last production date change was last week, now it is Nov. 21.
What are my odds of getting it produced before the end of Nov.?




For those member's who have been working with their dealers and have a 580 on order - you get it. The current production plan - shows the factory making more GLS580's in December than November - and that is bulls*t because no factory has ever produced more vehicles in December - November and May are the two peak production month's.
We have member's who are thinking about 580's who haven't talked to a dealer yet at all - that think they will be able to walk-in/email-in/call-in to their dealer and order a GLS580 for delivery before Christmas - and I just want to get the point across - that ain't going to happen that way for those people.
Just looking to help ... received 6 2020 GLS450's Friday - and I had sold and delivered 3 of those before lunch - THAT'S how strong the new 2020 GLS is - awesome !




For those member's who have been working with their dealers and have a 580 on order - you get it. The current production plan - shows the factory making more GLS580's in December than November - and that is bulls*t because no factory has ever produced more vehicles in December - November and May are the two peak production month's.
We have member's who are thinking about 580's who haven't talked to a dealer yet at all - that think they will be able to walk-in/email-in/call-in to their dealer and order a GLS580 for delivery before Christmas - and I just want to get the point across - that ain't going to happen that way for those people.
Just looking to help ... received 6 2020 GLS450's Friday - and I had sold and delivered 3 of those before lunch - THAT'S how strong the new 2020 GLS is - awesome !
Are you able to share if those 3 that sold were MSRP or were any discounts involved? Were they pretty base GLS450's or pretty loaded up? The few dealers I can find listings for all have them in the mid to upper $70k range which is pretty basic.
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Those GLS450 in the mid $70 are called Market Introduction. Factory specs cars.
Hoping they will budge from MSRP.
I asked the sales woman about the 580, she said they won't have any of those until the end of the year, and their allocations are all spoken for until next year. But they do have 450 allocations available.
first impressions - so similar to a GLE but bigger. Not massively different looking from current GLS on the exterior. A really nice vehicle all round
In in my area they are not budging from MSRP.
Maybe it’s because it’s a suv it needs to hold better in rough conditions and ware...
How was the x166 and how is it with the new GLE?
It’s awesome that you guys get to see the car and soon test drive it! Here in Sweden we maybe get the price and open order books for the 580 in October and the first diesel GLS get here some time in November...




Quick feedback from our test drive.
The car drove well and is technically day/night from the prior gen. GLS. The air suspension performed well as did the engine. Power was sufficient and the car drove well although the engine was a bit noisy when you step on it. Overall the car is technically very modern and does look much better than the old one in non-AMG trim, partially due to the 21" triple spoke rims which remind me of the old CLS/S63 AMG rims of days past.
The seats are more comfortable than expected. The car drives much better than the X7 in terms of stability/suspension. Overall I really like the exterior design, ideally in the AMG package trim but personally I think it does look better is some colors than in others. For example, Iridium Silver looks a bit bland and makes the plastic wheel arches of the GLS450 stand out more.
My main issue with the car is that it lacks any real luxury feel in the flesh. The MB-Tex turned out to actually look better than the leather interior as Mercedes is using come kind of strong, big pattern texture leather that doesn't match the rest of the MB-Tex that is used on all other surfaces. So there is a mismatch between panels, handles, console and seats
The only Nappa option will come early next year and is only the base Nappa. No special stitching or diamond patterns, just plain black with gray. Even when selecting that leather, lot of interior pieces will remain plain plastic (lower door panels, seat side panels). The dashboard leather is an option and it also appears to cover the lower dash (as I was told).
Trim: Unlike the Natural Walnut, the Natural Gray Oak looks quite fake to my eye even though it is actual wood veneer. It just doesn't strike me as good looking but at least it covers the center console pieces. This is not the case when ordering the Glossy Linden wood where the center console is just black plastic a la C-Class.
While all of these maybe launch issues, we do have a need for a SUV this winter and the GLS580 may not be here in time and even if, the interior still feels sub-standard for its price-range IMO. Nappa should be the standard leather as in the X7 with some exclusive Nappa and/or Designo option as upgrades. At least for the 580. Same with the trim. There are minimal choice at this time.
Am frustrated as the new GLS is a better car than the X7, yet I really am disappointed with the interior. We always get our cars with upgraded interiors so this is a forced step down.
For comparison, here is a X7 40i which I could grab, priced in the mid eighties...
Last edited by Wolfman; Sep 27, 2019 at 07:59 PM.




The seats are more comfortable than expected. Car drives much better than the X7. Overall I really like the exterior design, ideally in the AMG package trim but I think it looks better is some colors than others. Silver is very practical in the wintertime (here in MN) but it just looks a bit bland.
As many already complained the non AMG wheel arches look cheap and are not really paintable. My main issue is that the interior is technically sound but lacks any real luxury feel. Looking at a couple of cars I was shocked to see that MB-Tex actually looked better than the leather which has some kind of big pattern texture on it (maybe fake Buffalo skin). In short, the leather looked like crap as everything else is MB-Tex in the car which has a finer texture and doesn't match the seats.
The only Nappa option will come early next year and is only the base Nappa. No special stitching or diamond patterns, just plain black with gray. Even when selecting that leather, lot of interior pieces will remain plain plastic (lower door panels, seat side panels). The dashboard leather is an option but also appears to cover the lower dash (as I was told).
Unlike the natural Walnut, the Natural Gray Oak looks quite fake to my eye even though it is a wood veneer. Just doesn't strike me as good looking but at least it covers Center console. This is not the case when ordering the Glossy Linden wood where the center console is back plastic a la C-Class.
Nappa should be standard as in the X7 with some exclusive Nappa and/or Designo option. Same with the trim. Minimal choice here.
Am frustrated as the new GLS is a better car than the X7, I really am disappointed with the interior. We always get our cars with upgraded interiors.
I don't buy into the concept that just because the GLS is the largest SUV it needs to have the luxury options standard. The need for a certain vehicle size does not directly relate to luxury. The GLS is really just a larger GLE, not an S-Class. I think a version that comes with more luxury options standard should be offered, and maybe it will at some point. Vance has been struggling with just the base product production and now the GLB is coming on. I expect more interior options will be offered, but if you need a vehicle now that doesn't help.




I don't buy into the concept that just because the GLS is the largest SUV it needs to have the luxury options standard. The need for a certain vehicle size does not directly relate to luxury. The GLS is really just a larger GLE, not an S-Class. I think a version that comes with more luxury options standard should be offered, and maybe it will at some point. Vance has been struggling with just the base product production and now the GLB is coming on. I expect more interior options will be offered, but if you need a vehicle now that doesn't help.
When it comes to personalization, the G-Wagon is ideal. Lots of choices. Unfortunately I need the utility of more space.
Also, BMW should not be able to beat Mercedes in luxury
Last edited by Wolfman; Sep 27, 2019 at 08:40 PM.
I thought the X7 had a better ride than the GLS. Nicer interior too. I guess I am an old fart and found the user interface a bit confusing. The salesman said to just use HEY MERCEDES. We tried to turn on the heated seats by voice command and it was perfect. Then we tried to activate the vented seats with HEY MERCEDES, no go. I’ll pass.




For the rest of you, you should probably wait until the Maybach GLS comes out next year.




For the rest of you, you should probably wait until the Maybach GLS comes out next year.
SUV's are popular and many must like them. I am not one of them. I like the utility when needing to transport large items, etc. but in general find sedans and convertibles much more attractive. As such, I couldn't imagine dropping over $200k on such a vehicle. Cannot get emotional about any of these.
I don't buy into the concept that just because the GLS is the largest SUV it needs to have the luxury options standard. The need for a certain vehicle size does not directly relate to luxury. The GLS is really just a larger GLE, not an S-Class. I think a version that comes with more luxury options standard should be offered, and maybe it will at some point. Vance has been struggling with just the base product production and now the GLB is coming on. I expect more interior options will be offered, but if you need a vehicle now that doesn't help.
Thx in advance!




My concern is the mismatch of the leather and MB-Tex pattern and the overall quality of fit/stitching. This was a $92k car...




