c55 is scared why?
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actually at freeway speeds its very stable, the only thing u might not like is the steering feels a little overboosted at anything over 100, but braking is awesome and that car is just starting to pull at 100. i would say if you're looking for handling get a 350z but if you want loads of power get a gto
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GTO over 350Z any day
I'm an American Car guy at heart.
I love the sleeper effect of the GTO...some call it bland styling but I call it super sleeper...smoke you good and you won't know until its too late...perfect for grabbing a desireable lane in a merge situation from an unsuspecting driver that thinks you're a 3.1 V6, etc.
I love the sleeper effect of the GTO...some call it bland styling but I call it super sleeper...smoke you good and you won't know until its too late...perfect for grabbing a desireable lane in a merge situation from an unsuspecting driver that thinks you're a 3.1 V6, etc.
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Originally Posted by goatls2
just curious do amg's have a factory lsd?
Damn, $29K for a GTO? Bargain of the century. So for $35K you could be running with or ahead of SL/CL/S55s?
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i think that the gto can be made faster than the upper end amg's for relatively low cost. most guys that throw about 8 - 10k have some nice 11 and 10 second sleepers. some people have even brought home some high 12 second time slips with just some nitto drag radials in cooler weather. if you are really interested go test drive one and check out ls2gto.com, my local gto forum
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i think that the gto can be made faster than the upper end amg's for relatively low cost.
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Originally Posted by goatls2
i think that the gto can be made faster than the upper end amg's for relatively low cost.
After haven driven the new GTO, I would prefer the AMG at anything over 110mph. I like the acceleration and sound of the GTO, however an AMG is much more stable at speed.
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The pre-LS2 GTOs were underperformers for the the 350 ponies they received. Saw one at the track that could not break into the 13s no matter what. I am certain your LS2-equipped car has no problems getting into the low 13s routinely.
My buddy picked up a 2004 for 23K out the door when Pontiac couldn't move inventory on them. He's going to boost it and should have a quick beast for next to no $$$
What is your best time at the track in the 1/4?
My buddy picked up a 2004 for 23K out the door when Pontiac couldn't move inventory on them. He's going to boost it and should have a quick beast for next to no $$$
What is your best time at the track in the 1/4?
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I would'nt *think* (IMHO) a Monaro (GTO to you) would have a hope with a C55. I can dig up some times from Australia if you'd like.
I have a comparison with an LS1 Monaro vs CLK500 from Wheels magazine over here. Although, it has to be remembered a C55 costs 3X Monaro over here.
LS2's certainly sound good, I have driven a 2005 Holden Caprice (land yacht), but I'm not sure if it had the LS2
Anyway, the LS2 looks much nicer than the LS1, and its the last of the line (they are making the last 500 here now, so I assume its game over for the GTO also). Have fun with the car, its not hard!
I have a comparison with an LS1 Monaro vs CLK500 from Wheels magazine over here. Although, it has to be remembered a C55 costs 3X Monaro over here.
LS2's certainly sound good, I have driven a 2005 Holden Caprice (land yacht), but I'm not sure if it had the LS2
Anyway, the LS2 looks much nicer than the LS1, and its the last of the line (they are making the last 500 here now, so I assume its game over for the GTO also). Have fun with the car, its not hard!
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Originally Posted by goatls2
just thought i would let u guys now and if any stock c55's out there would like to compare let me know. im not a a-hole or anything i really love amg's to death just would never blow that kind of money on a performance car with an automatic.
Let us know the results!!!
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Originally Posted by goatls2
anyways i know not everyone likes the gto looks but it fit my budget and the performance for price was unbeatable. as far as poor american quality, well its built in australlia and the interior fit and finish is excellent. i appreciate the compliments and glad to own a nice m3 killer as well. and c55 killer (j/k)
BUT.
It's no Benz, let alone AMG Benz.. C55 is easily the slowest AMG out there sold today.. even the E55 can beat it. Go up against a CL65 or SL65, and you'll see how $170,000 of AMG move. Keep in mind the MB's probably weigh 1000lbs+ more than your car.. I think the CL65 is almost 5500lbs.. These ars aren't just fast, but they're built like German Tiger II tanks..
ALSO.. for autobahn type cruising 150mph+ for hours.. the Merc is the only solution.. or any other high end German car.
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Originally Posted by CE750
It's no Benz, let alone AMG Benz.. C55 is easily the slowest AMG out there sold today.. even the E55 can beat it.
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Originally Posted by zoink
is it on sale or something? 
:p
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Originally Posted by adx
I am not sure what you meant by even an E55 can beat it. Are you referring to beating a C55 or GTO?
I was basically saying AMG is VERY fast... let's not talk about a CL65 or SL65..
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Originally Posted by cdiken
Got my CDI for fuel economy (ie road trips) so I'm in the market for a lower cost (as in less than a Corvette) fun car.
Seems like the GTO is a good candidate, near Vette power, more with mods.
What is the high-speed stability like? I have had a lot of "fast" cars that bark like big dogs but pee like puppies when it comes to high-speed stabililty.
My lowly CDI diesel surprises the crap out of me when passing several cars at once...you really have to fly it "by the instruments" because you can easily be driving along at 115-125 and not really know it, its that stable, and that's what I need in a fast car.
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Seems like the GTO is a good candidate, near Vette power, more with mods.
What is the high-speed stability like? I have had a lot of "fast" cars that bark like big dogs but pee like puppies when it comes to high-speed stabililty.
My lowly CDI diesel surprises the crap out of me when passing several cars at once...you really have to fly it "by the instruments" because you can easily be driving along at 115-125 and not really know it, its that stable, and that's what I need in a fast car.
KB
And AMG, while Governed at 155 (this is EASILY removed) can sit in the fast lane at 200mph all day long.. they are stable as you can get for those speeds. This is why MB is know in Germany is the "King" of the autobahn.
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Originally Posted by CE750
Mean to say an E55 can beat a C55.. (most people think it's the other way around) in terms of 1/4 mile.
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I lifted this right off the AMG Website btw:
oddly they don't mention the 65's..
Go to: http://www.mbusa.com/amg/faq/index.jsp for more.
What is the fastest AMG Mercedes-Benz currently offers?
Both the E55 AMG and the SL55 AMG, with a 0 to 60 performance of 4.5 seconds, are the fastest AMG models available.
Both the E55 AMG and the SL55 AMG, with a 0 to 60 performance of 4.5 seconds, are the fastest AMG models available.
Go to: http://www.mbusa.com/amg/faq/index.jsp for more.
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Originally Posted by Chappy
C55s do not come from AMG with a supercharger. Stock, they are normally
aspirated.
E55s, on the other hand, have a supercharged V8 (stock).
The C55 and E55 comparison is bogus, IMO.
aspirated.
E55s, on the other hand, have a supercharged V8 (stock).
The C55 and E55 comparison is bogus, IMO.
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Originally Posted by CE750
This is why MB is know in Germany is the "King" of the autobahn.
Its only the last 4-5 years they have been in a postition where that could have been used. ( Since introduction of the V8 kompressor engines )
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Originally Posted by Erik
Where have you ever seen that kind of des :p cription on MB, I have read Euro mags the last 30 years and I have never seen that as a common description?
Its only the last 4-5 years they have been in a postition where that could have been used. ( Since introduction of the V8 kompressor engines )
Its only the last 4-5 years they have been in a postition where that could have been used. ( Since introduction of the V8 kompressor engines )
Also your statement about the last 5 years is quite misinformed...
Do you remember (or are you old enough to know) the 1975 450SEL 6.9? Can you tell me a faster 4-dr, 5-pax sedan back in 1975? There were FEW cars faster period, and they were all high end sports cars.
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