merc655

G55 vs C6 vette, auto. my brother and I were driving to pick up a family friend.... but a C6 rides up next to us with some pace and flips it down so we go at it and we stayed dead even from about 45- trip digits and I thought it was pretty funny. Didnt really know how fast this G55 was. :v

newton22

Wondered what the C6 owner thought after that.

ClayJ

He thought:

LOL

Thericker

Sorry to burst your bubble but it had to be a C5, you were racing not A C6

Checkout these threads the 12th post on here quotes a guy w/new G55 racing a C5 w/similar results as you reported.

Ted Baldwin has a K2 mod on his G55 and ran a 13.xxx in the 1/4 mile he bested that w/more mods to a 12.9xx

The new C6 w/400hp & 400to hits the 1/4 in 12.5 BONE STOCK or better w/good driver M6speed

The older C5 that you raced has 50 less hp & to and still pulled on the guy in the other thread..

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...g55+1%2f4+mile

AzCLS2006

I have to agree here, there is no way you raced a C6 or of you did, the driver of that C6 had no idea he was in that particular race! A stock C6 has 400 Hp / 400 Tq and only weighs 3300lbs. A 300 Hp C-5 sound more like the car you raced.....

BiTurboV12 AMG

Guys he had an auto vet. they did a moving start at 45mph. It takes a lot for the suv to get off the line but once is moving i have no doubt the vett couldnt pull away.

Thericker

Are you being obtuse on purpose or didn't you click my link to read the post by the other guy who raced one back to back taking turns in a 2005 G55 Verses 2002 C5 vette w/Auto??

Even that C5 began to pull and make up ground in that race, If it was a C6 the guy was just toying w/G55 or the C6 was broken.

It's just not gonna happen the C6 actually only weighs 3170 w/out driver

The G55 runs the 1/4 STOCK in 13.4 -13.6 how do you figure a C6 w/1/4 in 12.5 is gonna be dead even w/that?

He obviously raced the older model C5.

And yes even the C6 w/auto is getting 12.5 @ the strip it's just the guys w/stick are getting 12.5 or lower more consistantly.

merc655

ok sorry to burst everyones bubble but i just have to....

ok seeing as I have a new z06, and have a red C6 vert with a 4spd auto myself, along with a white c6 with a manual targa, I know how fast they are and what they can and cannot do and I know how to tell the difference.

i know, i know im a corvette freak

so moving on to the fact that it should have beaten me, yes i thought so too especially since 12.8s or so are possible with a 4spd auto c6 if you know what you are doing and i just think that the guy driving the C6 vert didnt really know what he was doing and wasnt exactly in prime gear or rpms maybe but he was in a low gear when he rode up next to me.

Thericker

I agree and saw your sig w/list of cars no disrespect was meant I just had to throw in my .98 cents (Obviously more than my usual .02) I have seen reports on Corvetteforum.com of 12.5 for the A4, I'm a huge fan of the car and will be buying one in a couple months or so...Have to sell one of my other vehicles 1st..

merc655

yea no problem. they are great cars, everyone will say that quality is down but for what they are, i love them.
plus its a really good time to buy one, try to get an 06 becuase you have a better steering wheel (no more doughboy) and you can get the 6spd auto if you want an auto. the z51 and magnetic ride are some cool options but best of luck to you in your future purchase.

Thericker

Cool Man you should post a pic of all those badboys lined up for us Please!!!!

merc655

well i just try to be a little conservative with it all becuase im a kid still, 18 yrs old but my dad is a car nut so we have a nice stable.

PM me if you are interested and I can give you the whole list and ill snap some photos tomorrow and put em up as long as i have my flamesuit on haha

Ted Baldwin

..........Just some clarification. The 05 stock G55 is 0-60 4.7 secs and 1/4 mile 13.2 secs. Everyone is familiar with this. Source is Mototrend April 2005.

.............here are the stats for the C6.
0-60 4.8 secs, 1/4 mile 13.2 secs. I know some folks have run faster times in the C6, but this puts things in perspective. The stock G55 is as fast as the stock C6. LINK

Ted

Thericker

I hate to differ w/ya but I'll leave your G55 alone since you own 1 and know what your talking about there but the w/C6 your totally off....

The C6 M6 does 0-60 4.1-4.2 1/4 in 12.2-12.5 or less the C6 A4 does 0-60 4.4-4.5 1/4 in 12.5-12.9 these results are all BONE STOCK, w/drag tires it would be much better..

These results are from Corvetteforum.com plenty of real world experience over there ...Magizine data as we all know varies widely and often full of BS..

Last one If the G55 is getting 13.2 STOCK why w/all your Kleemann mods can you barely break into 12.99x?? No disrespect meant just differing a bit w/ya and trying to learn a little if you have the real world data or some other sources please share...

Also I clicked that link you provided It shows the mags results using a M6 those guys obviously couldn't shift worth **** getting such a high 0-60, And look at how high the trap speed is 112mph it proves my point.

Guys over @ Vette forum are trapping 112-118 12.5-12.2 w/plenty of time slips to prove it..

Thericker

Sorry I have to do this check this link out it has 0-60 time for your 2005 G55 from Motor trend same that you used for C6..
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/merce..._gclass_g55amg

It states the 2005 G55 0-60 mph @ 5.50 seconds

I don't know where you get 4.7 seconds? How could that be anyway?

2005 S55 w/same engine but more hp, G55 469hp, S55 493, the S55 does 0-60 in 4.6

Are you telling me your G55 that weighs 5590lbs compared to S55 4200lbs is going to be just 1 tick slower to sixty than a S55 weighing 1390lbs less

I don't know man I think you got some weird data on the 0-60 at least.

Thericker

The link I posted is being stubborn, all you need to do after you click it is type in the Search box on the page "G55 Performance" it'll bring up a list of options click the 1st one and you'll see the Motor trend results I spoke of

Ted Baldwin

..........The link you posted of 5.5 secs is of the manufactrers estimate for the G55. The actual link to a road test is here. LINK . I understand your suprise. Probably the same suprise the owner of the C6 had. I hve posted a link to an actual road test showing 13.2 secs in 1/4 mile for the C6 and 13.2 secs for the G55 with the G55 being 0.1 secs faster in 0-60mph. I acknowledge that with more knowledgeable drivers, you can get the C6 to be even faster. But the results I showed you should eliminate reaction that it is not possible for the G55 to have kept up with the C6. The G55 clearly can keep up with the C6. I chose to post actual road test results to eliminate the speculation of internet racing. If you introduce such a speculation, then the G55 can be even faster to 0-60 if you race it with the diff's locked. It is just hard to explain and even harder to believe, the car is incredibly fast. Your comparion of the G55 with the S55 forgets that the G55 is faster than the S55 because the G55 it is a full time 4-wheel drive.

.......here is another link to another C6 doing 0-60 in 4.7 secs and 1/4 mile in 13.03secs. LINK . Still don't think a G55 can keep up with this car for a while?

Ted

Ted Baldwin

.......LINK

Ted

ClayJ

I think the G55 is very quick for how big and heavy it is, and even for what it looks like.

Don't know about street drags. Don't know about a G55 stock or with mods against a C5, a C6, or a DX1059 G123 ABC POS -- but I do know that the damn thing is quick, amazingly. surprisingly, impressively quick....

merc655

plus i didnt let it out, its got phenonemally lower gears than my E. 40,70,105,12X,130 is max. and the four wheel drive and the tread of the tires

Thericker

I appreciate the time you took to explain and post links, but even on this supplied link of yours the 12th post cites the C6 doing 4.1 0-60 mph 12.6 1/4

A lot of these forum posts are subjective but don't hold the same burden of proof as 1/4 time slips, which are spilling over @ corvetteforum.com where I got my info.
None The Less I agree the G55 is a force to be reckoned w/but still not going to be dead even w/properly driven C6 end of story..

I guess I'll just have to wait till I get a C6 to find out for myself, I hate arm chair racing but what else is there to do on a rainy day, Thanks for the info once again Ted...

Thericker

This last link shows something interesting, the trap speed of the G55 running 13.20 @ 103mph

The vette is clearly going to beat this, it traps consistant 112-118mph @ 12.5-12.7

The Vettes enemy is traction, and would be all over a G55 w/equally skilled drivers when hitting triple digits..

AMG_55

i think through the 1/4 a vette will pull on a g55 (same driver, conditions......)
at triple digits the vette should destroy a g55 just b/c of the drag.
i drove a g55k and after about 85-90 u can feel it slowing a little b/c of the drag

Ted Baldwin

..........you are exactly on point. In my 1/4 mile runs, at mid track, I just can't get the car to behave the same way it did when I took off. I'm glad someone has actually noticed this in person. The G55 blasts off the line in manner that is just difficult to describe. The truck will actually spin all four tires. At about 90mph, you begin to get the sense that the demons in the truck are begining to quiet down. Beyond that, the cars is fast but not as fast. It is almost as if the engineers wanted the driver to realize the limitations of the truck. Most street races however, end much before you reach that mark the opposing drivers are quite bewildered.

..........you can also get a sense of this when you compare the 0-60 time of 4.7 secs to the 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. Although not inconsistent, the 0-60 time is harder for most people who have not driven the G to believe. In my admittedly heavily modified truck, I keep trying to explain that to have reached a 1/4 mile time of 12.9 secs means that the truck is close to the 4's mark in the 0-60 time and is faster in a street race than cars that may have better 1/4 mile times. So for me to loose a street race will involve a car with sub 4sec 0-60 time and you can see how rare that is likely to be. Having said all this, the G is a terrible terrible car to street race because if there is any curve in the road you can loose control of the car. So I usually give it a short burst and leave the other car behind then I slow done.

Ted

jpog

Congrats on the kill!

JPOG