G55 v C6
01-04-2006, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........you are exactly on point. In my 1/4 mile runs, at mid track, I just can't get the car to behave the same way it did when I took off. I'm glad someone has actually noticed this in person. The G55 blasts off the line in manner that is just difficult to describe. The truck will actually spin all four tires. At about 90mph, you begin to get the sense that the demons in the truck are begining to quiet down. Beyond that, the cars is fast but not as fast. It is almost as if the engineers wanted the driver to realize the limitations of the truck. Most street races however, end much before you reach that mark the opposing drivers are quite bewildered.
..........you can also get a sense of this when you compare the 0-60 time of 4.7 secs to the 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. Although not inconsistent, the 0-60 time is harder for most people who have not driven the G to believe. In my admittedly heavily modified truck, I keep trying to explain that to have reached a 1/4 mile time of 12.9 secs means that the truck is close to the 4's mark in the 0-60 time and is faster in a street race than cars that may have better 1/4 mile times. So for me to loose a street race will involve a car with sub 4sec 0-60 time and you can see how rare that is likely to be. Having said all this, the G is a terrible terrible car to street race because if there is any curve in the road you can loose control of the car. So I usually give it a short burst and leave the other car behind then I slow done.
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..........you can also get a sense of this when you compare the 0-60 time of 4.7 secs to the 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. Although not inconsistent, the 0-60 time is harder for most people who have not driven the G to believe. In my admittedly heavily modified truck, I keep trying to explain that to have reached a 1/4 mile time of 12.9 secs means that the truck is close to the 4's mark in the 0-60 time and is faster in a street race than cars that may have better 1/4 mile times. So for me to loose a street race will involve a car with sub 4sec 0-60 time and you can see how rare that is likely to be. Having said all this, the G is a terrible terrible car to street race because if there is any curve in the road you can loose control of the car. So I usually give it a short burst and leave the other car behind then I slow done.
Ted
There's absolutely no way Mercedes is going to under rate their Manufacturers perf quote of 5.5 0-60 by almost a full second
I understand your love for the perf of this truck, but just because one magizine thru out this ridiculous 0-60 time doesn't make it GODS WORD.
Motor Trend is notorious for wrong perf data.
Put this into perspective man, Are you trying to tell us your 6,000lb k2 is faster to 60 than a SL65, or CL65,?? they blow buy Sixty in 4.2 seconds STOCK.
Your G55 when STOCK, got @ best 5.3-5.5 0-60 and now MAYBE 0-60 in 4.9...
My buddy owns a 2004 Ford F250 Diesel w/tweaked turbos, chipped etc..800hp 1100 torque! I've driven it, Yes it feels INCREDIBLY FAST, all that power down low but the damn thing isn't doing any better than 6 seconds to sixty..
I mention this because it reminds me of you thinking your G55 is hitting 4 seconds to sixty, reality is your sitting ON a CINDERBLOCK W/shi*tload of power, but it's still just a CINDERBLOCK...
I read your other post on G55 forum and you said and I quote "The G55 2005 got mid--13.50 second 1/4 mile times." That makes plenty of sense since you added the K2 mods etc.. you shaved that down to an incredible 12.98xx
But you insist on believing that 1 Motor Trend report that said STOCK G55 did the 1/4 in 13.20, to try and support the Stock G55 being dead even w/C6, which does the 1/4 in 12.30-12.80 and TRAPS 112-118 mph..You trap 103mph in your G55 seems like a no brainer Ted, just drop it...
I'll lay the ---Gauntlet Down---- when I get my C6 in the next 2-3 months I'll race your G55 w/out any mods what so ever down to the run flat tires....
Or better yet we should take this war to that stupid show "Pinks"
01-04-2006, 04:23 AM
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This I gotta see. <popcorn>
01-04-2006, 04:26 AM
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I'll invite anybody from this forum to come along and Video it, If Teds, G55 sprouts wings and a jet engine out his back side, I guess I'll eat my words
01-04-2006, 08:35 AM
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There's absolutely no way Mercedes is going to under rate their Manufacturers perf quote of 5.5 0-60 by almost a full second
..........I understand your suprise. The article by mototrend tested various cars at the same time including the cayenne Turbo. Here are the 0-60mph results 0-60 mph 5.9 4.7 5.1 6.3 . The 5.1 is the Cayenne with 1/4 mile of 13.6secs. The 4.7 secs is for the stock G55 with 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. These numbers are all consistent. Perharps AMG conspired with Mototrend to publish false test data. Did Mototrend also make a mistake for the Cayenne turbo. My K2 G55 did 1/4 mile in 13.07 secs. This adds firther credibility to the motortrend figures. I did not test my car in stock form. HERE IS THE LINK TO THE TIMESLIP. . I am not sure at this point what you are questioning. The figures are there for you to see. In a funny way, your amazement at these figures adds to the legend of the 05 G55. As far as racing you, in a way I already have...........the car I raced when I did a 12.9 was a C6 corvette. After the race, he asked if I was running NOS. Look at the timeslip closely. You can see exactly what I mean. The G55 was faster off the line up until th 1/8 mark. Infact, at 330 notice the G55 is a whopping 0.7 secs faster. What do you think is my 0-60mph time compared to the C6? At the end, he ran a 12.5 and I ran a 12.9. Does this amaze you? here is the LINK
...........I furnished enough evidence to convict OJ, and this time the glove fits. Will the jury convict?.........I doubt it, you are too suprised to believe the evidence.
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01-04-2006, 12:40 PM
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Having driven my wife's G55 with K2 and being intimately familiar with that "Brick on wheels" take-off vs any other car,this whole discussion here just puts a smile on my face.
Until you drive that Monster,you really have no idea what you are dealing with....(or what you're talking about)
Until you drive that Monster,you really have no idea what you are dealing with....(or what you're talking about)
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........it is one thing talking about c6 vs stock G55, it is another talking about whether or not mercedes underestimates the performance figures for their vehicles. I understand and even admire your passion for your upcomming car, but many people read these forums and I think the issue of whether or not mercedes underestimates vehicle performance is a settled one. Just ask anyone that has dynoed a W211 E55. Do you also think that according mercedes, a stock SL65 is a 12.6 sec 1/4 mile car?
..........I understand your suprise. The article by mototrend tested various cars at the same time including the cayenne Turbo. Here are the 0-60mph results 0-60 mph 5.9 4.7 5.1 6.3 . The 5.1 is the Cayenne with 1/4 mile of 13.6secs. The 4.7 secs is for the stock G55 with 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. These numbers are all consistent. Perharps AMG conspired with Mototrend to publish false test data. Did Mototrend also make a mistake for the Cayenne turbo. My K2 G55 did 1/4 mile in 13.07 secs. This adds firther credibility to the motortrend figures. I did not test my car in stock form. HERE IS THE LINK TO THE TIMESLIP. . I am not sure at this point what you are questioning. The figures are there for you to see. In a funny way, your amazement at these figures adds to the legend of the 05 G55. As far as racing you, in a way I already have...........the car I raced when I did a 12.9 was a C6 corvette. After the race, he asked if I was running NOS. Look at the timeslip closely. You can see exactly what I mean. The G55 was faster off the line up until th 1/8 mark. Infact, at 330 notice the G55 is a whopping 0.7 secs faster. What do you think is my 0-60mph time compared to the C6? At the end, he ran a 12.5 and I ran a 12.9. Does this amaze you? here is the LINK
...........I furnished enough evidence to convict OJ, and this time the glove fits. Will the jury convict?.........I doubt it, you are too suprised to believe the evidence.
Ted
..........I understand your suprise. The article by mototrend tested various cars at the same time including the cayenne Turbo. Here are the 0-60mph results 0-60 mph 5.9 4.7 5.1 6.3 . The 5.1 is the Cayenne with 1/4 mile of 13.6secs. The 4.7 secs is for the stock G55 with 1/4 mile time of 13.2 secs. These numbers are all consistent. Perharps AMG conspired with Mototrend to publish false test data. Did Mototrend also make a mistake for the Cayenne turbo. My K2 G55 did 1/4 mile in 13.07 secs. This adds firther credibility to the motortrend figures. I did not test my car in stock form. HERE IS THE LINK TO THE TIMESLIP. . I am not sure at this point what you are questioning. The figures are there for you to see. In a funny way, your amazement at these figures adds to the legend of the 05 G55. As far as racing you, in a way I already have...........the car I raced when I did a 12.9 was a C6 corvette. After the race, he asked if I was running NOS. Look at the timeslip closely. You can see exactly what I mean. The G55 was faster off the line up until th 1/8 mark. Infact, at 330 notice the G55 is a whopping 0.7 secs faster. What do you think is my 0-60mph time compared to the C6? At the end, he ran a 12.5 and I ran a 12.9. Does this amaze you? here is the LINK
...........I furnished enough evidence to convict OJ, and this time the glove fits. Will the jury convict?.........I doubt it, you are too suprised to believe the evidence.
Ted
)Yet still concede victory in a race?? w/admitted slower times??
Like I said the STOCK C6 is a solid performer! and even beats your heavily moded Cinderblock series G55 k2 truck, I don't understand why you keep dodging the fact we were talking about STOCK verses STOCK.
Your heavily moded truck can only best a STOCK G55 by 2-3 tenths of a second if we are to believe your "Holy Grail Motortrend data" STOCK G55 13.20 in 1/4? If I were you I'd want my money back from Kleemann
Everyone knows that in a race, each tenth of a second equates to at least 1 full car length.
So w/your modded beast, you lost to a STOCK C6 by nearly 5 full car lengths!! I would call that a pretty good **** whoppin'
Funny thing how you said "When racing your G55 to 100 mph you'd kill just about anything that wasn't a sub 4 sec car."
When your beast hits a 100 it's nearly at it's trap speed of 103 mph and as allready admitted by you the C6 STOCK would, will, blow by you..Hmmmm I :v wonder how many lengths that would be if the Cinderblock was stock w/13.50 in the 1/4, Ohhh I don't know.. can you say about 10 car lengths??
Not really a race as I suspected....Lastly yes Mercedes does under rate hp readings, But not 0-60 times by almost a full second
I as you love these cars and realize the G55 is a formidable opponent, just not against a properly driven C6
01-04-2006, 09:14 PM
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I own a 2005 C6 4 speed auto.
I ran a 12.7 at 111 mph completely stock!
I don't think your G55 could touch my C6. EVEN from a 45mph roll where my car would lug in 2nd and not be able to downshift to 1st.
Take care and see you at Moroso this Friday!
I ran a 12.7 at 111 mph completely stock!
I don't think your G55 could touch my C6. EVEN from a 45mph roll where my car would lug in 2nd and not be able to downshift to 1st.
Take care and see you at Moroso this Friday!
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........Just some clarification. The stock G55 is as fast as the stock C6.
Ted
Ted
Your
credibility has just gone down the tubes...Arguing left and right how Motortrend says the C6 runs a 13.20 (Looks like Motor trend doesn't know SQUAT!) when you full well knew all along A STOCK C6 handed you your ***, even w/thousands in Kleemann mods
I don't know why you even added this crap to this thread, only to contradict yourself w/an admitted beating by C6 w/1/4 mile times I've been quoting the whole time, and you just kept up "Oh Motortrend said this, and this...etc.."
You're the consummate Devils advocate, arguing for the fun of it w/no truth behind your quarrels...
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.......... The G55 clearly can keep up with the C6. Still don't think a G55 can keep up with this car?
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01-07-2006, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thericker55
Yeah I don't, You're kinda flip floppy ehhh?
..........below are your quotes that I was responding to.
I don't know where you get 4.7 seconds? How could that be anyway?
I don't know man I think you got some weird data on the 0-60 at least.
Man you gotta let this go, your G55 stock was No way NO how doing 4.7 sec from 0-60.
............Below is the evidence.
COMPARISON OF 0-60 AND 1/4 MILE TIES FOR CAYYENNE TURBO, G55, BMW X5, TOUREG .
G55 K2 1/4 MILE TIME
......based on the above, you can give me whatever 0-60mph time you feel is appropriate. You win.
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Maybe everyone is missing the issue here. A suv...no...a TANK that is capable of keeping up with or beating a VETTE.Who cares at what speed or situation and if it is a C5 or C6? It really does not matter. 
A tank that is capable of keeping up with or beating Chevy's Holy Grail of performance cars is a 
in the face to any vette owner.Period ( okay...that sounds harsh....more like any vette owner should respect it, not slam it)
13.2 stock in the 1/4 in a 5000 lb+ bus? Stop and think about that.
Is it me...or does that seem funny that the sled G55k ,at it's slowest,is even visible in the rear view mirror of the vette?
Besides, owning a G55k is at level that shows someone has done something right in life to get there.
my .02.....carry on.
A tank that is capable of keeping up with or beating Chevy's Holy Grail of performance cars is a in the face to any vette owner.Period ( okay...that sounds harsh....more like any vette owner should respect it, not slam it) 13.2 stock in the 1/4 in a 5000 lb+ bus? Stop and think about that.
Is it me...or does that seem funny that the sled G55k ,at it's slowest,is even visible in the rear view mirror of the vette?
Besides, owning a G55k is at level that shows someone has done something right in life to get there.
my .02.....carry on.
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Originally Posted by C32AMG
Someone is the operative term here. Most of the time it was "someone else" in the family.
Not the person making the post. Even if it is “his/her” car.
Not the person making the post. Even if it is “his/her” car.
But, you are right.1/2 of the other stuff posted @ here (or more) is bull****. (Just not Ted's
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"Someone is the operative term here. Most of the time it was "someone else" in the family.
Not the person making the post. Even if it is “his/her” car."
this statement is in fact true.
but even though it doesnt make sense that a G55 kept up with a C6 its just what happened and even though it defies logic, becuase it does, its just it.
Not the person making the post. Even if it is “his/her” car."
this statement is in fact true.
but even though it doesnt make sense that a G55 kept up with a C6 its just what happened and even though it defies logic, becuase it does, its just it.
01-10-2006, 02:32 PM
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............this is getting even more interesting. The current and future C6 owners have gone from shock to disbelief now to disinformation. At first the person that reported the race was lying, then Motortrend was lying, now those that claim they have G55's are lying and don't even own such a car.
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............this is getting even more interesting. The current and future C6 owners have gone from shock to disbelief now to disinformation. At first the person that reported the race was lying, then Motortrend was lying, now those that claim they have G55's are lying and don't even own such a car. Ted
Go get 'em Tiger! LOL
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............this is getting even more interesting. The current and future C6 owners have gone from shock to disbelief now to disinformation. At first the person that reported the race was lying, then Motortrend was lying, now those that claim they have G55's are lying and don't even own such a car.
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............this is getting even more interesting. The current and future C6 owners have gone from shock to disbelief now to disinformation. At first the person that reported the race was lying, then Motortrend was lying, now those that claim they have G55's are lying and don't even own such a car.
Ted
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What part of your BS do I need to go over again? to pound this into your head.
You Admited losing at the Drags by at least 5 lengths w/your heavily moded G55 to A STOCK C6 which ran a 12.5 and you ran a 12.998xx do the math...
A stock G55 would lose badly against a properly driven Stock C6, You know your mods gave you much more than just .2 miserable tenths of a second! Stock G55 times are @ best 13.5 end of story good night....
01-17-2006, 09:37 PM
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The only DISINFORMATION, is spewing outta your "Pie Hole" Ted.
What part of your BS do I need to go over again? to pound this into your head.
You Admited losing at the Drags by at least 5 lengths w/your heavily moded G55 to A STOCK C6 which ran a 12.5 and you ran a 12.998xx do the math...
A stock G55 would lose badly against a properly driven Stock C6, You know your mods gave you much more than just .2 miserable tenths of a second! Stock G55 times are @ best 13.5 end of story good night....
What part of your BS do I need to go over again? to pound this into your head.
You Admited losing at the Drags by at least 5 lengths w/your heavily moded G55 to A STOCK C6 which ran a 12.5 and you ran a 12.998xx do the math...
A stock G55 would lose badly against a properly driven Stock C6, You know your mods gave you much more than just .2 miserable tenths of a second! Stock G55 times are @ best 13.5 end of story good night....
..........LINK thericker55 attacking another forum member
.........LINK thericker55 attacking yet another forum member
Are you okay?
Ted
