CLK430 vs. C43
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Well to my knowledge the C43 has different cams, airbox, and exhaust (maybe headers as well). CLK430 has 275hp/295tq and the C43 has 302hp/302tq according to edmunds.com Now with the mods I have I would assume it would put me over 300hp/300tq quite easily. The ECU tuning by itself claims to bump hp to 300hp. Although renntech claims that the ECU tune as in combination with the ECU only produces 298hp/321tq. Just for fun I checked the results for the same mods (renntech airbox and ECU) on a C43 and it amazingly adds a claimed 25hp/32tq! Now I know real life results rarely produce the claimed results but I assume the other mods put me over 300. I heard that the bigger airbox does produce alot of power but all this stuff is just word of mouth until I see a dyno. Ive heard good and bad things about Eisenmann exhaust in term sof performance. I believe they claim a 10-15% increase in hp for the race version of the exhaust. I have heard stories that it actually reduces power. All I know is it sounds DAMN good! The evilsport wires and plugs just felt like it gave me slightly better esponse, not really any mor epulling power (according to the seat of my pants test). Another thing that could have given me the edge is that my front end has been lightened a little bit. Fiberglass front bumper and fenders as well as a carbon fiber hood.
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Being an American ANYTHING makes you better than a fresh off the boat something.I sure hope you're not an illegal immigrant protesting about your "right" to be here.
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Nola, this is a misunderstanding... I do apologize to blackbenz for being harsh on him because I misunderstood his demeanor.. Let's stop everything now. Can't we all just get along?
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Well to my knowledge the C43 has different cams, airbox, and exhaust (maybe headers as well). CLK430 has 275hp/295tq and the C43 has 302hp/302tq according to edmunds.com Now with the mods I have I would assume it would put me over 300hp/300tq quite easily. The ECU tuning by itself claims to bump hp to 300hp. Although renntech claims that the ECU tune as in combination with the ECU only produces 298hp/321tq. Just for fun I checked the results for the same mods (renntech airbox and ECU) on a C43 and it amazingly adds a claimed 25hp/32tq! Now I know real life results rarely produce the claimed results but I assume the other mods put me over 300. I heard that the bigger airbox does produce alot of power but all this stuff is just word of mouth until I see a dyno. Ive heard good and bad things about Eisenmann exhaust in term sof performance. I believe they claim a 10-15% increase in hp for the race version of the exhaust. I have heard stories that it actually reduces power. All I know is it sounds DAMN good! The evilsport wires and plugs just felt like it gave me slightly better esponse, not really any mor epulling power (according to the seat of my pants test). Another thing that could have given me the edge is that my front end has been lightened a little bit. Fiberglass front bumper and fenders as well as a carbon fiber hood.
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Originally Posted by XPRO.US
Nola, this is a misunderstanding... I do apologize to blackbenz for being harsh on him because I misunderstood his demeanor.. Let's stop everything now. Can't we all just get along?
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Originally Posted by FLYNAVY
sounds like you have yourself a fast CLK.....I don't doubt renntech's claims...they actually do dyno their test cars. There has been a lot of discussion on the C36/43 forum about exhaust options, and many folks seem to think the '43 won't see an improvement there. However, I believe that speedybenz may have settled on a configuration that did yield something....so anything is possible. Don't know how relevant this discussion is to the CLK430, but it is more or less the same engine. Either way, w/ chip, airbox, exhaust, and some professional engineering (experimentation, R&D) to back it up, I would suspect that you may have added something in excess of the 3-5 HP I mentioned previously....does it feel any better than stock? 321 lb of torque should feel significantly different from stock....
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This is a more derogatory and insulting comment than anything else in this thread. Consider it reported.
Why that level of arrogance? (Since when does your birthplace or your nationality automatically make you better than the next person on this planet?)
And insinuating that he is/was an illegal immigrant was totally uncalled for. Where in this thread did you find any illegal immigrant protesting his "right to be here"?
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I finally came across this thread randomly. I am the "FOB" Iranian with the C43 (except I was born and raised here). We were on Great Seneca Hwy, right? Funny how I don't remember giving you any dirty looks. I do remember letting up on the gas when you pull away though (you left that out of your story). I caught up to you later because I wanted to give you a thumbs up for a nice looking car and because I enjoyed the run. I'm sorry you got offended by that.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
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Originally Posted by azimibaha1
I finally came across this thread randomly. I am the "FOB" Iranian with the C43 (except I was born and raised here). We were on Great Seneca Hwy, right? Funny how I don't remember giving you any dirty looks. I do remember letting up on the gas when you pull away though (you left that out of your story). I caught up to you later because I wanted to give you a thumbs up for a nice looking car and because I enjoyed the run. I'm sorry you got offended by that.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
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Originally Posted by azimibaha1
I finally came across this thread randomly. I am the "FOB" Iranian with the C43 (except I was born and raised here). We were on Great Seneca Hwy, right? Funny how I don't remember giving you any dirty looks. I do remember letting up on the gas when you pull away though (you left that out of your story). I caught up to you later because I wanted to give you a thumbs up for a nice looking car and because I enjoyed the run. I'm sorry you got offended by that.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
Either way, not a big deal. You have a nice car (except for the funky hood - looks a bit honda-ish). I sold my C43 a couple weeks ago. They're nice cars, but drive very heavy and a bit slow for the amount of power they put out.
By the way, do you live in the Kentlands? There's a guy down the street from me with a nice black CLK 430.
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"Persian music BLASTING" and looking at someone's car does not equal "I want to race." I thought it would be fun to run with you, but like others have said, do you really think that your airbox and exhaust was enough to beat a C43? And I love how you are a persian guy with a "hooked up" car that has rims, hoods, exhausts, intakes, etc and I am the one who fits the "stereotype" you speak of. Not to mention the fact that your seat was reclined so far back that you were driving from your back seat and only the top of your head could be seen from outside. And lastly, neither car is really that fast anyways. The best 0-60 figure i've seen on the C43 is 5.9 sec. That is pretty slow by today's AMG and other sports car standards. So I don't think you should be so proud.
I'm just having some fun pal. It was hilarious to see this post last night and read everyone's comments. I figured I would throw in some of my thoughts. I'm not upset, nor do I care to **** you off. Hopefully, you're just having fun with this too. I think you have a nice looking car. Yes, you did BEAT me that day, but you should know that it was because I let up. Maybe I was a chicken ****, maybe I don't know how to drive an automatic.
I am currently driving my old, STOCK Honda. I work downtown and like the gas mileage (yes, I'm cheap). Don't know what the next car will be just yet, but I definetely enjoyed the C43.
I'm just having some fun pal. It was hilarious to see this post last night and read everyone's comments. I figured I would throw in some of my thoughts. I'm not upset, nor do I care to **** you off. Hopefully, you're just having fun with this too. I think you have a nice looking car. Yes, you did BEAT me that day, but you should know that it was because I let up. Maybe I was a chicken ****, maybe I don't know how to drive an automatic.
I am currently driving my old, STOCK Honda. I work downtown and like the gas mileage (yes, I'm cheap). Don't know what the next car will be just yet, but I definetely enjoyed the C43.
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Originally Posted by azimibaha1
I do remember letting up on the gas when you pull away though (you left that out of your story).
Originally Posted by azimibaha1
"Persian music BLASTING" and looking at someone's car does not equal "I want to race."
Originally Posted by azimibaha1
do you really think that your airbox and exhaust was enough to beat a C43?
Originally Posted by azimibaha1
I am the one who fits the "stereotype" you speak of. Not to mention the fact that your seat was reclined so far back that you were driving from your back seat and only the top of your head could be seen from outside.
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Just to keep this entertaining....
You're obviously upset. You made some observations about my music and the way I look at people. I made an observation about the way you sit in your car and ghetto-fy your Mercedes. Maybe this will be a lesson for you to stop making silly assumptions about others.
You're right. I look and act like a Persian. That is probably because I am one, whether I was born in the States or not. Maybe you should get a sweet decal for your car that says "Don't mistake me for a Persian." I'm sure your parents would be very proud of you. It might even give you 2-3 hp.
You beat me that day, buddy. I don't remember doing a U-turn and I don't remember getting upset about losing to you. And I def. did not go at the pedal all the way. Of course, I could be lying about all of this.
This is turning into a who can one-up the other guy on this message board. I really don't care about you, your car, your nationality, or the "race" that took place. For all I care, you are an All-American guy with the nicest CLK430 in Maryland. Good luck to you.
You're obviously upset. You made some observations about my music and the way I look at people. I made an observation about the way you sit in your car and ghetto-fy your Mercedes. Maybe this will be a lesson for you to stop making silly assumptions about others.
You're right. I look and act like a Persian. That is probably because I am one, whether I was born in the States or not. Maybe you should get a sweet decal for your car that says "Don't mistake me for a Persian." I'm sure your parents would be very proud of you. It might even give you 2-3 hp.
You beat me that day, buddy. I don't remember doing a U-turn and I don't remember getting upset about losing to you. And I def. did not go at the pedal all the way. Of course, I could be lying about all of this.
This is turning into a who can one-up the other guy on this message board. I really don't care about you, your car, your nationality, or the "race" that took place. For all I care, you are an All-American guy with the nicest CLK430 in Maryland. Good luck to you.
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You sure do talk alot online. Next time you see me please get my attention like you did last time (cuz I dont remember what you look like and wont look twice at your honda) and say some of these things to my face. You're local so we should run into each other sooner or later. I am persian but I got rid of all the aspects I didnt like in the fob culture. I am proud to be persian but am ashamed when people such as yourself give the rest of us persian americans a bad name. I dont see how my car is fob but thats your opinion and you're entitled to it. Look forward to seeing you around.
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I am not interested enough in any of the topics we've discussed to fight you or anyone (I'm probably too old as well). I honestly thought this was a fun exchange of words. You are probably a decent guy and we may even have a mutual friend or two. I apologize for offending you and hope there are no hard feelings.
I don't remember what you look like either. If you recognize me and want to say hello, you are more than welcome to do so. Have a nice day.
I don't remember what you look like either. If you recognize me and want to say hello, you are more than welcome to do so. Have a nice day.
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Well this is interesting. I think the first time I've ever seen a live response to a kill story.
Blackbenz, relax. I'd be interested to learn more about your mods, in terms of costs, who installed them, etc, as I'm interested in modest projects for 430 engine.
Blackbenz, relax. I'd be interested to learn more about your mods, in terms of costs, who installed them, etc, as I'm interested in modest projects for 430 engine.
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ok cool. Apology accepted. I organize alot of benz/euro meets in the area so let me know if you would like to participate.
Rbrenton- All the engine mods were installed by me. Not much going on under there though. I have a renntech airbox with green filters, evosport ignitiion upgrade (fancy way of saying plugs and wires), ECU tune, and Eisenmann race exhaust. The car is a little lighter due to fiberglass bumpers and fenders in addition to the carbon fiber hood. Were you at AMGfest this past weekend? I was there, the car looks different than my sig cuz the hood is partially painted and new bumpers are on it. If there are any local C43 owners I'd like to do a run and see how my car fares against a stock one. Come to think of it, I know a guy and I'll see if he wants to do a few friendly runs, maybe get it on tape for the nonbelievers.
Rbrenton- All the engine mods were installed by me. Not much going on under there though. I have a renntech airbox with green filters, evosport ignitiion upgrade (fancy way of saying plugs and wires), ECU tune, and Eisenmann race exhaust. The car is a little lighter due to fiberglass bumpers and fenders in addition to the carbon fiber hood. Were you at AMGfest this past weekend? I was there, the car looks different than my sig cuz the hood is partially painted and new bumpers are on it. If there are any local C43 owners I'd like to do a run and see how my car fares against a stock one. Come to think of it, I know a guy and I'll see if he wants to do a few friendly runs, maybe get it on tape for the nonbelievers.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
ok cool. Apology accepted. I organize alot of benz/euro meets in the area so let me know if you would like to participate.
Rbrenton- All the engine mods were installed by me. Not much going on under there though. I have a renntech airbox with green filters, evosport ignitiion upgrade (fancy way of saying plugs and wires), ECU tune, and Eisenmann race exhaust. The car is a little lighter due to fiberglass bumpers and fenders in addition to the carbon fiber hood. Were you at AMGfest this past weekend? I was there, the car looks different than my sig cuz the hood is partially painted and new bumpers are on it. If there are any local C43 owners I'd like to do a run and see how my car fares against a stock one. Come to think of it, I know a guy and I'll see if he wants to do a few friendly runs, maybe get it on tape for the nonbelievers.
Rbrenton- All the engine mods were installed by me. Not much going on under there though. I have a renntech airbox with green filters, evosport ignitiion upgrade (fancy way of saying plugs and wires), ECU tune, and Eisenmann race exhaust. The car is a little lighter due to fiberglass bumpers and fenders in addition to the carbon fiber hood. Were you at AMGfest this past weekend? I was there, the car looks different than my sig cuz the hood is partially painted and new bumpers are on it. If there are any local C43 owners I'd like to do a run and see how my car fares against a stock one. Come to think of it, I know a guy and I'll see if he wants to do a few friendly runs, maybe get it on tape for the nonbelievers.
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Originally Posted by RBrenton
I was at the AutoX event only. Maybe I did see you. How did you do the ECU tune? And what did that cost?
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I'm totally flipping out right now, a kill story on another forum member!
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I thought azimibaha handed himself rather well in the face of severe provocation.
I have a sneaky suspicion my stock M3 would prove more than a match for Blackbenz's 430, and you've got 1.3litres of displacement and a couple of extra cylinders to work on before i'm in the Maryland area (hopefully before the end of the year.)
I have a sneaky suspicion my stock M3 would prove more than a match for Blackbenz's 430, and you've got 1.3litres of displacement and a couple of extra cylinders to work on before i'm in the Maryland area (hopefully before the end of the year.)
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I thought azimibaha handed himself rather well in the face of severe provocation.
I have a sneaky suspicion my stock M3 would prove more than a match for Blackbenz's 430, and you've got 1.3litres of displacement and a couple of extra cylinders to work on before i'm in the Maryland area (hopefully before the end of the year.)
I have a sneaky suspicion my stock M3 would prove more than a match for Blackbenz's 430, and you've got 1.3litres of displacement and a couple of extra cylinders to work on before i'm in the Maryland area (hopefully before the end of the year.)
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Originally Posted by transferred
I thought azimibaha handed himself rather well in the face of severe provocation.
As a side note: Racial slurs are never a good idea, and are especially ugly on a public forum. I can only guess how many Persians or other persons who recently arrived to this country read the original post and took offense. It offended me, and I am not even a member of the group insulted.