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Old 05-11-2006, 05:10 PM
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Yo Richard I just joined the Club Black on Black 05' A4 14,000 miles, allready whipped some *** on the way home from the dealer in LA.
I'll be getting the Z51 brakes, and Andys head cam package SOON!!
SON OF A B*TCH...CONGRATS you finally joined the Brotherhood. Great choice on the color, sounds pure evil!!! I was at Andy's shop this morning, (2) C6s will be getting the blower treatment, Adrien Brody's Blk C6 is up on the rack finishing up the Vortech install.

Bro, I really think you should get the blower, you'll feel right at home since you've supercharged before, and with both setups traction will be an issue anyways but once your hooked on the ground it's a HP game! Andy likes to use ETP or AFR heads (milled to boost CR), if later down the road you want to add a blower (cuz he!!, enough is really never enough...especially HP)...those heads will have to come off, and more $$$ out of your pocket.

Most guys with a H/C setup I've talked to are thirsty for more so they add laughing gas to quench the thirst.
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SON OF A B*TCH...CONGRATS you finally joined the Brotherhood. Great choice on the color, sounds pure evil!!! I was at Andy's shop this morning, (2) C6s will be getting the blower treatment, Adrien Brody's Blk C6 is up on the rack finishing up the Vortech install.

Bro, I really think you should get the blower, you'll feel right at home since you've supercharged before, and with both setups traction will be an issue anyways but once your hooked on the ground it's a HP game! Andy likes to use ETP or AFR heads (milled to boost CR), if later down the road you want to add a blower (cuz he!!, enough is really never enough...especially HP)...those heads will have to come off, and more $$$ out of your pocket.

Most guys with a H/C setup I've talked to are thirsty for more so they add laughing gas to quench the thirst.
I allways wanted to go w/blower again but the HPS deal really got me rattled,
Constant check engine lights among other things, but if you think there aren't any problems to be had and Andy can confirm no future problems w/smog down the road when I move on to something else I'm totally game!

Lets meet up give me a call.....
Old 05-11-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
Yup, got/read the same thing you did last night. It IS N/A (albeit with H/C/I. Exhaust). Doesn't matter....its N/A!! AMAZING (and great tourque - even down low). The blown C6s have sooo much power - its too much for the street - no traction . I dunno which way I'd go (blown C6 or modded N/A Z06 - probably the modded Z06 ) GM has done a great job with the Z - just need to improve the interior a bit & it would be PERFECT IMHO (its close to perfect right now). The new Z06s are just plain bad azz - I REALLY like them .

See ya Mark - thanks for the post - you beat me to it Buddy!

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Yes Sir...traction or I should say lack of it is the enemy. I'm jumping from 285s to 325s and hope the rear end will stop sliding to the other lane so people will stop fliping me off.

How the traction on your SLK55 S7?? The RX-7s are drift kings, at the D1 Challenge they were haulin azz sideways....
Old 05-11-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownS430
I allways wanted to go w/blower again but the HPS deal really got me rattled,
Constant check engine lights among other things, but if you think there aren't any problems to be had and Andy can confirm no future problems w/smog down the road when I move on to something else I'm totally game!

Lets meet up give me a call.....
Both Andy's Vortech S-trim kit & the ProCharger P1SC carries an E.O. number, the more potent D1 is not Ca. emissions legal. Only issues I've had with the check engine light was when I had the LT headers installed and Charlie (A&A in house tuner) zapped that away. Charlie is easily accessible via cell phone or email for questions or issues with the PCM.

We can meet up at A&A, we'll have Mario come over and pay for our lunch. I'm scheduled to go back soon, most likely on a Sunday, less crowd and Mike (head-tech) occasionally works both weekend days...I'll let you know which Sunday.

Enjoy your new ride!!!
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Originally Posted by Richard023
Both Andy's Vortech S-trim kit & the ProCharger P1SC carries an E.O. number, the more potent D1 is not Ca. emissions legal. Only issues I've had with the check engine light was when I had the LT headers installed and Charlie (A&A in house tuner) zapped that away. Charlie is easily accessible via cell phone or email for questions or issues with the PCM.

We can meet up at A&A, we'll have Mario come over and pay for our lunch. I'm scheduled to go back soon, most likely on a Sunday, less crowd and Mike (head-tech) occasionally works both weekend days...I'll let you know which Sunday.

Enjoy your new ride!!!
Saahhweeet! sounds like a plan.....
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Originally Posted by merc655
To Yellow R1 and Richard,
You all just saved me a few minutes of looking at CF, and that is AWESOME! I am so glad that we can finally have civil conversations regarding Vettes. The new Z is awesome isn't it? I think it is absolutely perfect stock, but I am putting some headers on next week because I have been meaning to for a while. But wow, with that cam and pump, I must just have to be putting down some crazy numbers by the end of summer....

^This is why I love this forum.
Merc655...Congrats on your C6Z You made an AWESOME choice!!! Go with the LGM headers, John Page of LPE dyno tested the LGs vs Kooks and the LGs came on top...a whopping extra 50 lbs of low end TQ at the wheels, hell let me see if I can find the dyno chart....

Okay...here's the link to the thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1330371

Keep us posted with your modding progress!
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Originally Posted by Richard023
Yes Sir...traction or I should say lack of it is the enemy. I'm jumping from 285s to 325s and hope the rear end will stop sliding to the other lane so people will stop fliping me off.

How the traction on your SLK55 S7?? The RX-7s are drift kings, at the D1 Challenge they were haulin azz sideways....
No traction below 75 mph on the S7 when nailed. But hey, I'm going from 245 stockers to a whopping 265 width (obviously, the tires will continue to get roasted, but hey, I've got limited ESP when its turned off so it maximizes traction better than my right foot ). I need 325s but the car would look like azz. Its just not a drag car - its my wife's vert - its just got some extra oomph. See ya Richard!

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How would a Renntech SL600 far against the Z06?

9 times out of 10 you should take one in the 1/4. You have the advantage with the auto and the Z needs a perfect launch which is very tough. Both cars are very close though, high 11's.
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Originally Posted by Richard023
We can meet up at A&A, we'll have Mario come over and pay for our lunch.
Really? I was never told about this. Ok I will pay but I want to drive both of your cars. I will call Ole to see when his car will be done.
Congrats Sean on the headache free new C6,
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what do you guys think of E55 w211 Kleemann stage 2 vs stock c6 z06?
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Really? I was never told about this. Ok I will pay but I want to drive both of your cars. I will call Ole to see when his car will be done.
Congrats Sean on the headache free new C6,
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Thanks Mario.

You know what's funny? I could've bought a Yugo and would still be happier than I was, It's insane how much better I feel to have that HPS paperweight off my back.
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Originally Posted by StephenK
How would a Renntech SL600 far against the Z06?
I think the SL 600 Bi Turbo stands a very good chance. Supposedly, if you take off correctly with minimal wheel spin (hard thing to do but supposedly it's possible), you can get a 0-60 time of around 3.6 seconds.

The Corvette is fast, it's actually faster than a Ferrari in the straight line. They handle fairly well as well, but it's not comparable to an SL on a nice mountain road.
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But over all Mercs are more stylish than corvettes...
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9 times out of 10 you should take one in the 1/4. You have the advantage with the auto and the Z needs a perfect launch which is very tough. Both cars are very close though, high 11's.
My 07 BLK will be here late fall, but many MD owners who have had some seat time are getting into low 11's on stock runflats at Capitol. With DR's you should be in the high 10's. A stock 600 or 65 will not be able to keep up with that based on what I have seen at the track. My K2 E55 was running 11.5/11.6 at 123mph. The Z is a very sick car for the money, great performance and it looks good! So many previous Porsche and MB owners are buying the new Z (like myself having owned a 911TT Stage 2 and a E55 K2).

GM has raised the bar with this new Z. Most local dealers are still asking 10K over MSRP on any ordered 07.

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But over all Mercs are more stylish than corvettes...
Not from my view.....
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Not from my view.....

And that is not even a Z06
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Listen, the Z06 is a sweet car & I am sure plenty of us on these forums could trade our rides and pick one up tomorrow if we wanted to. That is not the point.

The point is that the vette has a N/A 7.0L V8, weighs +1000lbs less and has fat *** rear tires. Is it a hard top convertible? Will it fall apart in 3 years? Does it have the prestige of Princeton or is it more like Rutgers?

I think it is a great car, but not for me. I think for me will be the 2009 SL63 with a V8 BiTurbo making over 650 bhp!!!
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Listen, the Z06 is a sweet car & I am sure plenty of us on these forums could trade our rides and pick one up tomorrow if we wanted to. That is not the point.

The point is that the vette has a N/A 7.0L V8, weighs +1000lbs less and has fat *** rear tires. Is it a hard top convertible? Will it fall apart in 3 years? Does it have the prestige of Princeton or is it more like Rutgers?

I think it is a great car, but not for me. I think for me will be the 2009 SL63 with a V8 BiTurbo making over 650 bhp!!!

The point to it is, it is impossible to compare apples to oranges. Which one will you pick? A hot girl who gives okay sex but is an absolute head turner or an average girl who give you excellent sex but you keep her at home.
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what do you guys think of E55 w211 Kleemann stage 2 vs stock c6 z06?
I've got some Renntech action and I can hardly wait for a Z06 to come knockin'. I want to see how it runs. I have driven my friend's new Z06 and it pulls like a tractor. There's no doubt it is stupid fast but on the street, unless you know how to put the power down, I don't think many Z06's would hang from stoplight to stoplight.
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The Corvette is fast, it's actually faster than a Ferrari in the straight line. They handle fairly well as well, but it's not comparable to an SL on a nice mountain road.
The SL is a sweet car and is wicked fast but it is a horrible handling car. The Vette would smoke it in the canyons or track. The SL is a big sloppy pig (sad to say and I wish it wasn't true)
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
The SL is a sweet car and is wicked fast but it is a horrible handling car. The Vette would smoke it in the canyons or track. The SL is a big sloppy pig (sad to say and I wish it wasn't true)
Glad you said it man, I was going to but I'm sure they would've went off on me because I have a Vette now.

I don't understand why most people on this forum whole heartedly believe that Mercedes is the end all of performance cars, Just isn't so sure they've been packing them w/gobs of TO & HP especially these last few years but there still Overweight slobs period. Except for the SLK55, still though at 34-3500 lbs not really a comparison for Supercars weighing in at 3100 or less w/substantially more power..
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there is a vortech kit already out for the Z !!!
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there is a vortech kit already out for the Z !!!
First of all, SWEET collection of cars!!!

Hummm....11.0:1 CR, Siamese Cylinders, Hypereutectic Pistons; which is great for N/A, & quiet operation, but not a platform for F/I. A built bottom end would be mandatory! Read a couple of post above, you can acheive 620+rwhp on a N/A setup, I wouldn't be surprise to see LGM pull 650rwhp with proper flowing heads.

Andy of A&A Corvette has engineered the C6 Vortech kit and it's cousin; Paxton is done by East Coast Superchargers. After the ProCharger C6 Z06 grenading piston #7 ordeal, I don't see Andy or Doug of ECS installing their kits on a new C6Z unless the bottom is forged. The owner of that ProCharger has now built the bottom end and is currently at 670rwhp with some belt slippage on a 6 rib, he's now upgrading to an 8 rib setup.

Good luck with yours!
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Just checked out a Z06 and have to say that statically the car looked like a cheaper version of a 350z, in terms of shutline and paint quality, exterior fit and finish and interior quality. It also started with a `thin` sounding engine (but then i`m used to being around SLR`s) for a V8. I didnt get to drive it but the performance figures look sensational.
I think Benz and Porsche owners expect(and get) more from their cars than just raw performance.Still each to their own
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Yo Richard I just joined the Club Black on Black 05' A4 14,000 miles, allready whipped some *** on the way home from the dealer in LA.
I'll be getting the Z51 brakes, and Andys head cam package SOON!!
You're not really obligated to justify yourself here, but can I just ask: why did you get a C6 automatic?

You obviously seem to care about the performance, as you want to get brake and H/C upgrades...


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