rays cl55

Was coming to work this morning flying down the 605S. Was in the far right lane to get onto the 105W when this vette pulled up behind me. We get onto the 105W doing about 75ish and the dude high beams me so I decide to gun it. As I hit 120 this guys pulls up next to me and GONE! got to about 140 and he had to have been about 5 cars ahead of me.

Only as we pull off the freeway at our exit, I see the markings on the vette that say "Z06"....

it was fun, but damn...to early in the morning to get my *** handed to me!

FirstMB

Yeah, if it's the new one then it's 7 liters vs. 5.4 liters, plus the Z06 is about 500lbs lighter. In stock form, you don't stand a chance.

rays cl55

hahah....had to find that out the hard way. there goes $10 worth of gas.

Vomit

Was it a C6 or C5?

SL BRABUS

Just by reading your thread......I think that Z06 is modded........

newton22

Haha, not surprised. Stock C6 Z06 will take any stock 55K MB. A C5 Z06 with just a few grand of mods will match, if not beat, the C6 Z06's performance.

Vomit

Seriously? What mods?

Zlicious

A C5 Z will need a H/C/I package to match the straight line performance of a stock C6 Z06.

Richard Galing

UBNZ06'D...nice run tho.

HLG600

Looks like it's time to pay Kleemann a visit.

Vomit

Is H/C/I a "header, cam, intake package" or am I tarding out?

XPRO.US

Look on the bright side, you exit the race in style... I prefer getting in and out of the CL55 every day, more than the car that dubs "Men who over compensate by buying a corvette." Everything the guy did was an indication of the statement above.

Richard Galing

Heads/cam/intake. I would add LT headers & 3.90 or 4.10s to the equation, this would make the C5Z a worthy opponent to a C6Z at the drags.

Zlicious

It is that much quicker, eh? Have you tested out a C6 Z06? I dont see one in your sig, but i do see a bunch of other sweet a$$ cars..

TopGun32

a used modded C5 Z06 will need for than simple bolt ons to keep up with a C6 Z06.

I agree, changing the gear ratio will be a must...

As mentioned from many previous C5Z owners on this board, H/I/E and Cams do not yield 100HP and torque... to the 5.7L motor. therefore I'm not sure how these simple mods can keep up with a 7L 505hp C6 Z?

It maybe close, but unless the 5.7L is boosted, it won't be able to outgun a new C6Z.

can someone post some facts about this? I'm not much of a Corvette enthusiast, but I trully respect those cars.

Richard Galing

Thanks for the kind words.

8 C6Zs at my local Corvette Club, stock &/or with bolt ons and I've driven a few of them, the pull is not as violent as a blown car, but plenty enough for street purposes. Drove a C6Z at Spring Mountain Motorsport, best $2800 spent with any mods I've done thus far! One guy posted a 1.38 G on his HUD with MPCS tires...simply amazing on OEM suspension, the C6Z is by far a road course warrior among the exotics.

I'm a FI guy myself, my ProCharger C6 is about 160+ rear wheel greater than a stock C6Z, hardly a fair comparison....but, on a road course it's all C6Z in favor, at the drags I'll take the blower car.

Richard Galing

Z06 Bone Stock and Stock CAI/DOT legal Tires

Ranger------1.64x 60'--11.52x @ 120.21--11/04--CAI/DR ('02)
J-rod--------1.675 60'--11.596 @ 118.53--xx/xx--Zip Tie/DR ('02)
J-Rod--------1.767 60'--11.606 @ 117.95--xx/xx--ZipTie ('02)
Dr Ron-------1.68x 60'--11.62x @ 119.03--10/04--CAI/DR ('03)
eb02z06------1.671 60'-11.656 @ 117.75-10/02--CAI ('02)
Powershifter-1.xxx 60'--11.659 @ xxx.xx--xx/xx---CAI/DR
Dr.Ron-------1.711 60'--11.67x @ 119.3x--10/03--CAI ('03)
BLU BY U ----1.65x 60'--11.694 @ 116.56--12/02--CAI/DR ('02)
Robert56-----1.653 60'--11.711 @ 115.53--06/05--CAI/DR ('02)
Steve Row----1.66x 60'--11.756 @ 116.87--xx/xx-CAI/DR
Vai------------1.xxx 60'--11.781 @ xxx.xx--xx/xx---Bone Stock
J-Rod --------1.818 60'--11.783 @ 116.90--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('02)
Ranger -------1.78x 60'--11.818 @ 117.26--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('02)
Butcher-------1.77x 60'--11.82x @ 118.8x--10/01--CAI ('02)
427CPE-------1.668 60'--11.850 @ 116.42--06/05--DR
mike c.--------1.7xx 60'--11.88x @ 118.xx--10/05--Bias-ply
L98Terror-----1.702 60'--11.930 @ 113.98--10/05--CAI/DR ('03)
zular----------1.xxx 60'--11.93x @ 116.90--xx/xx--CAI
Esoteric-------1.xxx 60'--11.93x @ 119.xx--xx/xx---Bone Stock
dr.juice-------1.675 60'--11.942 @ 114.78--07/05--ET's ('03)
phantasms----1.xxx 60'--11.945 @ 117.71--xx/xx--ZipTie Mod
Z06addikt-----1.xxx 60'--11.949 @ 117.61--xx/xx--CAI/DR
Cyric----------1.747 60'--11.966 @ 116.81--10/05--CAI/DR ('03)
GMHTP--------1.90x 60'--11.97x @ 118.80--03/04-Bone Stock ('04)
COUTO1981---1.74x 60'--11.97x @ 117.97--xx/xx--DR ('03)
02 Z06 Racer -1.xxx 60'--11.99x @ 117.61--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('02)
pwrshfd-------1.866 60'--12.048 @ 115.92--12/03-Bone Stock ('02)
rbartick-------1.900 60'--12.049 @ 117.4x--11/03--CAI('02)
MVR 155------1.80x 60'--12.07x @ 114.14--10/05--CAI ('02)
UVETTA-------1.79x 60'--12.09x @ xxx.xx--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('03)
Pray----------1.9xx 60'--12.16x @ 116.31--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('02)
Nat04Z06-----1.91x 60'--12.205 @ 117.96--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('04)
Chicago Z06 --1.xxx 60'--12.20x @ 118.00--xx/xx--CAI/DR ('02)
KrisR----------1.877 60'--12.269 @ 115.38--xx/xx--DR ('02)
Mike69--------1.964 60'--12.280 @ 116.07--xx/xx--CAI ('01)
My1stZ--------2.0xx 60'--12.2xx @ 1xx.xx--xx/xx--Bone Stock ('03)

Z06 Stock Long Block and Bolt Ons (more than cai/dr)
(not sure if all should be here or stock (?), yet)

Butcher-----1.58x 60'--11.25x @ 123.7--10/04--Bolt Ons/3.90 ('03)
PaulZ06-----1.xxx 60'--11.37x @ 120.xx--xx/xx--Bolt Ons/3.73
Qksilver-----1.616 60'--11.405 @123.61-01/05-Bolt Ons/Clutch ('02)
Dr. Ron------1.694 60'--11.52 @ 118.5--10/05--cltch/LT ('03)
Roofer Dave-1.57x 60'--11.769 @ 115.96--06/04-Bolt Ons/4.10 ('03)
dhajek-------1.75x 60'--11.804 @ 118.xx--xx/xx--Bolt Ons ('02)
Chief Dave--1.70x 60'--11.82x @ 117.70--xx/xx--Bolt Ons ('01)
COUTO1981-1.86x 60'--11.93 @ 120.97--10/05--LT ('03)
enderzo6----1.75x 60'--11.984 @ 115.02--10/03--Bolt Ons? ('02)
MSiska------1.830 60'--11.98x @ 117.63--xx/xx--Bolt Ons ('02)
McRat-------1.74x 60'--11.990 @ 114.5x--10/02--Bolt Ons? ('02)
19vette91---1.782 60'--11.994 @ 115.93--09/05--LT ('02)

As you can see with just simple bolt ons, low 11s can be attained much like a stock C6Z. Add ported heads and a mild cam & FAST intake into the mix, your sure to hit the 10s. I know of only one person currently in the 10s with a C6Z, goes by the name of "Myhardtop" on Corvette Forum; 10.9 @ 130.69 - LT headers/filter/ported T-body/tune.

Tuners like Cartek, LGM, A&A Corvette and the list goes on...have done H/C/I for C5Zs running mid 10s to very low 11s. RobZ is an example of a Cartek 3x H/C C5Z @ mid 10s:
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91013

I'm glad to hear you truly respect these cars, I've always been a BIG MB fanatic and never would have thought of owning a Corvette, but for the performance value, it can't be ignored....a modded vette is a force to be wrecken with on the streets, I kinda like that feeling.

Yellow R1

Richard, great post

I ran a modded C5Z in my RX-7 & I pulled a whopping 1 car from about 50 - 125mph....pretty much dead even. The guy had it lightened to 3,000lbs (don't know how) & was putting down 390 rwhp. Other than a modded GT2 that pulled on me ever so slightly, that C5Z was the only thing to hang with my RX-7 (it was yellow like my car ).

Now the C6Z comes out making me have to get upgraded twins for my RX-7 (and of course cams for my S7 in case I run into one). Z cars are very fast indeed. Like you said, H/C/I on a C6Z will likely put down low/mid 500 rwhp (guessing). That is HUGE for a N/A street car.

See ya,
-Matt

Richard Galing

Hey Matt...thanks buddy!

Nice pull on the modded C5Z, on paper he's got the advantage...but we all know it's a driver's game on the asphalt! Also, luv your car collection.

One of my very first car was a 12A 81 RX-7 GS, simply a nice ride until Mazda released the 13B RX-7 Turbo II in '87, I purchased mine in Fall of '86. Back then very few rotary tuners; Rotary Reliability Racing & Racing Beat here in So Cal and HKS was in the midst of becoming a tuner. The 13B-REWs are great rotary cars with good potential for modding, I hope Mazda finally releases their 20B 3 rotor housing for production...Peter Farrell has done well with it. I ended my rotary blood lines in '91 and purchased a Nissan 300ZXTT.

The C6Z has surpassed 600rwhp NA...the LS7 block is simply an amazing machine.

Yellow R1

Ya know....actually, ....he got pulled by 1 car 5 times (each only by 1 car...pretty even IMO). He had no advantage as my RX7 is 350 lbs lighter at 2,650 . I was down 20 rwhp (prior to some tuning I got done...like 20 rwhp is gonna make a big differnce ).

You mentions PFS. Thats funny. I bought my RX-7 from Peter back in 2000. I've modded it further, but its a fun little car. I too wish they would release the triple rotor for normal production - don't think they want a little RX-7 aster than their GT though (Ford owns a majority stake of Mazda as you know). Ah well, such is life.

PS - I'll have to check with Lou tomorrow (I think that pull you listed is a blown motor?). I know with just cams & exhaust guys are getting 550 rwhp. Maybe the heads & intake puts it over the top. Unfreaking real if its N/A. I'll need a triple rotor install soon!

See ya Mark!
-Matt

StephenK

How would a Renntech SL600 far against the Z06?

Richard Galing

Great choice on the PFS RX-7!!! Good luck with your modding endeavors and let's keep our fingers cross that Mazda will bring back the RX-7 to life with the proper hardwares to compete with the upcoming GTRs and such.

I'm certain the C6Z is NA, I knowingly discussed it with Anthony before while I was ordering parts. But here's Lou's take of it:

"*** LG Motorsports tops 623 rwhp and 532 rwtq

Is this nice or what!

LG Cam, Headers, minor exhaust port work and EWP and some other special LGM touches!

We had to do it for all the doubters of our LG Pro Long Tube headers. These are our standard 1 3/4" LG PRo Long Tube Headers with our new G7X-4 cam and Electric Water Pump. We just finished it and did a fast tune so we will be able to smooth out the curve later. but I was so excited to reach over 600, and in fact over 620rwhp that I had to post this fast.

The low end torque never drops below 400 even at 2500 rpms and it is above 500 rwtq from 4300 to 6300rpms.

This will be my daily driver so I will give you updates as we go along. We will see if this cam is as docile as I think it is for this 7 liter engine.

Thanks to all our supporters and those of you who have never doubted our headers as a true broad power band performer.

It is area under the curve that matters, and with over 620rwhp it makes quite a bit of "Area"


Thanks
Lou Gigliotti

BTW: ProCharger C6Z is now on the road, F-1C head unit w/ forged internals, no dyno results as of yet but owner is looking to push 15-20psi = 900/1000HP...let see if his stock diff. doesn't take a dive.

Thericker

Yo Richard I just joined the Club Black on Black 05' A4 14,000 miles, allready whipped some *** on the way home from the dealer in LA.
I'll be getting the Z51 brakes, and Andys head cam package SOON!!

Yellow R1

Yup, got/read the same thing you did last night. It IS N/A (albeit with H/C/I. Exhaust). Doesn't matter....its N/A!! AMAZING (and great tourque - even down low). The blown C6s have sooo much power - its too much for the street - no traction . I dunno which way I'd go (blown C6 or modded N/A Z06 - probably the modded Z06 ) GM has done a great job with the Z - just need to improve the interior a bit & it would be PERFECT IMHO (its close to perfect right now). The new Z06s are just plain bad azz - I REALLY like them .

See ya Mark - thanks for the post - you beat me to it Buddy!

-Matt

merc655

To Yellow R1 and Richard,
You all just saved me a few minutes of looking at CF, and that is AWESOME! I am so glad that we can finally have civil conversations regarding Vettes. The new Z is awesome isn't it? I think it is absolutely perfect stock, but I am putting some headers on next week because I have been meaning to for a while. But wow, with that cam and pump, I must just have to be putting down some crazy numbers by the end of summer....

^This is why I love this forum.