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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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C32 vs RS6

Just your basic stoplight drag. 75 degrees, cloudy and very humid. I got a decent launch, but the RS6 walked me without a problem. Kind of hard to argue with 450 HP I knew I didn't have a chance, but it was fun running with a big dog for once instead of some boy-racer in a coffee-canned econobox.

I gave him the thumbs-up at the first opportunity, and got a gracious flourish in response. More people should play that way!
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Some guy just got an RS6 in my area. Soon we will meet....soon, he will DIE!!!
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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AWD, TT's and V8... good launch combo.

Believe it or not, with a Stage 1 C32, it would be a pretty good race.


Both cars can hit 12's and trap about 108 to 110. However I think the RS6 still had the edge to about 100, after that the additional weight and lack of torque (only 415lbs) for such a heavy car will hurt its chances.

The C32 with stage one, is rated at 395hp+/- with 400+/- of torque and weights atleast 500lbs less and NO AWD.

Are you in So Cal? Lately its been crazy hot with lots humidity. My car is just not performing very well. It has a dual personality that I hate. Slow under 3k rpms, and a beat about 4k...

With cooler weather and dry air, this split personality is less noticeable.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Nah, I'm in Michigan. surrounded by lakes means hot AND humid. My car is also fairly Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde right now.

Your comments on the car comparison are confirmed by my experience with the RS6. He walked away, but once we were over 80mph or so, he wasn't going anywhere - just maintaining the (significant) lead he had opened up from the start. I can't wait to finish modding my car. Perhaps I'll encounter the guy again - only to discover he modded his RS6 too




Originally Posted by TopGun32
AWD, TT's and V8... good launch combo.

Believe it or not, with a Stage 1 C32, it would be a pretty good race.


Both cars can hit 12's and trap about 108 to 110. However I think the RS6 still had the edge to about 100, after that the additional weight and lack of torque (only 415lbs) for such a heavy car will hurt its chances.

The C32 with stage one, is rated at 395hp+/- with 400+/- of torque and weights atleast 500lbs less and NO AWD.

Are you in So Cal? Lately its been crazy hot with lots humidity. My car is just not performing very well. It has a dual personality that I hate. Slow under 3k rpms, and a beat about 4k...

With cooler weather and dry air, this split personality is less noticeable.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Nah, I'm in Michigan. surrounded by lakes means hot AND humid. My car is also fairly Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde right now.

Your comments on the car comparison are confirmed by my experience with the RS6. He walked away, but once we were over 80mph or so, he wasn't going anywhere - just maintaining the (significant) lead he had opened up from the start. I can't wait to finish modding my car. Perhaps I'll encounter the guy again - only to discover he modded his RS6 too
Glad to see you two had fun. Yeah, an RS6 is already tough to beat when stock. If he even upgrades to just Stage 1 (chip), it jumps up to "515 hp and 500 lbs. ft. of torque".

http://www.stratmosphere.com/oct_a6_stage1.htm

The RS6 was my dream car during the time I had a 2.7T (twin turbo V6) at Stage 2. Soon, there will be an APR, AWE and VF S/C for my S4 for roughly $8K and claiming over 450+ hp. Here's an example...

http://www.gmpperformance.com/index....ail&PID=148043

But anyway, what kind of mods are you planning to your C32?

Edit: Never mind, I see it in your sig.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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The S6 is almost as good, less in the hp...im gonna try to take it to a track to max it maybe! give you all results when it comes!
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by deutscheramg
The S6 is almost as good, less in the hp...im gonna try to take it to a track to max it maybe! give you all results when it comes!
I'm a big Audi fan. I'd like to hear the results on your S6.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mcbaes72
I'm a big Audi fan. I'd like to hear the results on your S6.
It's all about the forthcoming RS6. I too am a big Audi fan. I debated between getting a used RS6 or the S4 when trading in my 996TT (too flash for my line of work).

The latest is the new one, expected in Europe mid to late next year will run twin turbos on the 5.2 V10 returning c.550bhp. The reason it will be turbo'd is Lamborghini don't want Audi releasing a NA version of the engine with more power than the recently revised Gallardo (513bhp). This is also the reason the S8 (444bhp) and S6 (429bhp) are detuned, though they do produce increased low down torque. This will make it very easy to chip, though when I get mine (which I'm ordering the moment Audi make that possible) I'll be keeping it completely stock, at least for a few years.

I'm assuming your wife hasn't heard anymore more from that prat at work claiming his 350 was better than her CLK55?!
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Mcbaes- What is the stage1 you are referring to and what does it involve/cost. I briefly looked into tuning options when considering a 2nd hand 03 but never saw "stage one." I was looking at the Euro tuners like Revo etc so maybe that's why. Would apppreciate some input on this.

I have a friend with a heavily tuned 03 RS6 (nearly 600bhp) and it's unreal but he changed out a lot of stuff and put some real time into it.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
It's all about the forthcoming RS6. I too am a big Audi fan. I debated between getting a used RS6 or the S4 when trading in my 996TT (too flash for my line of work).

The latest is the new one, expected in Europe mid to late next year will run twin turbos on the 5.2 V10 returning c.550bhp. The reason it will be turbo'd is Lamborghini don't want Audi releasing a NA version of the engine with more power than the recently revised Gallardo (513bhp). This is also the reason the S8 (444bhp) and S6 (429bhp) are detuned, though they do produce increased low down torque. This will make it very easy to chip, though when I get mine (which I'm ordering the moment Audi make that possible) I'll be keeping it completely stock, at least for a few years.

I'm assuming your wife hasn't heard anymore more from that prat at work claiming his 350 was better than her CLK55?!
(M3 eater, please excuse the thread hijack.)

Carl, looks like you know about the new RS6 coming out possibly next year. Yeah, I heard that, too. Since you own a B7 S4, you should visit Audiworld if you're not already a member. Here's a link to their forum...

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b7/

Here's the quote from Strat's website from the link in my other post re: RS6 Stage 1 (ECU chip):
"Stratmosphere and O.CT were the first to introduce RS6 tuning to North America. With signature O.CT smooth and massive torque, your RS6 actually goes to another level (if that's possible!). Is it great? The editors at AudiWorld thought so. Check out this link to read the spectacular review. 515hp and 500lb-ft of torque are the numbers and that torque comes on early and hold flat for a long time. Pricing is $2500 and requires a VIN number for your custom chip."

As for the stupid male co-worker who used to bother my wife, well not anymore. Her and her other co-workers (mostly female) laughed about how ignorant he was and he quit bragging about his new E350 finally. Thank goodness! He's probably more jealous now that I added PSS9s, H&R Sways and new AMG wheels to my wife's car. (see post #31 in link below, it has before/after pics).

https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg-clk63-amg-w208-w209/155261-suspension-advice-clk55-w209.html

Finally, wow...I can't believe you traded in a 996TT. What year was it? My buddy asked me to come along when he bought his '03 996TT w/ X50 pkg. just last year. 450 hp, twin turbo, AWD...flashy car, but it's beautiful. Yeah, the '03 RS6 was tempting, huh? I almost bought it, too, but opted for the B6 S4 instead (similar body style) and I can supercharge it later.

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Cheers Mc

Originally Posted by mcbaes72
(M3 eater, please excuse the thread hijack.)

Carl, looks like you know about the new RS6 coming out possibly next year. Yeah, I heard that, too. Since you own a B7 S4, you should visit Audiworld if you're not already a member. Here's a link to their forum...

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b7/

Here's the quote from Strat's website from the link in my other post re: RS6 Stage 1 (ECU chip):
"Stratmosphere and O.CT were the first to introduce RS6 tuning to North America. With signature O.CT smooth and massive torque, your RS6 actually goes to another level (if that's possible!). Is it great? The editors at AudiWorld thought so. Check out this link to read the spectacular review. 515hp and 500lb-ft of torque are the numbers and that torque comes on early and hold flat for a long time. Pricing is $2500 and requires a VIN number for your custom chip."

As for the stupid male co-worker who used to bother my wife, well not anymore. Her and her other co-workers (mostly female) laughed about how ignorant he was and he quit bragging about his new E350 finally. Thank goodness! He's probably more jealous now that I added PSS9s, H&R Sways and new AMG wheels to my wife's car. (see post #31 in link below, it has before/after pics).

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155261

Finally, wow...I can't believe you traded in a 996TT. What year was it? My buddy asked me to come along when he bought his '03 996TT w/ X50 pkg. just last year. 450 hp, twin turbo, AWD...flashy car, but it's beautiful. Yeah, the '03 RS6 was tempting, huh? I almost bought it, too, but opted for the B6 S4 instead (similar body style) and I can supercharge it later.
My 996TT was an 02 in seal grey. I bought it certified pre owned with 25k on the clock. It was the 414bhp version, not the X50, but went like stink. The handling was also amazing, taking corners at ridiculous speeds became utterly addicting. I bet your mate's delighted.It's a lot less flash than Ferrari or Lamborghini rivals, yet still no shrinking violet, but I couldn't afford to keep it as well as get the S4 as I just bought my long-term girlfriend a black mint 02 G500 (she had an 04 Civic so I wanted to get her something safe, practical and stylish).

I looked in the other post you placed about the S4 supercharger. That will suprise the AMG royalty! Do you know how much it will cost and whether it can just be bolted on or will other mods be necessary? My S4 is new so it'll be a while before I consider anything as I don't want to invalidate the warranty. How reputable is this firm and do they provide warranty? Sorry for all the Qs, its just I always keep my cars bone stock but this is a very interesting proposition. However, if I return to England I'll be selling my S4 (and hopefully buying the new RS6) so it's all up in the air.

Wifey's 55 looks great. I don't like chrome wheels- your new ones look spot on. Love the fact you stayed with official AMGs. Very classy job.

I looked at Audiworld but don't like the way you can only open one link at a time. That could just be me though, as I'm retarded on computers!

03 RS6 was very tempting indeed. Back end is a little dated, and most American versions seem to come with the 18" multi spokes rather than 19" 5-arm but even so it is so rare and so cool. Fingers crossed they do a worthy job on the new one.
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My 996TT was an 02 in seal grey. I bought it certified pre owned with 25k on the clock. It was the 414bhp version, not the X50, but went like stink. The handling was also amazing, taking corners at ridiculous speeds became utterly addicting. I bet your mate's delighted.It's a lot less flash than Ferrari or Lamborghini rivals, yet still no shrinking violet, but I couldn't afford to keep it as well as get the S4 as I just bought my long-term girlfriend a black mint 02 G500 (she had an 04 Civic so I wanted to get her something safe, practical and stylish).

I looked in the other post you placed about the S4 supercharger. That will suprise the AMG royalty! Do you know how much it will cost and whether it can just be bolted on or will other mods be necessary? My S4 is new so it'll be a while before I consider anything as I don't want to invalidate the warranty. How reputable is this firm and do they provide warranty? Sorry for all the Qs, its just I always keep my cars bone stock but this is a very interesting proposition. However, if I return to England I'll be selling my S4 (and hopefully buying the new RS6) so it's all up in the air.

Wifey's 55 looks great. I don't like chrome wheels- your new ones look spot on. Love the fact you stayed with official AMGs. Very classy job.

I looked at Audiworld but don't like the way you can only open one link at a time. That could just be me though, as I'm retarded on computers!

03 RS6 was very tempting indeed. Back end is a little dated, and most American versions seem to come with the 18" multi spokes rather than 19" 5-arm but even so it is so rare and so cool. Fingers crossed they do a worthy job on the new one.
Ah, the '02 996TT. Very nice car, too. I guess I can't blame you for trading that in and going for something more "practical" w/ 4 doors and a decent back seat. Did you consider the RS4 though? And the G500 is a safe purchase for your girlfriend. That's a dramatic change from a Civic for her, I bet.

As for how much superchargers will cost to install, I have no real $$$$ amounts. I would assume about 10 hrs. of labor times say $100 an hr. = $1K. Add that to the $8K SC and you're looking at $9K + tax and S&H. Like your S4, mine's under warranty and it would definitely void it. If I ever did make a crazy mod purchase like that, I'm refunding the Audi Extended warranty I bought for $2600 since it'll be voided anyway. Not sure on VF Engineering, but AWE and APR seems reputable, especially APR. From those three, I would most likely choose APR. But I'm in no hurry to buy that mod. I'll let others be the first to find out the problems and once it's worked out and reliable, I may go for it.

It's okay re: AudiWorld. I actually prefer that forums set up, but that's probably because I've been there for years. Yeah, I hope the new RS6 body style will be more up to date. I'm finally getting used to the new front grill of the B7 S4s and C6 A6s.
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Yeah she loves her G. It's fairly quick for the weight of the thing and has bags of character. It obviously isn't a sporty drive, but it's fun nonetheless. Just got to watch the speed on twisties like west Sunset.

I did consider the RS4 but, and i'm a little embarassed to admit as i've driven manuals all my life, I wanted a tiptronic. I wanted an Audi, as they're the most subtle of the big three German brands and the S4 was the quickest new vehicle they had (overpriced and oversized A8 W12 excepted, nice car if you've got kids though). I still haven't seen an RS4 in L.A., probably because it's a little understated for most of the people around here!

As regards the new grille, i'm not going to lie to you, i'm still not sure myself. I like the B6 a lot and probably prefer the B6 S4 styling but at least the B7 looks fresh and I like the rear-end. Sometimes I see my car and it looks modern and from the class above, other times it looks a little odd.

Good decision on waiting for the supercharger for warranty and reliability reasons. If it works out it'll make for one hell of a Q-car.

Is your S4 a manual? Have you taken it to the track. I haven't but I have seen 155mph on the speedo, it felt rock-solid. If I get an RS6 I want the limiter removed though. If they do turbo it, which they surely will, then it may just quiten down those who keep referring to Audi's drivetrain loss due to the AWD. I'd pick AWD over RWD whenever your talking of an everyday car packing upwards of 500bhp. If you hear anything definitive about it let me know and i'll do the same. The new S3 is turbo'd so they haven't forgotten about them. fingers crossed!
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