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Old 08-04-2006, 12:14 PM
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the original post is a very descriptive one... and I buy it.

why would he lie about it?

For those of you that are defending the E55, please take in consideration that maybe the drive was not pushing to max and didn't want to get a ticket.

Anything is possible...

But the E55 and the SLK55 are close enough to be a fair race.

If the SLK55 gets a .5 advantage... it would take a hard push for the E55 to pass. If the E55 driver, only goes 80%+/-, it would take even longer to overtake the SLK55


Trap speeds are ony 3 to 6mph different on the average. Therefore again, if the advantage is given to the SLK, it would take a hard push for the E55 to make up the difference.

Would the E55 kill a SLK55, YES. Granted if they both launch at the same time or the roll at the same time.
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Whatever there's gas in...
Catch that DB9 after break-in and post another story.
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Originally Posted by S-Clusiv
Catch that DB9 after break-in and post another story.
And the story will be the same. The DB9 is a 13.2 sec car (the Coupe, the vert in this post is yet heavier so its time & trap speed are a bit slower).
A good read for you.....
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...nvy-page2.html

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Originally Posted by TopGun32
the original post is a very descriptive one... and I buy it.

why would he lie about it?

For those of you that are defending the E55, please take in consideration that maybe the drive was not pushing to max and didn't want to get a ticket.

Anything is possible...

But the E55 and the SLK55 are close enough to be a fair race.

If the SLK55 gets a .5 advantage... it would take a hard push for the E55 to pass. If the E55 driver, only goes 80%+/-, it would take even longer to overtake the SLK55


Trap speeds are ony 3 to 6mph different on the average. Therefore again, if the advantage is given to the SLK, it would take a hard push for the E55 to make up the difference.

Would the E55 kill a SLK55, YES. Granted if they both launch at the same time or the roll at the same time.
Yup. All 110% true points.
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Whatever there's gas in...
Originally Posted by Yellow R1
And the story will be the same. The DB9 is a 13.2 sec car (the Coupe, the vert in this post is yet heavier so its time & trap speed are a bit slower).
A good read for you.....
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...nvy-page2.html

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Wow..thank you for the link and the info..I had no idea the SLK55 could take a DB9...my apologies.
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Wow..thank you for the link and the info..I had no idea the SLK55 could take a DB9...my apologies.
No need for an "apology". It's just a car forum where we can sometimes get useful info from each other. Hope it helps.

Have a good weekend!
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:01 AM
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Lots of great responses. Another supporter of the stories. So, nice kills.

Re: E55, I do think it's faster but who knows why he lost.

-late jump vs slk early jump
or
-E55 driver not giving it 100%. I think this is probably the case. Why?
If you have a powerful car, you sometimes forget there are other fast cars out there too. After pulling on many weaker cars in my slk55, I may not give it 100% when I see someone fly up next to me and challenge. I guess I subconciously think I'll just show them a little instead of WOT. I have been caught off guard with some cars that were probably modded. Once you realize that a car is quick, it's difficult to catch up. So, that's probably what happened to the E55 driver. Maybe he'll give it 100% the next time he comes across a SLK55.
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I think a SLK55 could sit with or edge out a E55 depending on the situation, as many have pointed out the cars are very close performance wise stock vs stock.
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An SLK55 runs heads up with MN6 C6 Vettes in the Quarter. The GTO is heavier so its just slower. Its simple math. Does anyone ever do any research before posting? Geezus.

There is no way an SLK55 will run heads up with a manual C6 in the quarter unless that vette owner has no idea how to drive. Your average MN6 Z51 C6 will run mid-low 12's at 114.5-115.5mph. After the quarters up, the C6 will continually walk away. SLK55=great car but C6=greater.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
An SLK55 runs heads up with MN6 C6 Vettes in the Quarter. The GTO is heavier so its just slower. Its simple math. Does anyone ever do any research before posting? Geezus.

There is no way an SLK55 will run heads up with a manual C6 in the quarter unless that vette owner has no idea how to drive. Your average MN6 Z51 C6 will run mid-low 12's at 114.5-115.5mph. After the quarters up, the C6 will continually walk away. SLK55=great car but C6=greater.

ur saying that a c6 is greater than a slk55 b/c its faster ?
unless the vette driver is PERFECT at shifting launching he will loose to the slk in 1/4
btw,
its AMG 6.2, not 6.3
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ur saying that a c6 is greater than a slk55 b/c its faster ?
unless the vette driver is PERFECT at shifting launching he will loose to the slk in 1/4
btw,
its AMG 6.2, not 6.3
I never said the C6 is a greater car then an SLK55 because its faster. I happen to own a C6, and could have just as easily gotten an SLK55, but I wanted the better looking, handling, faster "sports car". And about your PERFECT shifting? A stock A6 corvette Z51 will beat an SLK in the 1/4, nevermind me granny shifting my MN6

6.3? Why dont you look on the front fender of the new AMG's. It says 6.3
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
I never said the C6 is a greater car then an SLK55 because its faster. I happen to own a C6, and could have just as easily gotten an SLK55, but I wanted the better looking, handling, faster "sports car". And about your PERFECT shifting? A stock A6 corvette Z51 will beat an SLK in the 1/4, nevermind me granny shifting my MN6

6.3? Why dont you look on the front fender of the new AMG's. It says 6.3
I smell a noob troll
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I smell a noob troll

Ah go **** yourself. You guys are in such denial that the American performance cars walk all over your German cars. Its always you guys that talk **** about the american cars, why because we dont have better plastics in our cars, better leather? They're all over weight, under achieving pigs that play the "what if?" game.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
Ah go **** yourself. You guys are in such denial that the American performance cars walk all over your German cars. Its always you guys that talk **** about the american cars, why because we dont have better plastics in our cars, better leather? They're all over weight, under achieving pigs that play the "what if?" game.
Unearthed ya! btw this is MBworld, so of course people like german cars. And yeah, the GT3 is a real "over-weight, under achieving pig!"
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Jesus where do all the trolls come from?

Yo dumb *** ... the engine is 6.2 liters ... 6.3 was used because of previous mercedes in the past.

You do know that the 55 motors are really 5.4 liters right?

Seriously where do all these dumbass trolls come from? Freaking another loser to start ignoring.

They come here post ... they usually have less than 20 total posts ...
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Yo dumb *** ... the engine is 6.2 liters ... 6.3 was used because of previous mercedes in the past.

You do know that the 55 motors are really 5.4 liters right?

Seriously where do all these dumbass trolls come from? Freaking another loser to start ignoring.

They come here post ... they usually have less than 20 total posts ...

Yo dumbass, no **** the engines 6.2 liters! What makes you think I didnt know that. Just cause I said its 6.3 on the fender? Retard. I used 6.3 AMG as my member name cause the cars known as a 6.3. What did you want me to use? 6.2xxxAMG? And the 55 being a 5.4? No **** jerkoff! I use to own a 2001 E55 back when most of you didnt even know what an AMG was. So go somewhere else with your bull****.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
An SLK55 runs heads up with MN6 C6 Vettes in the Quarter. The GTO is heavier so its just slower. Its simple math. Does anyone ever do any research before posting? Geezus.

There is no way an SLK55 will run heads up with a manual C6 in the quarter unless that vette owner has no idea how to drive. Your average MN6 Z51 C6 will run mid-low 12's at 114.5-115.5mph. After the quarters up, the C6 will continually walk away. SLK55=great car but C6=greater.
C6's don't run low 12 sec quarters (not stock they don't). Every publication I have ever seen posts the MN6 between 12.6 sec to 12.8 sec. SLK55s run 12.7 - 12.9 sec (same publications so we are comparing "apples to apples"). C6s DO indeed trap faster than SLK55s (meaning as speed increases, their pull increases) but their ETs are not faster (the autos & verts are a hair slower than the MN6s...makes sense). And, FWIW, does up to one tenth of a sec through the 1/4 really matter anyway? The cars are pretty evenly matched in my book (the C6 having an advantage in handling, the AMG in braking). Nobody will fault you for owning a C6 - they perform very well. The Z06 is just amazing (just whipped the 430 & new 911 Turbo in Europe at the track for significantly less money ). If I were GM, I'd build an improved interior & charge another $5k but that just my opinion).

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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
If I were GM, I'd build an improved interior & charge another $5k but that just my opinion).

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I've always wondered why they don't just offer a luxury package at the said $5k to determine the demand? Surely some will buy it. Or is more of a 'trying to keep the model focused purely on performance' deal?
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
I use to own a 2001 E55 back when most of you didnt even know what an AMG was.
HMMMMmmmm... do you even bother to read? Notice anything in my signature?
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HMMMMmmmm... do you even bother to read? Notice anything in my signature?




btw,
my dad had a 124 500 w/ a 6.0 amg engine back in russia, that was about 96
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Early jump makes a huge difference...

...for example, suppose you've got two cars which both run a 13.0 under ideal conditions. Now, suppose that the driver of one hops on it 0.5 seconds before the driver of the other....badda-bop, badda-bing, he just won by five carlengths or so, even though the two cars' performance is the same.

Now take the case where one car is 0.5 faster than the other. So, one runs a 12.5, the second runs a 13.0. But the 13.0 car (Car A) stomps it 0.5 before the other. The net result is that even though Car B is faster, the race is a tie.

Yes, if you kept running forever, eventually the faster car would catch up and pass, but this is a finite race, and if you handicap yourself by a half second, it takes a long time to get it back!

And this is only 1/2 second: think about a race where you're in D, the other driver stomps it, and then you stomp it in response...now you've lost not only the time it takes you to react and stomp it, but also the amount of time it takes the *car* to react to you stomping it and get into the right gear, so tack on another 1/2 to 3/4 seconds to the reaction time!

So yes, it's entirely plausible for an SLK55 to do what he did getting the jump like that.

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