1phd1jd

Yes, my Porsche is **** yellow too. That is why I can say it and not look too bad.

The minivan is my daily driver since I am retired from work and am a stay at home dad with my two small children.

2thfixr

Just wanted to clarify. The car you "raced" was a 996Turbo and not a 993. The 993 doesn't have side intercooler ducts. It's a pretty common mod with 996TT owners. The side vents in question are made by Techart. They are simple inserts made for the 996TT that are painted and replace the factory ones.

Hamann7

Here is an interesting video... Alex's Protomotive 996TT vs. an RX-7 with LS1 engine and NOS... hopefully link works... for my dedicated ricers.

http://media.putfile.com/Protomotive...s-LS1-NOS-RX-7

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

You really have some self esteem issues don't you? At the end of the day, he still has a blown SLK too. Give it up man, you're getting a little desperate.

Darren500

"Talk about reading posts! I do not have the GT2. Porsche made a Turbo S model in 2005. Only 500 world wide and 250 for the states, read about it, it is a track car. "

The 2005 911 Turbo S is not a track car.
It is the same thing as all other 911 Turbo's since 2002 with the x50 engine option package which included a higher HP engine, upgraded transmission, and upgraded exhaust. Nothing more than that and painted CGT wheels and a few badges that say Turbo "s". You can read all about the Porsche model lines www.6speedonline.com

This was the last production year of the 996 series TT's so they needed to do something to tie over Turbo buyers till the 997TT was available which costs the same if not less and blows away the 996 TTS in stock form

PS Toothfixer and Hamman this is the same guy who came to 6speedonline bragging how much he overpaid for his 996TT cab so take his posts with a large grain of salt

Yellow R1

Hey Rocket Scientist,

That video has already been posted and discussed in this thread. It's a Chevy engine in a Mazda...it's a hybrid.
Read posts 78 and 81...


I already posted Alex's times and then I posted an Rx-7 that was faster. What part of that is so hard for you to comprehend?


Oh that's right you're the guy who made up the 1400 hp figure. Maybe next week you can make it an even 2000 hp ?


You have proven that you will lie and make up hp figures to try and strengthen your argument. It's not flushing here.

bmoores

The car Hamann7 is talking about does not belong to Alex Ross, it belongs to Alex D. (not posting his last name out of privacy) so the car you were posting and bench racing with serves no relevance in this thread. Hopefully Alex will chime in on this thread and set the record straight. His car is silver with black wheels and has a relatively stock looking appearance.

Below are a could of threads and a vid. The first thread talks about acceleration times of the turbo that Hamann7 has been talking about and the second is about Alex's appearance on pinks with brief discussion about some of the other cars he owns. YellowR1 I assure you nothing Hamann7 has said in this thread has been fabricated and hopefully sooner or later Alex will find this thread as i know its been brought to his attention

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...ht=vralexander

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...ht=vralexander

vid racing vs. a TT350Z (passenger daily drives a ten second car)

http://media.putfile.com/Protomotive-996tt-VS-tt350z

SLK55R

Those modified porsches are BEASTS but they are slower than the modified RX-7 ... which is YellowR1's point.

At least to date that is the case. If one of the porsches does a 1/4 mile in under "Abel Ibara ran a 6.95 @ 200 plus." then porsche's can boast faster times than a RX-7.

I bet that Rx-7 isn't streetable but there seem to be plenty of 9 sec Rx-7s that are streetable. I believe the numbers for porsche have yet to break the 10 sec barrier. ( I could be wrong and would love to see a 9 sec porsche)

Of course the point that YellowR1 was making interms of "saying the truth" for Hamann7 was to show which porsche had 1400hp.

blackbenzz

I cant believe I missed this thread. First off, any car can be modded to go fast. My friends cyclone (pickup truck) breaks tens and is street legal. If I wanted a car to go in a straight line I'd get a Supra. If I wanted to track it i'd get a Porsche. You all have some very nice cars and I dont see the point of arguing about who could be faster and what not. Each car has its positives and negatives. No one car will be the best in every category.

HLG600

Although no forced induction was used in the Mazda, an LS1 would be a better starting point for a drag car as opposed the rotary motor. Boosting an LS1, which isn't too bulky and dropping it in the lightweight RX7 body would not be a bad idea since it would TREMENDOUSLY improve lower end responses...assuming you have traction figured out.

The issue here is not about fighting over who has the better car, that is childish and will lead to nothing. Of course almost anyone would take a Porsche Turbo over an RX7, the exception of course being the true RX7 fanatics. What impresses me about these RX7's is that they can move that fast, rivaling some Porsches and surpassing others. These 9 second cars can be driven daily, but who would actually drive such a car on a daily basis? Honesty, quit whining about which is better. Personally, I prefer the Porsche Turbo, hands down for me. Does that mean I spit on the RX7(?)...absolutely not. Preference and respect are two totally different things. Just because I prefer one make does not mean I spite the other. Examples such as these impress me, and I am always anxious to see what the latest bunch of gear heads like myself who share my passion have come up with.

HLG

Yellow R1

Actually no cars other than my RX-7 and the Porsche I raced are relevant to the thread.


So we are going to see a 1400 hp dyno? Which by the way also has nothing to do with the race or the thread...

Yellow R1

This has not been the case. As a matter of fact there is some mag this month which compares an LS1 to rotary and the rotary is quicker. You don't race from a 2000 rpm dig.

Maybe YOU can show me where I EVER said the RX-7 was better?


"The issue here is not about fighting over who has the better car, that is childish and will lead to [B]nothing"

I personally know two guys who drive 9 second RX-7's on the street. They idle fine, one even has a/c. One recently dynoed ~ 700 rwhp and they haven't finished tuning.



Again, SHOW ME ONCE WHERE I SAID THE RX-7 WAS BETTER?


Bingo! I would suggest you go back and read in the first couple of posts what I said about the Porsche.

I am not the one who is beating up on Porsche or any other brand, except the interior color of ONE CAR. This thread was simple quick race and I was asking for some clarification. It then turned into "jap junk" "no way" etc. from a bunch of clowns with an inferiority complex.

I am not so lost in brand that I cannot appreciate other cars.
There is always something better, something faster. Cars are pretty low on my priority list in my life. They are nothing but a hobby and obviously transportation.

SLK55R

OFF thread
Would the LS1 really be a better starting point? Its considerably heavier than the rotary motor. I also have a RX-8 and its amazing how tiny that rotary motor is. I would have thought that putting in a tri-rotary would have been better. Of course the tri-rotary isn't smog legal(right?)

Still OFF thread
Would I take a 996 TT over a RX-7 ... definitely!

I just don't like how these 2 porsche drivers seem to think japanese cars are SOOoooo inferior. Do they think they are the only people with wealth? Or that someone wealthy has to buy a porsche? Please ...

HLG600

Whoah buddy, my post was in response to 1phd1jd's comment of you still drive a Mazda. Maybe YOU can show ME where I said I was ARGUING over YOUR comments...

EDIT:

I think you misunderstood me. My first paragraph was aimed at the quote. The second was addressed to those participating and reading the thread, hence the separation and the fact that your quote about the LS1 had no relation to my second paragraph.

HLG600

Sir, that is exactly my reasoning, re-read my original post, it was not edited. Although I prefer the Porsche, I still have respect for those tuned RX7's, and made that very clear.

In a drag race, torque is what it is crucial. Despite the weight punishment, an LS1/LS2 makes a wealth more of torque which is readily available.

SLK55R

Chuckle ... I was agreeing with you ... I thought your post was right on target. My comment on the those 2 specific porsche drivers was for them.


My first comment, about the LS1 was just that I was curious how the tri rotor would compare.

Yellow R1

Its no big deal - confusion like this never happens in person - only over the dayum internet where email is "cold". My responses have been directed at some of the Porsche guys that are brand blind (every brand has its "fanatics"), make wild azz/unsubstantiated claims about cars (which have nothing to do with the thread from day 1), and get bent out of shape when they are shown historical racing facts (then digress into calling another brand a "****box", etc).

Geezuz, 911s are awesome cars as I said at the begining of the post yet some of these guys start attacking my RX-7. WTF is all that about? Its like they never graduated from Jr. High. The RX7 was/is an excellent all around performer & it was basicly designed from ground zero to be a track car. I guess some of the 911 guys have a problem with that fact (retort to saying "anything can be made fast to go in a straight line"). Well, no shiate, really? Both the RX7 and the Supra are beasts on road courses as well. They then see this documented proof (a decade + of head-to-head IMSA results, for example) & then retort to stating the obvious, "Well, the Porsche is made better". F-me! I hope so for $100 - $200k & 13 - 14 yrs of development on a firmly established 40 yr+ platform.

I drive my RX7 because its rare, is fun as hell, and performs like a supercar. Why would I spend $180k+ for a GT2 when its doesn't perform better than my RX-7? Especially when I wrench on the RX7 myself (no need to pay Franz at the local Porsche Dealer $5k for a clutch swap). I can easliy afford a Lamborghini but me & the wife are happy with what we have & that is all that matters. Cars are a hobby. I'd rather spend more time & money scuba diving off a chartered yacht in the Carribean than some high dollar car that just sits in the garage most of the time.

See ya,
-Matt

HLG600

Thank you. Both are respectable motors, just different characteristics.

HLG600

Yeah, miscommunication happens too often. I'm glad you enjoy life and do things for fun not show - I share that philosophy. But rest assured my friend, the day I am fortunate enough to buy my own Lamborghini, the last thing it will do is sit in a garage all day.

HLG

DBERRY7578

I am enjoying this post. LOL

Yellow R1

HLG,
Good read.

http://www.yawpower.com/tqvshp.html

rwm514

Probably a Cayman

Yellow R1

It wouldn't have mattered the outcome would have been the same...bus lengths are bus lengths

rwm514

BTW, those intakes above the rear wheels are not for the brakes, they are intakes for the intercoolers.

transferred

I think you meant Gayman.

Good catch on the intakes not being for the brakes, I hadn't noticed someone had mistakenly written that.