AndrewAZ

Well if you car is as fast as you claim.. Then you should be dead even with an E46 M3 on most rolling races and you should pull on the prior generation E36 M3. Putting an M3 motor in a normal 3 series will not make it as fast as and M3 since it lacks the drive train and various other items.

Militant-Grunt

SNEAKY CARL, ITS A M3! With Chip no less!

yeuchau

i wonder which m3 engine was in that 325i

AndrewAZ

My best guess is its one out of the E36. I saw some guy that did a post changing his either was a 330 or 325 to a 4 door to an M3 4 door with an E46 M3 motor. And it took him forever to work out all the issues and getting the motor to run ended up spending like more than a new M3 would cost.

But either engine with his car that is "making" the numbers he is posting his car should of won, espically if the 325i had an e36 M3 motor in it with just a chip, it would need to a turbo or supercharger to make the power needed to beat this freak E320..

ProjectC55

LOL! Who me?



I guess Tommy did'nt read in my sig where it says 94 332i. Good runs Tommy!

ProjectC55

Not tru.
It just won't stop or handle as well but it will handle good enuff as most 3 series BMW's do.

The normal 3 series car will be just as fast if not faster. You only need to install the 3.15,3.23, or 3.38 LSD M3 diffs if you want. You will have 3 choices depending on the yr and whether you got the diff from an auto or a manual. Stck E36 325i diff is an open diff 3.15.

Also the drivetrain parts(rear axles),brakes,rotors are smaller and lighter on a reg E36 3 series which would also help the car due to less unsprung weight.

However I did a Full swap using the E36 M 3.2L motor,swapped the M3 subframes,rotors, callipers,axles,ZF tranny,diff,driveshaft, M front bumper,fogs,brake ducts, everything in to completely turn the car into a sleeper stealth 4dr M3(M332i). However just like the MB this motor just drops in the OBd1 car no harness chg or anthing. Well except for a small electronic chg to the temp sensor.

Only thing 325 about this car is the title. Funny thing is that I have a regular stck 99 2dr M3 also and it's slower and heavier than this car.

There are plenty of 325i E30(alot more wrk to do though) and E36 body 3 series owners(Not to mention E30 M3 owners) that have done the conv by just transplanting the motor or in the case of the E36 body depending on$$ did an entire transplant like I did.
However,the E55 5.5L engine into My C43 was a whole hell of alot simple and cheaper to do and the perfect car to do a swap to because of all it's already stck AMG parts. Just drop the 5.5L motor in the C43, no tranny chg,no swapping of brakes or suspension parts no nothing! I did the M3 swap myself took me 2 months to swap out everything and put the car back together. I paid to have the AMG swap done,it took a couple of hrs .


Funny thing is not only was Tommy surprised but I surprised the hell out of the guy with the new 335i Twin Turbo and the E46 330i with the M3 body kit. There was actually one E46 M3 but we never got a chance to match up.

Don't worry Tommy! I later got thoroughly trounced on a rolling start by a 6.0L Pontiac GTO. What I nice car. That's when I was wshing I had my C55. My W202 C55 gives my friends modded SRT8 a run for the $$$. That was'nt gonna happen the way he walked my poor little 3 series.


Sorry about the long response guys. All in all had fun and this BEAST of a little car will be for sale!

(mods: Full ENTIRE M3 swap,3.2L motor with Schrick cams,TMS chip,3.23 LSD,Euro 3.5" HFM, M3 H&R springs,M3 Bilstein shocks,rear strut tower reinforcements,front strut tower brace,M3 dash cluster(8k rpm's),M3 headliner and panels,M3 steering wheel)

C43AMG

Carl , what's up with the name change ?

ProjectC55

PM'd you!

ultraseven

I like your last handle better.

AndrewAZ

So I am assuming the 325i that raced the "freak" e320 only had an E36 M3 engine swap done.. Even then it would need to make 330-340 HP to keep up with this "freak" E320 that is putting 270 HP to the wheels. So in order to make that much power the motor would have to be turbo or supercharged, or the E320 is not putting down as much as claimed.

Tommy_s4

dude 270 at the crank, i never said at the wheels

AndrewAZ

ow ok. Got it..

ProjectC55

Tommy are you able to see the serial # on the motor? My friend Jeffrey who has a Single turbo C36 could tell you by looking at and driving the car if the motor is in fact from a C36.

HLG600

I have a way to figure out some more info on this mystery 320. (Thanks to ChrisB for posting this link in the R129 forum.)

http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng

AndrewAZ

that site does not always work... One of the vins for our cars does not work.. In fact on MB owners online it says error also. The car also had trouble getting tele aid set up when it was new since they had the wrong numbers registered under the car.. I call it the James Bond car since the last 3 of the vin are 007.

Tommy_s4

not really sure, any idea where the hell it might be?

C43AMG

I've said it before....this is where I would start if I wanted to unravel the mystery of this car :

Birth Certificate available for MB cars, new and old

New from the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center, Mercedes owners can now purchase the Classic Certificate, the document that verifies a car's build date and original factory specifications. Available for new or vintage Mercedes models for $100, this "birth certificate" comes professionally bound in a black case, and makes an excellent pride-of-ownership display that is suitable for framing.

The DaimlerChrysler Archives make it possible to establish the original specifications of almost every vehicle built under the Mercedes and Mercedes-Benz brands. Some factory records date back to 1890, and the scope of archived data ranges from internal order number to bodywork and engine codes, to the place of delivery. Ordering the Classic Certificate records the owner's name in the Mercedes-Benz Corporate Archives, thus integrating the owner with the car's history.

Phone between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday, at 1-866-MBCLASSIC (622-5277).

ProjectC55

Well there u have it Tommy! Spend the 100.00 and you solve the mystery!

Tommy_s4

No, that would tell me i have an e320, not an e36. Somebody prob did a motor swap. Thats why I gota find the engine's vin number

ultraseven

Charging 100 bucks? Wow, I sure hope they use Coach or LV leather for that spanking case .

bbelt88

Your car is faster than an E46 325i, and any model year before....but i hate to break it to you, an (im assuming you have a E46 328i, if you have an E90 or E92 disregard this post) E46 328i is not faster than an E90 325i.

Tommy_s4

the car was an m3 motor swap. sneaky carl

Roupin

It's not that hard to figure it out. The older MB's respond VERY well to minor intake and exhaust mods. I'm willing to bet that your car has the stock E320 engine in it, but your mods really woke it up. As I've said before, I knew of a stock C280 with an intake and Remus exhaust, and it would run high 14's/low 15's. That's a full second off the stock times.

It would be very cool if you really had an engine swap, but the facts don't line up. It's not a mystery, it's just one of the factory freaks in the right hands.

Tommy_s4

your more then likely right.

AsianML

Andrew has an E90.