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Old 02-18-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
your car must be fast to pull on C6 Z06 from a roll, im not sure even i could do that
LOL! Jay I already know where u r going with this!

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Yeah... I appreciate everyone's response.

As I said, I've seen countless vids of the Z06 online so I know it's potential, on that same note it doesn't change what happened that night. In any case, I see where you guys are coming from so it's all good.

Next time, just as timeless said, I'll have to record it.

Although, last time I ran that LP640 and recorded it I got *****ed at for daring to do that in light-to-non-existent traffic
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
There is a very strong possibility that the Z06 owner did not want to push his car. He could have been short shifting and not going full WOT. The Z06 is an animal but it is prone to lots of wheelspin. You have to be a very good driver and you have to respect the car, so he may have just been only 3/4 on it when racing you.

I totally believe you though, I have beaten cars that others have said are unbeatable. A lot can happen in a street race. A Z06 is a much much harder car to drive than a Benz.

There is also the possibility that it was a regular C6 with Z06 body panels. There are plenty of examples of this on corvetteforums. It only costs about $2,000 and you can get the Z06 rear panels that fit right onto the regular C6.

To put things into perspective, a C6 Z06 when driven right is a low-mid 11 second car. Stock SL600 with top down should be a mid 12 second car. A full second on a 1/4 mile is HUGE, but if the driver is p*ssy-footing it and granny shifting, then of course its possible. I wouldn't call BS.
Unless the car is loud without being pushed, I would disregard that theory. While he may have been a moron at driving (so says the consensus), from the roar of that engine, I would say he was pushing it.

I don't know if you guys realize this but I have a V12... TT... not exactly a pushover you can toy with. Even the LP640 in the recorded race I posted here busted *** to pass me, and only managed to do so at about 120-130mph...

He was alone, I had a full tank and my g/f with me and still managed to lead his ***, by 120-130 I already crossed the 1/4 mile first....
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And for punishment I guess you are gonna have to race the little sleeper C43 I own one day Bobby just to see where u r really at!
Hey, I tried to be a nice guy and give him the benefit of the doubt, take it easy bro!...plus, Z06 ain't that fast...

And Carl, you already know the outcome of that race lol. I've seen your "C43" at e-town and I know my place...however, I'll have no problem running you with my new car (hey, its slower than an SL600 so it should be a good race, right?)
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Although, last time I ran that LP640 and recorded it I got *****ed at for daring to do that in light-to-non-existent traffic
That's why they make camera mounts!
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Originally Posted by Exodus
I don't know if you guys realize this but I have a V12... TT... not exactly a pushover you can toy with. Even the LP640 in the recorded race I posted here busted *** to pass me, and only managed to do so at about 120-130mph...

He was alone, I had a full tank and my g/f with me and still managed to lead his ***, by 120-130 I already crossed the 1/4 mile first....
Your SL is one of the fastest, most powerful cars on the road, and I don't think anyone here would argue that. You beating an LP640 in a 1/4 mile race with him taking over at 120-130 adds up just fine and is exactly what I would expect. A stock SL600 legitimately beating a C6 Z06 from 60-150 requires some fuzzy math or mods that you didn't know were on the car. Throw it on the dyno and you might be pleasantly surprised. I know personally how badly a Renn CL600 can leave my E55 on the highway, so its not as if I don't know what your car is capable of. Keep taking them down and be safe.
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I know personally how badly a Renn CL600 can leave my E55 on the highway, so its not as if I don't know what your car is capable of. Keep taking them down and be safe.
Yeah, I hear those Renntech CL600's can be pretty quick.
Old 02-19-2008, 10:53 PM
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Yeah, I hear those Renntech CL600's can be pretty quick.
Out of curiosity, did you ever get a chance to run a C6 Z06???
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
your car must be fast to pull on C6 Z06 from a roll, im not sure even i could do that
Have you ever ran a stock Z06? I know you were there when Jamie Furman broke the record and you also broke your record...so you guys indirectly raced. But still, you ever run one on the streets or track? How about 997TT? Thanks dude
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
Have you ever ran a stock Z06? I know you were there when Jamie Furman broke the record and you also broke your record...so you guys indirectly raced. But still, you ever run one on the streets or track? How about 997TT? Thanks dude
i have run a stock 997tt and I walk it easily, I have never lined up with Jamie but I wouldnt want to as he was trapping 128+ to my 125+ on the same day, the zo6 was not only quicker but faster. On the track with the correct driver you have seen what it can do in optimum conditions, that being said I have never raced one.
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
There is a very strong possibility that the Z06 owner did not want to push his car. He could have been short shifting and not going full WOT. The Z06 is an animal but it is prone to lots of wheelspin. You have to be a very good driver and you have to respect the car, so he may have just been only 3/4 on it when racing you.

I totally believe you though, I have beaten cars that others have said are unbeatable. A lot can happen in a street race. A Z06 is a much much harder car to drive than a Benz.

There is also the possibility that it was a regular C6 with Z06 body panels. There are plenty of examples of this on corvetteforums. It only costs about $2,000 and you can get the Z06 rear panels that fit right onto the regular C6.

To put things into perspective, a C6 Z06 when driven right is a low-mid 11 second car. Stock SL600 with top down should be a mid 12 second car. A full second on a 1/4 mile is HUGE, but if the driver is p*ssy-footing it and granny shifting, then of course its possible. I wouldn't call BS.
Look at this video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWJzPD5WGJc
SL600 doing 0-TOP SPEED in 20 some seconds.
I can't see why won't he beat the C6 Z06?
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I hate quoting magazines, but most have the C6 Z06 doing similar run in 17-18 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Hazy1
I hate quoting magazines, but most have the C6 Z06 doing similar run in 17-18 seconds.
Wow!
This is crazy, the fastest car I have does 0-100MPH in 15 seconds.
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Originally Posted by GMBALL
Wow!
This is crazy, the fastest car I have does 0-100MPH in 15 seconds.
Magazines show optimal results. 2 seconds isn't that big of a difference, given driver, weather conditions etc. Especially if I have some goodies I don't know about.
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Originally Posted by Hazy1
Out of curiosity, did you ever get a chance to run a C6 Z06???
Nope.
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C&D results:

2004 SL600

11.9 @ 120

2006 Z06

11.7 @ 125.

The ZO6 is not too much quicker than the SL, and at freeway speeds, its even less of a gap. And we all know that 6th in a Vette is useless.
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Originally Posted by BenzBoy12
C&D results:

2004 SL600

11.9 @ 120

2006 Z06

11.7 @ 125.

The ZO6 is not too much quicker than the SL, and at freeway speeds, its even less of a gap. And we all know that 6th in a Vette is useless.
Oh lord, you have no idea what you just started!

Ah... yeah, apparantly, some people around here have thrown some sticky tires on their Z06s and with a short-shifter and some abra-ka-dabra manged to pull of a high 10 second pass. Making my high 11 rather slow. In any case, I recall reading that too.

Not too much of a difference, even with a good driver pulling off 11.7, point 2 ends up being 2 cars. So you figure I got the slight jump, he shifted late/early one gear and viola! You have the above outcome...
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^^^i will bet you that your car cannot run an 11sec 1/4 mile on street tires like test quoted above, what you dont know is that car that was tested was a renntech car by CD not a stock SL600, what you also dont know is that the Z06's that ran 10's had no short shifter, its bone stock down to the paper filters.
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
^^^i will bet you that your car cannot run an 11sec 1/4 mile on street tires like test quoted above, what you dont know is that car that was tested was a renntech car by CD not a stock SL600, what you also dont know is that the Z06's that ran 10's had no short shifter, its bone stock down to the paper filters.
No, I know about the "renntech" stuff with the C&D. I was lurking here since before the days of that debate. In any case, I wasn't sure of what it (Vette) had so don't jump on me like I'm knocking down the Z06.

For the love of god, Z06 lovers are worse then ricers

I will bet you I can. If a stock E55 managed a 11.7 pass, I'm willing to bet I can do the same-- it's all in the launching. Not that I'll ever bother mind you.
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a 5 MPH trap speed difference by the end of the 1/4 mile is a beating.... not even close... the Z06 is much quicker at any speed....


Originally Posted by BenzBoy12
C&D results:

2004 SL600

11.9 @ 120

2006 Z06

11.7 @ 125.

The ZO6 is not too much quicker than the SL, and at freeway speeds, its even less of a gap. And we all know that 6th in a Vette is useless.
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I will bet you I can. If a stock E55 managed a 11.7 pass, I'm willing to bet I can do the same-- it's all in the launching. Not that I'll ever bother mind you.
11.7 might be tougher than you suspect, Exodus. The fastest self reported 1/4 time for any stock SL is 11.69 and that's for a stock SL65. Other than the much disputed Car and Driver 11.9 run, no one with a stock SL600 has yet claimed to have run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile. At least not that I've seen.

Launch is actually pretty easy to control at a good dragstrip. There's vastly more traction on a well prepped track than on an open road. It's the SL's considerable mass that's holding it back.

If you haven't yet run your SL at a dragstrip, suggest you look for the "Test & Tune" days and times. I've always found it a lot of fun to run the car flat-out, plus you get to see some other great cars and meet interesting people.
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Originally Posted by jmf003
11.7 might be tougher than you suspect, Exodus. The fastest self reported 1/4 time for any stock SL is 11.69 and that's for a stock SL65. Other than the much disputed Car and Driver 11.9 run, no one with a stock SL600 has yet claimed to have run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile. At least not that I've seen.

Launch is actually pretty easy to control at a good dragstrip. There's vastly more traction on a well prepped track than on an open road. It's the SL's considerable mass that's holding it back.

If you haven't yet run your SL at a dragstrip, suggest you look for the "Test & Tune" days and times. I've always found it a lot of fun to run the car flat-out, plus you get to see some other great cars and meet interesting people.
There's a video somewhere on youtube of a stock SL65 running 11.5. In any case, my point being if with enough practice a stock E55 hity 11.7, I think the SL can do the same.

I don't know guys, either my g/f's SL55 (which get's pwnd badly), the LP640 and the Z06 I raced are all:

A) Broken
B) *****footing
C) Sucked at driving



No one to blame but myself I suppose, I saw this coming a mile away.
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Originally Posted by Exodus
No, I know about the "renntech" stuff with the C&D. I was lurking here since before the days of that debate. In any case, I wasn't sure of what it (Vette) had so don't jump on me like I'm knocking down the Z06.

For the love of god, Z06 lovers are worse then ricers

I will bet you I can. If a stock E55 managed a 11.7 pass, I'm willing to bet I can do the same-- it's all in the launching. Not that I'll ever bother mind you.
Im far from jumping on you and Im not a Z06 lover or one would be in my garage. I do have extensive experience with the engine platform that we both share.

Originally Posted by Exodus

I will bet you I can. If a stock E55 managed a 11.7 pass, I'm willing to bet I can do the same-- it's all in the launching.
im ready anytime you are
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Being the proud owner of both a C55 AMG and a 2007 Z06, I can yell you outright, without stealing your thunder, because that is not my intention, whatever it was that you raced, was definitely not a C6 Z06, and if it was, he has no idea how to drive! Being based out in Dubai these last couple of years, I get a fair share of opportunity to race all sorts of exotics, not just on the streets but at the track as well. Not to sound obnoxious or over confident, but I have consistently outrun on many occassions, F 430's, modded E55 Vath's, Brabus, Porche 997 TT's, Lamborghini Gallardo's and a host of other willing players. The only 2 cars I can really say "beat" me by a car length was a Porche Carrera GT and a Lamborghini Murcialego LP 640...Thats it so far, then again, I have not been above 160 with some of the other above mentioned as that is where the Z06 lags in power due to gearing ratios. so speaking from my experience, this is what I can share with you about the Z06. I am not saying it is the greatest or fastest car ever made, but one thing is for sure, it is one scary fast beast for the money. Comfort wise, it doesnt hold a candelstick to my benz!!
Nice race either way!
Have you run against a full Renntech modified SL65?
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Originally Posted by Exodus
There's a video somewhere on youtube of a stock SL65 running 11.5. In any case, my point being if with enough practice a stock E55 hity 11.7, I think the SL can do the same.

I don't know guys, either my g/f's SL55 (which get's pwnd badly), the LP640 and the Z06 I raced are all:

A) Broken
B) *****footing
C) Sucked at driving



No one to blame but myself I suppose, I saw this coming a mile away.
Actually, Exodus, I find your C6 Z06 story to be completely credible. The C6 Z06 will launch faster because of its better power to weight ratio but at high speeds air resistance becomes the issue. The R230 SLs have a fairly low coefficient of drag combined with a fairly small frontal area, which makes them strong runners at high speeds.

I'd also expect your car to be about three to four lengths ahead of your GF's SL55 in a 1/4 mile race. So no argument with your SL600 pwning her SL55 in any straightline race.

It's the 11.7 second 1/4 mile that I think is problematic for a stock SL600. But, hey, if you take your SL600 to the track and it runs an 11.7 1/4 mile, I'll be the first to salute you!


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