I raced an S2000
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I have driven the S2000 on several occasions and raced against them at both SCCA events and playing at Track days, as well as twice in stop lite drags. This was all in my old MR2 turbo with a few external mods. In ALL cases the MR2 pulled the S2000 (both the original S and the later larger engine model). My point? (getting there) the S is a very quick little car. With any mods it will keep up with 90% of the cars on the highway. Handling is simply stellar.
A few weeks back on the way to a track event (in Mexico), I was in my old C36 and my son and a friend was in his S2000 2.2 with lowered final drive ratio (for auto-X) We did not race per se but did hammer them from the on ramp onto the highway from about 50 to 120ish. I started in front and remained there, and I could see no evidence of him gaining on me at all. I also have a C32. I've not raced an S2000 in it but would not be afraid to, especially from a dig. It is a bit quicker than the C36, but not much as the C36 was a really underated car. In fact the C36 along a local test track was about 2-3 mph slower than the modded MR2. The C32 is 4 mph faster than the C36 and about equal to or slightly faster than the MR2 on the same course which involves a rolling kick from 30 mph from a fixed point A to point B hitting about 75-80 in each car. So, I have little doubt that a stock C32 would bust a S2000 even with light mods to the S. It is hard to get loads of more power from them high strung Hondas without adding a SC or turbo or NOS. The C32 is about a low 5 sec 0-60 car which puts it about a sec ahead of a stock S.
A few weeks back on the way to a track event (in Mexico), I was in my old C36 and my son and a friend was in his S2000 2.2 with lowered final drive ratio (for auto-X) We did not race per se but did hammer them from the on ramp onto the highway from about 50 to 120ish. I started in front and remained there, and I could see no evidence of him gaining on me at all. I also have a C32. I've not raced an S2000 in it but would not be afraid to, especially from a dig. It is a bit quicker than the C36, but not much as the C36 was a really underated car. In fact the C36 along a local test track was about 2-3 mph slower than the modded MR2. The C32 is 4 mph faster than the C36 and about equal to or slightly faster than the MR2 on the same course which involves a rolling kick from 30 mph from a fixed point A to point B hitting about 75-80 in each car. So, I have little doubt that a stock C32 would bust a S2000 even with light mods to the S. It is hard to get loads of more power from them high strung Hondas without adding a SC or turbo or NOS. The C32 is about a low 5 sec 0-60 car which puts it about a sec ahead of a stock S.
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the s2000's are high 13 to mid 13 sec cars. C32's are mid to low 13 second cars. Lot of members have been able to do sub 5sec 0-60's on just upgraded tires. There's no doubt that the c32 will beat a stock s2k in straightline given the higher power and no worries about mis shifting.
I think your s2k story doesn't really give a accurate baseline on how a stock s2k will perform. You described a 50-120mph sprint with a s2k that has been modded to be slower then a stock one.
I understand he wanted to stay in gear longer for auto x, but most s2k drivers actually increase there final drive ratio to bring them down to the low 13's.
He increased his max speed but decreased his accerleration.
I think your s2k story doesn't really give a accurate baseline on how a stock s2k will perform. You described a 50-120mph sprint with a s2k that has been modded to be slower then a stock one.
I understand he wanted to stay in gear longer for auto x, but most s2k drivers actually increase there final drive ratio to bring them down to the low 13's.
He increased his max speed but decreased his accerleration.
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the s2000's are high 13 to mid 13 sec cars. C32's are mid to low 13 second cars. Lot of members have been able to do sub 5sec 0-60's on just upgraded tires. There's no doubt that the c32 will beat a stock s2k in straightline given the higher power and no worries about mis shifting.
I think your s2k story doesn't really give a accurate baseline on how a stock s2k will perform. You described a 50-120mph sprint with a s2k that has been modded to be slower then a stock one.
I understand he wanted to stay in gear longer for auto x, but most s2k drivers actually increase there final drive ratio to bring them down to the low 13's.
He increased his max speed but decreased his accerleration.
I think your s2k story doesn't really give a accurate baseline on how a stock s2k will perform. You described a 50-120mph sprint with a s2k that has been modded to be slower then a stock one.
I understand he wanted to stay in gear longer for auto x, but most s2k drivers actually increase there final drive ratio to bring them down to the low 13's.
He increased his max speed but decreased his accerleration.
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I'm hoping the s3000 will bring back some life into the car.
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I think your s2k story doesn't really give a accurate baseline on how a stock s2k will perform. You described a 50-120mph sprint with a s2k that has been modded to be slower then a stock one. I understand he wanted to stay in gear longer for auto x, but most s2k drivers actually increase there final drive ratio to bring them down to the low 13's. He increased his max speed but decreased his accerleration.
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Exactly my point...even an S2000 with F/I will not keep up with a 500HP/TQ monster of a vehicle. Yours had a CAI (sounds nice and minimal gains) and exhaust (same as CAI and not cumulative)...not sure what you mean by wheels...except maybe lighter wheels? Which also is minimal on the S2000. Yours was not even turbo/supercharged.
Even with a 5-6K RPM launch you are going to get out of the hole to sixty in about 5.5 seconds wheras that 500HP Lightning is going to do it in 4.5 easy.
So something does not add up.
Even with a 5-6K RPM launch you are going to get out of the hole to sixty in about 5.5 seconds wheras that 500HP Lightning is going to do it in 4.5 easy.
So something does not add up.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/t...ere_149854.htm
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Couple of facts:
S2Ks were DEMOTED in SCCA from T2 to T3 - not enough power
PROmoted in Autocross - great handling
An FI S2K won the SF region SCCA in IT. His nearest competitor was a 928 that was bored later in the season.
He got the jump on the first run. ENTIRELY different story if he was running the same 91/93 octane the Z-06 was.
More like 70%.....
I like the exaggerations for the S2k videos. Looks like a wanna-be joining the exotics. The 2nd clip was one honk and no indication of another car. And speeding through the intersection.
It seems to me they are not really fast until FI. Unfortunately, that applies to a lot of cars, including ricers...
S2Ks were DEMOTED in SCCA from T2 to T3 - not enough power
PROmoted in Autocross - great handling
An FI S2K won the SF region SCCA in IT. His nearest competitor was a 928 that was bored later in the season.
Here's a clip of a 460whp beating a 501whp z06 on the first run and keeping up with it on the second run.
If it can keep up with a z06, its more then enough to kill a 4600 lb truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmUE7te1hkQ
If it can keep up with a z06, its more then enough to kill a 4600 lb truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmUE7te1hkQ
Here is a boosted S2000 running against a 700 hp 996tt:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/t...ere_149854.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/t...ere_149854.htm
It seems to me they are not really fast until FI. Unfortunately, that applies to a lot of cars, including ricers...
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Couple of facts:
He got the jump on the first run. ENTIRELY different story if he was running the same 91/93 octane the Z-06 was
I like the exaggerations for the S2k videos. Looks like a wanna-be joining the exotics. The 2nd clip was one honk and no indication of another car. And speeding through the intersection.
It seems to me they are not really fast until FI. Unfortunately, that applies to a lot of cars, including ricers...
He got the jump on the first run. ENTIRELY different story if he was running the same 91/93 octane the Z-06 was
I like the exaggerations for the S2k videos. Looks like a wanna-be joining the exotics. The 2nd clip was one honk and no indication of another car. And speeding through the intersection.
It seems to me they are not really fast until FI. Unfortunately, that applies to a lot of cars, including ricers...
Your missing the point. i posted the vid to show timeless that basing what a s2000 is capable of hp wise from turbo based on a cheap turbo kit is mistake.
Even if the s2000 jumped it or not or running 100 octane, the point was to show the s2000 can at least capable of keeping up with a z06, therefore more then likely to be able to beat a 4600lb truck.
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Honestly why don't you troll somewhere else. You a mean a wanna-be exotic like a gto? The s2000 is not a exotic, neither is a corvette.
Your missing the point. i posted the vid to show timeless that basing what a s2000 is capable of hp wise from turbo based on a cheap turbo kit is mistake.
Even if the s2000 jumped it or not or running 100 octane, the point was to show the s2000 can at least capable of keeping up with a z06, therefore more then likely to be able to beat a 4600lb truck.
Your missing the point. i posted the vid to show timeless that basing what a s2000 is capable of hp wise from turbo based on a cheap turbo kit is mistake.
Even if the s2000 jumped it or not or running 100 octane, the point was to show the s2000 can at least capable of keeping up with a z06, therefore more then likely to be able to beat a 4600lb truck.
I got your point. Parts of the videos were either lame or gay, that's all. With enough boost, anything can happen.
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Honestly why don't you troll somewhere else. You a mean a wanna-be exotic like a gto? The s2000 is not a exotic, neither is a corvette.
Your missing the point. i posted the vid to show timeless that basing what a s2000 is capable of hp wise from turbo based on a cheap turbo kit is mistake.
Even if the s2000 jumped it or not or running 100 octane, the point was to show the s2000 can at least capable of keeping up with a z06, therefore more then likely to be able to beat a 4600lb truck.
Your missing the point. i posted the vid to show timeless that basing what a s2000 is capable of hp wise from turbo based on a cheap turbo kit is mistake.
Even if the s2000 jumped it or not or running 100 octane, the point was to show the s2000 can at least capable of keeping up with a z06, therefore more then likely to be able to beat a 4600lb truck.
Second, I would have to agree with Deuuce that those videos really did not show anything other than the S2000 catching up to the Porsche which was not racing at all.
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First, I really enjoyed the 2005 S2000 I had...so I am not bashing the car...just saying it is underpowered.
Second, I would have to agree with Deuuce that those videos really did not show anything other than the S2000 catching up to the Porsche which was not racing at all.
Second, I would have to agree with Deuuce that those videos really did not show anything other than the S2000 catching up to the Porsche which was not racing at all.
It was probably one of the most advanced NA I4's in the market at the time. Unfortunately they lost that title to vw/audi with there move to DI in there I4's.
It was only designed to be in production for two years to show people that honda can make great rwd cars.
It was a lot more successful then they originally predicted, but unfortunately they let it become stagnate.
On the performance side, honda's current offerings are weak.
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i agree its underpowered stock but the car also came out 9yrs ago. 9yrs ago it out handled and was quicker then other roadsters in its class...even roadsters double its price, like the z4.
It was probably one of the most advanced NA I4's in the market at the time. Unfortunately they lost that title to vw/audi with there move to DI in there I4's.
It was only designed to be in production for two years to show people that honda can make great rwd cars.
It was a lot more successful then they originally predicted, but unfortunately they let it become stagnate.
On the performance side, honda's current offerings are weak.
It was probably one of the most advanced NA I4's in the market at the time. Unfortunately they lost that title to vw/audi with there move to DI in there I4's.
It was only designed to be in production for two years to show people that honda can make great rwd cars.
It was a lot more successful then they originally predicted, but unfortunately they let it become stagnate.
On the performance side, honda's current offerings are weak.
Maybe the upcoming S3000 will be something nice.
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Both, I'm sure you would agree, are a far cry from being exotic.
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i'm actually more excited about the new vw/audi mid engine roadster thats coming out. The vw version is suppose to start out at $25k and i think the audi version goes up to $45k.
Its suppose to be a poor man's boxster. Hopefully they'll keep the weight down and use the TFSI I4.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/10/d...etroit-not-la/
Its suppose to be a poor man's boxster. Hopefully they'll keep the weight down and use the TFSI I4.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/10/d...etroit-not-la/
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i'm actually more excited about the new vw/audi mid engine roadster thats coming out. The vw version is suppose to start out at $25k and i think the audi version goes up to $45k.
Its suppose to be a poor man's boxster. Hopefully they'll keep the weight down and use the TFSI I4.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/10/d...etroit-not-la/
Its suppose to be a poor man's boxster. Hopefully they'll keep the weight down and use the TFSI I4.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/10/d...etroit-not-la/
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