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Old 03-12-2009, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
I had my Gtech with me, clocked 4.8 to 60 and 12.8 quarter mile

my 335 is stock, but I've been well versed in car control and manual transmissions.

the IS-F was trying.
Stock a 335 should never hit a 12.8, and a 4.8 0-60 does not translate to a 12.8 1/4 mile unless your car is capable of a 12.4 @ 115+ and you had very bad spin.

Which gtech do you have?
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I walked away from a 335i with no problem. The ISF mustve been spinning. They trap a good 113+. Is your 335i modded?
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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
I had my Gtech with me, clocked 4.8 to 60 and 12.8 quarter mile

my 335 is stock, but I've been well versed in car control and manual transmissions.

the IS-F was trying.
We don't doubt it happened, but the IS-F is two steps above a stock 335i in terms of 1/4 mile performance.

A real-world 1/4 mile for a well-driven stock 335i is 13.4s-13.5s @ 105mph with good conditions. The Gtech is only a measurement tool for changes, not an absolute.

An IS-F in the right gear should walk you no problem.

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Which gtech do you have?
Isn't the VBox a much better measurement tool anyway?
Old 03-12-2009, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
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We don't doubt it happened, but the IS-F is two steps above a stock 335i in terms of 1/4 mile performance.

A real-world 1/4 mile for a well-driven stock 335i is 13.4s-13.5s @ 105mph with good conditions. The Gtech is only a measurement tool for changes, not an absolute.

An IS-F in the right gear should walk you no problem.



Isn't the VBox a much better measurement tool anyway?
I didnt take the Gtech (RR) as fact, I just was displaying what it said.. It might not have been warmed up, I cant remember.

I admit I am pretty hard on the clutch when I'm having fun with other cars and I do have stickier rubber than the REO50A's that came on it (hate runflats)

the IS-F should have beaten my car on paper, and it did. but it did and should not 'Walk it' from what I've seen and felt from my friends IS-F

and yes the VBOX is a better measurement tool, but they are more expensive and very hard to get a hold of around here

I'm claiming anything I witnessed is normal and there might have been problems with the other car, maybe just a fluke. but thats what I witnessed.

EDIT: checked the run in my computer and I dont think my Gtech was calibrated, I got some very peculiar results after 80MPH, the 0-80 times should be correct.

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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I walked away from a 335i with no problem. The ISF mustve been spinning. They trap a good 113+. Is your 335i modded?
he might have been - I am not familiar with the stock rubber on an IS-F

was the 335 you 'walked' a sedan, or a coupé, sport, or non, manual or auto?

my 335 is just modded with stickier tires (and I dont weigh much)

I've seen stock Manual 335s trap 111MPH @ 12.805 on REO's

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Old 03-13-2009, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
he might have been - I am not familiar with the stock rubber on an IS-F

was the 335 you 'walked' a sedan, or a coupé, sport, or non, manual or auto?

my 335 is just modded with stickier tires (and I dont weigh much)

I've seen stock Manual 335s trap 111MPH @ 12.805 on REO's
It was a 335i coupe auto. Also I knew this guy with a chipped 535i auto which I walked away from. A stock 335i doesnt trap even close to 110. No way no how!
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Ill go find a strip and get a slip - mine does.

I am assuming a 12" roll-out and a 5,000rpm dump, and no missed or slow shifts.

autos dont hold a candle to the sticks on this car, and the 535 is 300 or so pounds heavier... not to mention I only weigh 150lbs.

do keep in mind though - the IS-F was pulling away once we hit 100.

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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
Ill go find a strip and get a slip - mine does.

I am assuming a 12" roll-out and a 5,000rpm dump, and no missed or slow shifts.

autos dont hold a candle to the sticks on this car, and the 535 is 300 or so pounds heavier... not to mention I only weigh 150lbs.

do keep in mind though - the IS-F was pulling away once we hit 100.
Sorry, I ran both 6 speed and auto versions of the 335i in my old CLK55 and walked them, and having run both cars that *do* trap 110 and run a few 335is in the CLS55, I can assure you that stock, those things are trapping at well below 110.
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that's fine, I know the stock test numbers don't back me up - maybe my car is just special or his IS-F sucks, I cant explain it and I know that trapping where I do is almost ///M car territory, but with my warmed up calibrated Gtech I ran a 12.91@106 with a 3,500rpm dump and a 10" R-O, again, I know the Gtech isnt 100% accurate, but when its warm and properly calibrated (this time) its damn close to accurate, and that suggests my car is not trapping 'Way below 110'.

I'm not claiming to have beaten an IS-F, I just wanted to post my personal experience of being very close in speed to one even if it was a 'fluke'.

my parents have a 335i 6-speed auto coupé and its not nearly as fast when you cant control your launch.
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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
that's fine, I know the stock test numbers don't back me up - maybe my car is just special or his IS-F sucks, I cant explain it and I know that trapping where I do is almost ///M car territory, but with my warmed up calibrated Gtech I ran a 12.91@106 with a 3,500rpm dump and a 10" R-O, again, I know the Gtech isnt 100% accurate, but when its warm and properly calibrated (this time) its damn close to accurate, and that suggests my car is not trapping 'Way below 110'.

I'm not claiming to have beaten an IS-F, I just wanted to post my personal experience of being very close in speed to one even if it was a 'fluke'.

my parents have a 335i 6-speed auto coupé and its not nearly as fast when you cant control your launch.
Well, to me a 4 mph difference in trap is pretty substantial, but that's subjective...anyway, the GTECH's estimate of your trap is in stock territory, a bit on the high side though, but still within the realm of possibility; the ET, otoh, is far faster than that thing should be able to hit short of DRs, a sticky track, and a DA from heaven.

As to the IS, if you got a decent jump (a half second or a bit more), or if you started in gear while he did a stomp from D, it'd give you such an edge that it'd take him quite a bit of time to match your speed and pass you. I once got a good launch vs. a Z06 in my CLK, and it took him 'till over 90 to catch up. Lots of variables go into winning a race, and trap speed is but one!
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agreed, too many variables - when people give me a hard time in the 335, I go dig out the C63, then they learn whos boss
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agreed, too many variables - when people give me a hard time in the 335, I go dig out the C63, then they learn whos boss
That'll definitely do the trick!!
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im sorry but i call bull **** on clk55 amg guy

the c55's have same power and heres a clip that shows that is-f has ***** the video is not best quality but it prooves my point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmgmsZYio4I
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Originally Posted by SL-ML-C
agreed, too many variables - when people give me a hard time in the 335, I go dig out the C63, then they learn whos boss
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