w211 E55 VS CLK550 with exhaust
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On a serious note, one suggestion.
Do not street race...it was only 2 years ago that a fellow member of this site was involved in a tragic/fatal incident.
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK.
Do not street race...it was only 2 years ago that a fellow member of this site was involved in a tragic/fatal incident.
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK.
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Guess the track didn't like his car so much, as it "allowed" his friend's LSD-equipped car to pull 0.2 sec. better 60' times. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Skratch, the solution here is obviously NOT to install an LSD, but to be nicer to your track next time! Send flowers, cookies, that sort of thing.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Skratch, the solution here is obviously NOT to install an LSD, but to be nicer to your track next time! Send flowers, cookies, that sort of thing.
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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we were at the same track,same day,basically same power,I had new M/T drag radials,he had used bfg drag radials.He was putting the power down I wasnt.
I dont want 1.9 60fts I want 1.6s and under.
You think 1.9 60 fts are good?
I dont want 1.9 60fts I want 1.6s and under.
You think 1.9 60 fts are good?
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
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Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG - Specs
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE AS TESTED: $82,025 (base price: $70,770)
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 362 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 376 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 182.6 in Width: 68.5 in Height: 55.4 in
Curb weight: 3808 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 173 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.80 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city driving: 15 mpg
C/D-observed: 18 mpg
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE AS TESTED: $94,839 (base price: $89,020)
ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 469 bhp @ 6100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 516 lb-ft @ 2650 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 112.4 in Length: 193.5 in Width: 73.7 in Height: 54.7 in
Curb weight: 4327 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.7 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 23.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 163 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
....since we just wanna "mag" race here......
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
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Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG - Specs
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE AS TESTED: $82,025 (base price: $70,770)
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 362 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 376 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 182.6 in Width: 68.5 in Height: 55.4 in
Curb weight: 3808 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 173 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.80 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city driving: 15 mpg
C/D-observed: 18 mpg
Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG - Specs
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE AS TESTED: $94,839 (base price: $89,020)
ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 469 bhp @ 6100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 516 lb-ft @ 2650 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 112.4 in Length: 193.5 in Width: 73.7 in Height: 54.7 in
Curb weight: 4327 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.7 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 23.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 163 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
....since we just wanna "mag" race here......
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Let's get this straight, you believe a W208 CLK55 is as fast as a CLS55 or an M5 from a roll? Car magazines are littered with errors, even UK ones which are superior to US ones. This is an example of yet another error. Seriously, just look at the stats pages and count the inaccuracies. You'll run out of fingers before you turn the page.
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Guess the track didn't like his car so much, as it "allowed" his friend's LSD-equipped car to pull 0.2 sec. better 60' times. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Skratch, the solution here is obviously NOT to install an LSD, but to be nicer to your track next time! Send flowers, cookies, that sort of thing.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Skratch, the solution here is obviously NOT to install an LSD, but to be nicer to your track next time! Send flowers, cookies, that sort of thing.
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Have to look at differences in technique and prep too. Do you know if both tires were warming up?
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With dragradials you should be aiming for sub 1.8 as an acceptable 60ft, and 1.6 as very good.
Maybe your problem is in the burnout or throttle squeeze.
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
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Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG - Specs
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Visit Our Buyer's Guide »Mercedes-Benz CLK-class
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE AS TESTED: $82,025 (base price: $70,770)
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 362 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 376 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 182.6 in Width: 68.5 in Height: 55.4 in
Curb weight: 3808 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 173 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.80 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city driving: 15 mpg
C/D-observed: 18 mpg
Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG - Specs
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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE AS TESTED: $94,839 (base price: $89,020)
ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 469 bhp @ 6100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 516 lb-ft @ 2650 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 112.4 in Length: 193.5 in Width: 73.7 in Height: 54.7 in
Curb weight: 4327 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.7 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 23.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 163 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
....since we just wanna "mag" race here......
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t/specs_page_2
*ahem*..... sorry, to all those who are incorrect...... <jon>
copy n paste just n case....
Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG - Specs
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Pages: 1 2
Visit Our Buyer's Guide »Mercedes-Benz CLK-class
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2009 Mercedes-Benz CLK-class Coupe - Spied
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2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series - Video
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Mercedes-Benz CLK Cabriolet - Auto Shows
Mercedes-Benz CLK Cabriolet - Auto Shows
Mercedes-Benz CLK - Auto Shows
Mercedes CLK55 AMG - Auto Shows
VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE AS TESTED: $82,025 (base price: $70,770)
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 362 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 376 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in Length: 182.6 in Width: 68.5 in Height: 55.4 in
Curb weight: 3808 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 30.5 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 173 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.80 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city driving: 15 mpg
C/D-observed: 18 mpg
Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG - Specs
Trying to get a step up on the Italian job.
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Mercedes-Benz Vision CLS - Auto Shows
VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE AS TESTED: $94,839 (base price: $89,020)
ENGINE TYPE: supercharged and intercooled SOHC 24-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 332 cu in, 5439cc
Power (SAE net): 469 bhp @ 6100 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 516 lb-ft @ 2650 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 112.4 in Length: 193.5 in Width: 73.7 in Height: 54.7 in
Curb weight: 4327 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.7 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 23.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 163 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
....since we just wanna "mag" race here......
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And you call other people dumb? That's like the Pope calling an alter boy pious.
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
Let's get this straight, you believe a W208 CLK55 is as fast as a CLS55 or an M5 from a roll? Car magazines are littered with errors, even UK ones which are superior to US ones. This is an example of yet another error. Seriously, just look at the stats pages and count the inaccuracies. You'll run out of fingers before you turn the page.
#342
Oh, and blow me, I'll write what I want.
You didn't answer my question. You claim that an LSD doesn't make a car quicker at the strip, yet you also claim it help's the car's consistency at the strip. How is it possible to make a car's 1/4 mile times more consistent without improving them on average?
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Iv done better 60fts,that day i was getting 1.9.Iv hit 1.7 and done 11.5 in the 1/4 before also and that day was perfect weather conditions ect.
I know how to launch a car ect,all im saying is with an lsd I will get better consistant 60fts at the track.come to think of it,my buddy is running a 168 pulley and im running a 180 so im sure the extra low end grunt isnt helping either.
that was a prime example of an lsd car out performing a open diff car.
I know how to launch a car ect,all im saying is with an lsd I will get better consistant 60fts at the track.come to think of it,my buddy is running a 168 pulley and im running a 180 so im sure the extra low end grunt isnt helping either.
that was a prime example of an lsd car out performing a open diff car.
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So? You're such an ignoramus, you think that because they tested one car that ran a 13.1/109 that hit a 4.6 sec 5-60, that this automatically means that you'll do it in your car? There are cars they tested that ran 12.9s at 111 that ran 5 second 5-60 runs, so to think that just because "Car A" did it, even though that car came with a lower rear end, different traction control software, speed shifting tranny which your 208 doesn't have, higher rated hp, a 500 rpm higher redline, on and on and on, that "Car B" could do it, shows how little you know of the subject.
And you call other people dumb? That's like the Pope calling an alter boy pious.![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
And you call other people dumb? That's like the Pope calling an alter boy pious.
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So? You're such an ignoramus, you think that because they tested one car that ran a 13.1/109 that hit a 4.6 sec 5-60, that this automatically means that you'll do it in your car? There are cars they tested that ran 12.9s at 111 that ran 5 second 5-60 runs, so to think that just because "Car A" did it, even though that car came with a lower rear end, different traction control software, speed shifting tranny which your 208 doesn't have, higher rated hp, a 500 rpm higher redline, on and on and on, that "Car B" could do it, shows how little you know of the subject.
And you call other people dumb? That's like the Pope calling an alter boy pious.![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
And you call other people dumb? That's like the Pope calling an alter boy pious.
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As to whether we'll settle this, well, you'll have to show up first, and frankly you don't have a great track record in that department.
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You are writing about 1/4 mile times here, as your claim is that because the 209 CLK55 they tested ran a 13.1 @ 109 1/4, this "proves" that your car can match its (supposed, assuming this wasn't an errata) 4.6 5-60 run. ![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
As to whether we'll settle this, well, you'll have to show up first, and frankly you don't have a great track record in that department.
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As to whether we'll settle this, well, you'll have to show up first, and frankly you don't have a great track record in that department.
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