55 vs STI
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2001 CLK55 AMG
55 vs STI
Cold, dry, cloudy day. Lonely streets, calm wind, open roads. Quiet... Until I notice the rumbling of a STI. Heart pulses, palms sweaty, numbness over takes body... Red light, no cars in sight, a perfect stright away, just me and him, and his girl. Both looking stright, waiting, waiting, waiting........
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Cold, dry, cloudy day. Lonely streets, calm wind, open roads. Quiet... Until I notice the rumbling of a STI. Heart pulses, palms sweaty, numbness over takes body... Red light, no cars in sight, a perfect stright away, just me and him, and his girl. Both looking stright, waiting, waiting, waiting........
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
Cold, dry, cloudy day. Lonely streets, calm wind, open roads. Quiet... Until I notice the rumbling of a STI. Heart pulses, palms sweaty, numbness over takes body... Red light, no cars in sight, a perfect stright away, just me and him, and his girl. Both looking stright, waiting, waiting, waiting........
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
I hardly drive the Clk55 because I'm having so much fun in the C63
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Nice kill (again).
Practice your launches by knowing your powerband. Wheelspin will cause you to lose plenty of races and you won't be able to play "catch-up" at 100mph, let alone 80+ (1/8th mile mark) under a lot of circumstances.
Also, don't race on compromised surfaces (dust, moisture, etc). Your car is too fast for that, LSD or not.
Sell it.
Practice your launches by knowing your powerband. Wheelspin will cause you to lose plenty of races and you won't be able to play "catch-up" at 100mph, let alone 80+ (1/8th mile mark) under a lot of circumstances.
Also, don't race on compromised surfaces (dust, moisture, etc). Your car is too fast for that, LSD or not.
Sell it.
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
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Nice kill (again).
Practice your launches by knowing your powerband. Wheelspin will cause you to lose plenty of races and you won't be able to play "catch-up" at 100mph, let alone 80+ (1/8th mile mark) under a lot of circumstances.
Also, don't race on compromised surfaces (dust, moisture, etc). Your car is too fast for that, LSD or not.
Sell it.
Practice your launches by knowing your powerband. Wheelspin will cause you to lose plenty of races and you won't be able to play "catch-up" at 100mph, let alone 80+ (1/8th mile mark) under a lot of circumstances.
Also, don't race on compromised surfaces (dust, moisture, etc). Your car is too fast for that, LSD or not.
Sell it.
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See how the car responds at idle and with a brake torque as you increase the rpms.
Uneven surfaces (tire grooves), cold tires are problems. Warm tires and warm pavement will still probably yield a 1.9x 60ft with proper launch technique.
Very interesting comparison, thanks.
Very interesting comparison, thanks.
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Cold, dry, cloudy day. Lonely streets, calm wind, open roads. Quiet... Until I notice the rumbling of a STI. Heart pulses, palms sweaty, numbness over takes body... Red light, no cars in sight, a perfect stright away, just me and him, and his girl. Both looking stright, waiting, waiting, waiting........
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
GREEN LIGHT OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds of engines ROAR WAAAAAAAAaAaAaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He GOT the jump OH NO!!!!!!!!!! My rear kicks out and now I'm a car and a half behind shift now shift now!!!!!!!!
WAAAAaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAaAAAaA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm catching him in 2ns GeAR GO GO GO GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIGHTY V8 ROARS TORQUE !!!!!!!!!!! DEaD even as we hit 100 SHIFT SHIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pulling on him at 140+!!!!!!!!! Thank GOD my prayer was ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!
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OP, your post seems to indicate that you were shifting the vehicle manually rather than letting it shift itself. If so, helpful hint: don't do this. The shifts take longer to execute in manual than in full auto, particularly on the 1-2 where it will hang. Only way around this when shifting manually is to bump the shift lever several hundred RPM before redline, which defeats the purpose.
It works best to stomp it and let it handle the shifting.
As to 60' times, if you hit a 1.9x in a verified stock CLK55 I'll buy you a steak dinner. That's a pretty hard target to hit at 3450 pounds on 245 rear tires with pert near 400 lb-ft; best I've seen is just shy of 2.1. Add another 600 pounds or so and bigger tires (or better still, sticky aftermarkets) and it makes for an easier vehicle to launch, even a mullet can do it.
It works best to stomp it and let it handle the shifting.
As to 60' times, if you hit a 1.9x in a verified stock CLK55 I'll buy you a steak dinner. That's a pretty hard target to hit at 3450 pounds on 245 rear tires with pert near 400 lb-ft; best I've seen is just shy of 2.1. Add another 600 pounds or so and bigger tires (or better still, sticky aftermarkets) and it makes for an easier vehicle to launch, even a mullet can do it.
Last edited by Improviz; Feb 23, 2010 at 06:37 PM.
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As to 60' times, if you hit a 1.9x in a verified stock CLK55 I'll buy you a steak dinner. That's a pretty hard target to hit at 3450 pounds on 245 rear tires with pert near 400 lb-ft; best I've seen is just shy of 2.1. Add another 600 pounds or so and bigger tires (or better still, sticky aftermarkets) and it makes for an easier vehicle to launch, even a mullet can do it.
2.1+ is totally unacceptable for any rear drive 13sec car.
Additional weight MAY help the initial bite provided the suspension squat doesn't change the tire camber too much. Once rolling, the weight is detrimental and negatively affects the 60ft. Plus that proposed 600lbs hurts on the big end too.
We're talking about a 0-35mph+ time here. 600lbs hurts that. http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php
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Put it this way: when you own one and/or turn a 1.9x sec 60' time in one on stock rubber, then you can lecture me as to what is, and what is not, possible in one. 
Not if both vehicles have the same weight/hp ratios. Then, the heavier car should easily score a better 60' time by virtue of its greater traction.
Not if both vehicles have the same weight/power ratio. Then, the heavier vehicle will have superior traction, per Physics 101.
We're talking about a 0-35mph+ time here. 600lbs hurts that. http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php
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Find a stock 208 CLK55 that's turned a 1.9x. Chappy and Jon both turned 2.1s, and have the fastest stockers that I'm aware of. The car's been out for nine years now, so by all means, produce the data (for once).
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Looks like a couple might have. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html to run 13.1s
And you concede a 2.0 is possible? Not many CLK55 timeslips posted.
And speaking of personal attacks, also keep crying about that thread. Hilarious.
And you concede a 2.0 is possible? Not many CLK55 timeslips posted.
And speaking of personal attacks, also keep crying about that thread. Hilarious.
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Looks like a couple might have. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html to run 13.1s
And even fewer with a 1.9x 60' time in a stocker, i.e. zero.
How is it a personal attack to point out that you seem to think your car is a curmudgeon? You're the one who says it's "The Andy Rooney of Cars".
Edit in response to your edit:
I'm not crying about it (why would I cry about coming out on top?), I actually want people to read it, so they can judge for themselves the veracity of your information.
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How is it a personal attack to point out that you seem to think your car is a curmudgeon? You're the one who says it's "The Andy Rooney of Cars".
Once again, not what it refers to.
I'm not crying about it (why would I cry about coming out on top?), I actually want people to read it, so they can judge for themselves the veracity of your information.
And even fewer with a 1.9x 60' time in a stocker, i.e. zero.
1. It's too light
2. 245s are too narrow
3. Peak torque is too high
4. You couldn't do it
5. You haven't witnessed it
6. It isn't recorded on the internet
All are fallacies. Can you give a concrete reason why it can't be done?
Please don't reveal that when you tried your tire pressure was below 30psi and you tried stomping the throttle rather than a roll-on or low rpm brake torque.
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You mean once boxed into a corner since you have no knowledge of performance capabilities of open diff cars that you go crying to the Mods so you can get the last word in on a thread that was locked?
Again, I invite people to read the thread so that they can see what an expert you are on automobiles. They can see what you wrote, and how you wrote it, and decide for themselves just how knowledgeable and trustworthy you are.
Further, I have no intention of wasting time arguing with a know-nothing who has a proven track record of repeated lies and dubious information.
The fact is this: I owned a CLK55 for over six years, have forgotten more about launching the car than you know, and for you to lecture me about the capabilities of the car speaks volumes about your mindset.
Again: you claim it can be done. So prove it. When you find a single solitary example of it being done, then please, do share it with the rest of us. The onus of proof is on you here, as you claimed that "properly launched" the car should hit a 1.9, when the fact is that you've probably never even launched one, let alone owned one.
So prove it.
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So we'll give you an "A" for arrogance, but an "F" for FAILure to back up yet another claim. Claim without evidence = fail.
As I said: do post that 1.9x 60' for a stock 208 CLK55 when you find it. Even better would be to see you actually do it--oh, wait, you don't own one.
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That only bears a repeat because your knowledge is lacking, as is your technique and/or skill.
You seem to imply that 1.9x is impossible because:
1. It's too light
2. 245s are too narrow
3. Peak torque is too high
4. You couldn't do it
5. You haven't witnessed it
6. It isn't recorded on the internet
All are fallacies. Can you give a concrete reason why it can't be done?
Please don't reveal that when you tried your tire pressure was below 30psi and you tried stomping the throttle rather than a roll-on or low rpm brake torque.
You seem to imply that 1.9x is impossible because:
1. It's too light
2. 245s are too narrow
3. Peak torque is too high
4. You couldn't do it
5. You haven't witnessed it
6. It isn't recorded on the internet
All are fallacies. Can you give a concrete reason why it can't be done?
Please don't reveal that when you tried your tire pressure was below 30psi and you tried stomping the throttle rather than a roll-on or low rpm brake torque.
Last edited by Deuuuce; Feb 24, 2010 at 01:00 AM.
