Improviz

Based upon what? Have you taken it to a strip or something similar?

Anyway, that link is for a run with no slip, no video, no name of track or date, basically no figures other than ET and trap, not exactly ironclad proof that any and all GL450s will run a 14.8 at 93, any more than if I went there and posted a run of a Bluetec running a 14.9 @ 96 with no slip etc...any Joe Blow can go in there and post any numbers he likes; at least a slip shows something ran it....

Here is a similar example from dragtimes.com of a stock 2007 E320 Bluetec, which claims a 15.1 at 92, so even if both are accurate, a 1 mph difference in trap isn't exactly buslengths:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-11709.html

And here's another of a stock 2004 E320 CDI (predecessor to Bluetec, same body etc) running a 14.9 @ 93:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-3291.html

Maybe so and maybe not....numbers at your preferred site don't show any substantive difference, so run is within margin of error and would be a driver's race. And the instrumented runs you want to dismiss at Edmunds were one tenth apart, so it's not as if you're in Porsche territory vs him in Honda Civic territory or something, these numbers are neck and neck.

AsianML

I've been here for nearly six years now...word of suggestion - Improviz is the last person I'd argue with when it comes to this stuff. The man is a walking drag time encyclopedia.

Innocent_Stud

I like your reasoning(s).

All I know is (at least for me in the real world runs that I have done before), I was a little bit (about 1 car length) ahead of a newer Cadillac Escalade after 60 mph. And if you want you can look those up too. Not the larger ESV ones but the regular "lighter" sized ones. They aren't exactly slow either and have trapped around 15 seconds in the 1/4 mile at over 93 mph before. This may sound irrelevant but if I'm close to that or a little faster than an Escalade in real world, then I know I'm likely faster than a stock E class diesel...

Is the proof that you require HAVE to be a hard copy type document posted on dragtimes WITH a photo of a slip and all that? What if I just post something from motortrend indicating otherwise from a publication? Would that be good enough?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

Scroll down for the performance statistics indicated by MT. Yes it showed the Escalade trapped 1 mph faster but they're around dead even. Driver's race between that, my GL450 and a stock E class bluetech today and of the older? Possibly... I wouldn't mind randomly running one.

Improviz

Possibly, but even if so, you're missing my point, which was that the two vehicles are quite close, so we aren't talking a blowout here in any case.

Well, the InsideLine test I cited wasn't that fast, so we certainly can't just simply state that this test establishes the norm and dismiss the other one out of hand, and in that publication the two were very close...unfortunately I can't find any other GL450 tests to cross-check; C&D has an intro page on their site but no numbers, no help there.

Sure, when only a few tenths separate vehicles it's always a driver's race (actually more than a few tenths depending...error and reaction time add up to well over a couple of tenths). You do have one advantage w/the AWD, can get a better launch with that.

Innocent_Stud

I see. Very nice. You're actually a very nice well informed member here unlike other most people I see on here. Respectful too. I thank you for that and not for immediately trying to make fun of me etc.

CharlyE500

Dude, i do race sometimes with my wife 06 Odyssey when I am by myself but never won .........

bmstyle

Why is everyone always hating? SHEESH

CharlyE500

But why in the world you wanna pull a E320 Bluetech

Innocent_Stud

Somebody else and I were comparing stats and this and that. Just comparing opinions, stats (facts). People nowadays will run anything they have and not just me.