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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:51 AM
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C32 vs new Accord coupe V6

not really a race, but some stuff just pisses me off. I was driving south on I-5 coming down from San Jose on the way back to Los Angeles today. I was following the traffic flow at around 85-90mph all the time and I came up behind this black Accord coupe. I was going around 95mph actually at the time, so I switched lane and prepare myself to pass him, but the guy give it gas and try to force me to stay behind him. So, I gave it a little more gas and powers in front of him at 105.

I didn't think much and just cruise back to 90mph, but now I see he's tailgating my ***. At this point the right lane opens w/ no cars for 3/4 miles down the road from what I can see and no cops. I made the move to the right and he follows, so I floors it and by the time I was going 140mph the Accord became a little dot in the mirror. He was trying too at first. Didn't know what he was thinking.

anywayz, I got home after 4 hrs and 50 mins drive from SJ to my house in Diamond Bar .
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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didn't know Accord has the coupe
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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didn't know Accord has the coupe
the Accord coupe has been sold in North America for a long time.

Europe and most Asia countries gets the smaller Accord which is sold as the TSX in the US and Canada.

I think the North America version Accord V6 has 240hp I believe.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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yes the accord 3.0 v6 has 240hp. IMO, its over-rated, power wise. although it has 240 hp, honda engines are notorious for having low torque numbers. its one of those deals that look good on paper but not on the road. furthermore, honda has been having trouble with its automatic transmissions mainly because they are outdated and they keep putting more stresses on them by slapping on more powerful engines. nevertheless, if it was a MANUAL v6 coupe, then it would be a different story. the sprint to 60 comes almost a full second faster than the auto V6 coupe. at higher speeds, 100+, the accord has trouble but the performance between the auto and manual are still translated there.

all in all, a c32 will show accord tail lights all the way up to the rev limiter
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Wow, harsh. Of course, you shouuld also note that the c32 is 2x the price. I'll tell you one thing though, the manual is indeed faster than a c230k
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Wow, harsh. Of course, you shouuld also note that the c32 is 2x the price. I'll tell you one thing though, the manual is indeed faster than a c230k
ricerocket's words are a little harsh indeed.

IMO the Accord coupe is a very nice car. I just hate the guy behind the wheel in this case.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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sorry, i dont mean to offend anyone if i did, im just stating the facts, all from personal experience. im a former owner of a honda accord.. 1999 accord ex-v6 sedan to be exact. purchasing that car was a mistake for me.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ricerokets4life
sorry, i dont mean to offend anyone if i did, im just stating the facts, all from personal experience. im a former owner of a honda accord.. 1999 accord ex-v6 sedan to be exact. purchasing that car was a mistake for me.
None taken. I'm completely ambivalent about the Accord. I was just pointing out that your words were a bit harsh. As usual, the general comparisons between MB and Acura/Honda apply here: you get more for your money on the Accord but now soul.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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None taken. I'm completely ambivalent about the Accord. I was just pointing out that your words were a bit harsh. As usual, the general comparisons between MB and Acura/Honda apply here: you get more for your money on the Accord but now soul.
not if you get the TSX or the RSX... I drove the friend's RSX, it's pretty fun to drive.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Maybe the guy just wanted to check your ride since it was looking pretty tight and all that's why he was tailgating you?
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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not if you get the TSX or the RSX... I drove the friend's RSX, it's pretty fun to drive.
Damn, you're right. I test drove an RSX when they first came out and WOW!
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Gotta love the little C32
How is the C32 compare to the new C55? Is the C55 a lot faster?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GordoNx3o9
Gotta love the little C32
How is the C32 compare to the new C55? Is the C55 a lot faster?
on the freeway probably. haven't drove one or matched up against one, so don't know. BUT you know that new car usually out performs the old.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ricerokets4life
yes the accord 3.0 v6 has 240hp. IMO, its over-rated, power wise. although it has 240 hp, honda engines are notorious for having low torque numbers. its one of those deals that look good on paper but not on the road. furthermore, honda has been having trouble with its automatic transmissions mainly because they are outdated and they keep putting more stresses on them by slapping on more powerful engines. nevertheless, if it was a MANUAL v6 coupe, then it would be a different story. the sprint to 60 comes almost a full second faster than the auto V6 coupe. at higher speeds, 100+, the accord has trouble but the performance between the auto and manual are still translated there.

all in all, a c32 will show accord tail lights all the way up to the rev limiter
Seems a little harsh. I traded my 03' Accord EX-L in for a new TL the other day. I even test drove the new V6 and it is not underrated at all. It actually gains 10hp if you put premium in it and this was clearly shown by some dyno charts that www.vtec.net did on some Accords. But in all seriousness that guy in the Accord was just an *** and glad to see the C32 smoked the crap out of him.

The 240hp J series motors are very nice and smooth. Honda did have a recent recall on their newly desgined 5 speed automatic trannies that were mated to V6 engines in the TL and the accord, and the fix takes no longer than 1 hour to apply and I had it done on my TL while i waited there. The newly redesigned J series motor is very smooth and makes great torque, only downside is its a FWD vehicle and not a RWD but not bad since I use it as my daily driver.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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I wouldn't under-estimate these honda engines especially since the J series can be s/c'd or turbo'd. You mate that with a nice 6speed and you got some serious competition.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 02:49 AM
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So my roommate has an 03 Accord V6 with 6 speed manual... I just drove it again today. It sure is a lot faster than my C230 no doubt... But no chance against the C32 for sure. Transmission is smooth and short throw, but the gas response is a little weird... You push in a little and it doesn't really go up... You go in more and it shoots to 2500... After driving my C230, I actually stalled the Accord today haha. But that car's almost 30 grand... For that much money I love my C230...
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Sure, ur friend's accord isnt that fast since he's NA...I was referring to FI, supercharger or a turbo setup. An acura cl type-s MT (J32 engine with 260hp stock) with a s/c can put down ~300whp/260lb-ft while a custom turbo setup can put down ~400whp/360lb-ft. They're no joke bro.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 02:42 AM
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...I was just pointing out that your words were a bit harsh.

I guess I'm still trying to figure out exactly what was said that was so harsh by RiceRocket?

We are talking about cars in here right?
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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I guess I'm still trying to figure out exactly what was said that was so harsh by RiceRocket?

We are talking about cars in here right?
exactly what i was thinking. oh well.

Originally Posted by ronnie0738
I wouldn't under-estimate these honda engines especially since the J series can be s/c'd or turbo'd. You mate that with a nice 6speed and you got some serious competition.
youre right the J engines can have FI. although rare, it can happen. however, like i stated before, the FUNDAMENTAL FLAW with the 6th (98-01) and some 7th gen (02+) V6 Accords is the fact that it is mated to a poorly built auto tranny. that is why FI upgrades are so rare for the J series engines as opposed to B, K and even H series engines. why do you think it took 3 years for Comptech, the tuner to Honda - like what Renntech is to Mercedes, to R&D a supercharger for the J30A1 motor? to this day, its the only aftermarket FI Kit you can purchase. other than that, its all custom jobs. there is no such thing as a Turbo Kit for the J engines.

so you ask, "why dont you drop a nice 6-speed tranny in there to fix that right up?" thats like saying im going to drop the 55 motor in my W202... yes, its been done before, yes it would make it much faster, but for that much money, its simply not practical.

no one is "underestimating" the POTENTIAL of the Accord.
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Originally Posted by ricerokets4life
youre right the J engines can have FI. although rare, it can happen. however, like i stated before, the FUNDAMENTAL FLAW with the 6th (98-01) and some 7th gen (02+) V6 Accords is the fact that it is mated to a poorly built auto tranny. that is why FI upgrades are so rare for the J series engines as opposed to B, K and even H series engines. why do you think it took 3 years for Comptech, the tuner to Honda - like what Renntech is to Mercedes, to R&D a supercharger for the J30A1 motor? to this day, its the only aftermarket FI Kit you can purchase. other than that, its all custom jobs.
True. The auto tranny from Honda is known to have problems in the accord and in the acura cl/tl line. As a owner of an Acura CL Type-S, I was waiting for Comptech's S/C and they took so long due to issues with the high CR of the engine and what you mentioned the tranny. They decided to include/strongly recommend a tranny cooler to reduce the risk of failure. HKS had a prototype turbo kit for the accord, but that got pulled due to tranny failure.

there is no such thing as a Turbo Kit for the J engines.
There are 2 custom turbo'd J32 engines running in socal mated with a 6 speed.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ide/index.html

In regard to the 6MT, I didnt mean a swap, but if it was a 2003+ model then the 6sp tranny would hold up with FI.
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didn't know Accord has the coupe
It's also called a 209 lol
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Originally Posted by ronnie0738


There are 2 custom turbo'd J32 engines running in socal mated with a 6 speed.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ide/index.html

In regard to the 6MT, I didnt mean a swap, but if it was a 2003+ model then the 6sp tranny would hold up with FI.
like i said, there is no such thing as a Turbo Kit for the J engines. you even said it yourself, "there are 2 CUSTOM" ones.
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