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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

Dealer just got word from the mercedes big wigs that the 320 will be replaced by the ML 350 in about 3 months time...car will have about 35 more hp
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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That's odd - you say it will happen by the year's end. Does that mean that it will switch mid-model year. So you could have an '03 320 or an '03 350?
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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yeap seems so infact

i have the ML 350 option sheet and color matrix, hope to post soon
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

The new ML350 will have 229 HP and 258 lb ft of torque as compared to the ML320 at 215 and 240, respectively.

Look for a '03 M-Class "Inspiration" Edition for the ML350 and ML500 starting November production.

Obsidian Black will be back later in the year, too, replacing the low demand Orion Blue. ...RAB

Originally posted by nabzy
Dealer just got word from the mercedes big wigs that the 320 will be replaced by the ML 350 in about 3 months time...car will have about 35 more hp

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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Robert - don't you mean 215 HP for the ML320? I think you just transposed the digits (I catch myself doing that all the time). I'm sure my '98 is rated at 215 HP but I'm not sure about later years.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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Thanks, I made the correction. I've a good excuse:

I spent a few hours Sunday at the NeoWerkes.com European Tuner Challenge and practically fryed my brain. My M-B showed 112 in the parking lot so I decided to go home and have ice cream with my wife. She was surprised I came home early until I told her I think I was the oldest guy there. ...RAB


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Robert - don't you mean 215 HP for the ML320? I think you just transposed the digits (I catch myself doing that all the time). I'm sure my '98 is rated at 215 HP but I'm not sure about later years.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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RAB...any idea

in what goes into this "inspiration model"
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

Originally posted by Robert ...RAB
The new ML350 will have 229 HP and 258 lb ft of torque as compared to the ML320 at 215 and 240, respectively.

Look for a '03 M-Class "Inspiration" Edition for the ML350 and ML500 starting November production.

Obsidian Black will be back later in the year, too, replacing the low demand Orion Blue. ...RAB


Robert,

can you please check your numbers? The ML 350 should have 240 hp and 258 lb-ft compared to the ML 320 with 215 hp and 229 lb-ft.

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

I checked the official notification from MBUSA and my figures are correct as they have publiched them. These figures are SAE. ...RAB

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Robert,

can you please check your numbers? The ML 350 should have 240 hp and 258 lb-ft compared to the ML 320 with 215 hp and 229 lb-ft.

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

Originally posted by Robert ...RAB
I checked the official notification from MBUSA and my figures are correct as they have published them. These figures are SAE. ...RAB

Robert,

thank you! Compared to the predecessor the ML 350 then gains only 14 hp but 29 lb-ft whereas the S 350 gains 20 hp and 26 lb-ft. It appears the ML as off-roader focusses more on torque than power. Good news.

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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

Robert,

it now turns out those numbers from MBUSA were in error as we suspected. Here are the correct numbers:

<a href="http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/071002_ML350_and_SE_Release.pdf"> ML 350 and ML 55 AMG released (pdf)</a>

The ML 350 thus has 240 SAE hp and 258 lb-ft, gaining 25 SAE hp and 29 lb-ft! Onwards and upwards!

Wolfgang
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

Dyslexia is a common symptom of being over-worked and in too much of a hurry to proof read. I read the numbers from the same *.pdf document twice and still got them wrong. I need a vacation.

Ich danke Ihnen, ...RAB

Originally posted by ml320
Robert,
it now turns out those numbers from MBUSA were in error as we suspected. Here are the correct numbers:

The ML 350 thus has 240 SAE hp and 258 lb-ft, gaining 25 SAE hp and 29 lb-ft! Onwards and upwards!

Wolfgang
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ML350 to replace ML 320 by the end of the year

You are welcome. And thanks for the FJ loyalty coupon I received today. Pondering the options now.

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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 12:24 AM
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Here is the official word from MB:

MB .pdf on ML

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And the ML 350 V6 is 3.7L . So why not call it ML370 ? ( Or S 370, E 370 , etc. for that matter ). Marketing departments ...
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 12:32 PM
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FYI,

I would say, "You're Welcome" except I don't reside at FJ anymore. I'm now the Fleet Manager at Long Beach M-B. ...RAB

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And thanks for the FJ loyalty coupon I received today.

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