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Comments from an MB rep:
"New ML is 166 body, higher belt line, safer feel in cockpit, better center console, true cool 36 degrees and heat 136 degrees in temperature controlled cup holders. Rear of ML is sleeker and cargo area is same including cut outs for golf bags loaded cross ways. No exposed tailpipes."
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"A few reports have suggested that a diesel-electric hybrid ML-Class is in the works, although a gasoline-electric hybrid like that in the upcoming ML450 Hybrid is almost certain. A plug-in variant of the ML hybrid is even possible, featuring an 80-horsepower electric motor paired with a twin-turbocharged and direct-injected 3.5-liter V-6 and capable of travelling up to 18-miles on electric power alone is also thought to be in the works.
That plug-in hybrid system will draw on elements from the other hybrid programs within Mercedes, including the S400 powertrain. But other elements, including parts and underpinnings, will be shared more closely across the R-Class successor and G-Class vehicles to help achieve economies of scale while still maintaining separate identities. The chassis underpinning the new SUV is also the same design found in the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee, one of the lasting legacies from the now defunct DaimlerChrysler.
The ML’s dominant position as the consumer 4x4 of choice within Mercedes' lineup won't change, though the focus will increasingly be on efficiency rather than performance. Accordingly, European models will likely get a 2.2-liter four-cylinder diesel engine rated at 204 horsepower. A V-6 diesel rated at 225 horsepower and a 333 horsepower V-6 gasoline engine is also thought to be in the plans. The V-8 engine will gain direct-injection and twin-turbochargers for the AMG model, which is expected to deliver at least 570 horsepower from its 5.5-liters of displacement." Motor Authority"
That plug-in hybrid system will draw on elements from the other hybrid programs within Mercedes, including the S400 powertrain. But other elements, including parts and underpinnings, will be shared more closely across the R-Class successor and G-Class vehicles to help achieve economies of scale while still maintaining separate identities. The chassis underpinning the new SUV is also the same design found in the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee, one of the lasting legacies from the now defunct DaimlerChrysler.
The ML’s dominant position as the consumer 4x4 of choice within Mercedes' lineup won't change, though the focus will increasingly be on efficiency rather than performance. Accordingly, European models will likely get a 2.2-liter four-cylinder diesel engine rated at 204 horsepower. A V-6 diesel rated at 225 horsepower and a 333 horsepower V-6 gasoline engine is also thought to be in the plans. The V-8 engine will gain direct-injection and twin-turbochargers for the AMG model, which is expected to deliver at least 570 horsepower from its 5.5-liters of displacement." Motor Authority"
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mmmm
the grand cherokee has the same chassis that will come in the ml w166? i guess that the Jeep cost less but it's also a base, like a beta tester for the mercedes, all the trouble discovered in the jeep will not be found in the new ML..
velociraptor, can you confirm what i said?
otherways i go tomorrow to buy the jeep and save 20.000 euro...and pratically have the new ML before it go to the dealer...
someone know about off road pack or thing like that?
the grand cherokee has the same chassis that will come in the ml w166? i guess that the Jeep cost less but it's also a base, like a beta tester for the mercedes, all the trouble discovered in the jeep will not be found in the new ML..
velociraptor, can you confirm what i said?
otherways i go tomorrow to buy the jeep and save 20.000 euro...and pratically have the new ML before it go to the dealer...
someone know about off road pack or thing like that?
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W166
mmmm
the grand cherokee has the same chassis that will come in the ml w166? i guess that the Jeep cost less but it's also a base, like a beta tester for the mercedes, all the trouble discovered in the jeep will not be found in the new ML..
velociraptor, can you confirm what i said?
otherways i go tomorrow to buy the jeep and save 20.000 euro...and practically have the new ML before it go to the dealer...
someone know about off road pack or thing like that?
the grand cherokee has the same chassis that will come in the ml w166? i guess that the Jeep cost less but it's also a base, like a beta tester for the mercedes, all the trouble discovered in the jeep will not be found in the new ML..
velociraptor, can you confirm what i said?
otherways i go tomorrow to buy the jeep and save 20.000 euro...and practically have the new ML before it go to the dealer...
someone know about off road pack or thing like that?
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oh..understood...was getting really interessed in the grand cherokee...HELL! HOW IS AWFUL INSIDE! looks really bad... MB ML forever!..even the jeep about of road is really good, and also about confort.