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Old 04-15-2021, 09:33 PM
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my ML has a different one I think, and does weigh more than yours as it’s the AMG and uses a similar rating. (Speed and width different but weight too). Let me get back to you on whag it says on tire.
this is my go to always for checking anything. As long as you have a w164

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalAssets/pdfmb/ownersmanual/2008_ml320_ml350_ml550_ml63.pdf

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These guys here below (see link) have found successes with Toyo, I personally would go with the pilot sport and stay away from Pirellis especially with an ML. Contis, Michelin or General or even a lesser known brand (same damn tire and made by Michelin, same factory just different label) is the subsidiary, brand, is the Uniroyals. Great tire. Half the cost of Michelin’s. Same tire. No one can convince me otherwise.

https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w...ire-ml350.html

and read this article for cheaper versions of German approved brands in the subsidiary brands. See the photo screenshot. Interesting isn’t it?

https://tiresvote.com/articles/subsi...app1%26hl%3Den

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This is very interesting....
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the continental brand name is a great product. I’m not sure which Merc you put these on but if it’s the ML (they came with in the W164 Continental from Tuscaloosa, on) snd I cannot remember the model. The Michelin’s are a step down from the OE continentals and again cannot remember their model but I just put a brand new set of them on and they are amazing. In wet weather and with the high winds we have had for the last two weeks in Chicago the ML 63 I drive has been straight and unwavering. Pun intended. Confirm with your dealer or do some research on which set up from Michelin’s, that belong on your car.

if I’m not mistaken, merc is still putting these on their new vehicles.
Never stated that Continental is not a good product, as I do agree that it is. (My daughter is running Conti's on her E46 BMW and they are great). I said that the Cross Contact LX25 is junk, at least in my opinion after running it on my ML for 4 months/2300 miles.

As I am posting on the W164 forum, I am obviously referring to the ML. The Thread also reads "Best tires for the ML 4MATIC", so the Conti's went on my ML.

As I had mentioned, I never had bad luck with Michelins. For you stating that Michelins are a step down from the Conti's (after me just explaining that I have a major issue with this type of Continental tire), can only be your opinion, which you are entitled to.

If you just put an AMAZING set of Conti's on your truck, it might be helpful to know which model you installed.

Thanks for the heads up in regards to checking with my dealer and doing my research. In most cases I do my own research, as the dealer does not always have the latest and most accurate information, especially on a 13 year old model. The Michelin tire I have selected is recommended for the W164.
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Originally Posted by E55Greasemonkey
Are your Conti's designated as an XL (Extra Load) tire? Our ML's are heavy and require an XL tire.
YES, the Continental Extreme Contact is an "XL" tire, so is the MICHELIN PRIMACY I am going to install.
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this is my go to always for checking anything. As long as you have a w164

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...ml550_ml63.pdf
Thanks very much. I do have a manual and know how to read it.
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Thanks very much. I do have a manual and know how to read it.

hey pal, your sarcasm is cheeky at best and duly noted. Just trying to help out, buddy.

I checked my and my wife’s ML63 AMG and they appear to be SportContact 6 also available too, in a different ML equivalent.

in the meantime I’ll drive my 991 911 Speedster, while the rest of the world gets on with their days. Good luck to you sir.
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in the meantime I’ll drive my 991 911 Speedster, while the rest of the world gets on with their days. Good luck to you sir.
You da' man!

Too bad you do not have near you what this car was built for, ......... The Autobahn
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You da' man!

Too bad you do not have near you what this car was built for, ......... The Autobahn
True, though, while in Germany in 2019 getting this car from factory, I was able to drive one of their GT 2 RS’s owned by one of the factory Porsche Car Cup teams on the Nordschleife, and I kind of make my own down Kennedy Xpress into work when it’s wide open.
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True, though, while in Germany in 2019 getting this car from factory, I was able to drive one of their GT 2 RS’s owned by one of the factory Porsche Car Cup teams on the Nordschleife, and I kind of make my own down Kennedy Xpress into work when it’s wide open.
sweet!!!!
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That is EXACTLY what I am talking about.
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sweet!!!!

you and I had very similar concerns with our tire choicice. I hope I was able to help is all. And if your in northwest Chicago suburbs your welcome to message me and I’ll show you what good tires will do for your car and maybe even let you drive the Porsche..... jk my wife is afraid of it. Won’t get no where near or in it. Once was enough
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you and I had very similar concerns with our tire choice. I hope I was able to help is all. And if your in northwest Chicago suburbs your welcome to message me and I’ll show you what good tires will do for your car and maybe even let you drive the Porsche..... jk my wife is afraid of it. Won’t get no where near or in it. Once was enough
Thanks very much for the offer.

As a true German, immigrating from Germany at age 25 to CA, I should be Porsche WORTHY. No need to be scared of a fast car, as long as one knows how to drive, right?

You will let me drive this amazing Automobile built approx. 20 miles north from where I grew up, and I will buy you some good Beer afterwards! Of course, you would need to determine the location for GOOD Beer in your neck of the woods. CHEERS.
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Thanks very much for the offer.

As a true German, immigrating from Germany at age 25 to CA, I should be Porsche WORTHY. No need to be scared of a fast car, as long as one knows how to drive, right?

You will let me drive this amazing Automobile built approx. 20 miles north from where I grew up, and I will buy you some good Beer afterwards! Of course, you would need to determine the location for GOOD Beer in your neck of the woods. CHEERS.
That’s incredible awesome my last name is Schultz I am third-generation German and Austrian my grandparents immigrated and left and fled **** Germany in 1939. I am the first in my family to have gone to university and graduated with a post doctorate degree in a jurist doctorate from university of Chicago.

I love my German cars can’t convince me that there’s anyone that’s better made. I’ve seen them put them together I know the quality of the parts they make and the people in the integrity behind them
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I love my German cars can’t convince me that there’s anyone that’s better made. I’ve seen them put them together I know the quality of the parts they make and the people in the integrity behind them
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck with the tires today. Das beste oder nichts!
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good luck with the tires today. Das beste oder nichts!
Vielen Dank! Recht hast Du! Nur das BESTE.

She used to sing "Oh Lord won't you buy me a Chevrolet", ..................... Until one night the Lord enlightened her and she changed the song! The rest is history!
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Vielen Dank! Recht hast Du! Nur das BESTE.

She used to sing "Oh Lord won't you buy me a Chevrolet", ..................... Until one night the Lord enlightened her and she changed the song! The rest is history!
Brings back memories. Of some sort.

good one yeah I don’t bring that up at the moment, sore subject in my house right now, apparently she wants a GMC Acadia what kind of SHIZZA Scheißkiste!, is that I said.

she doesn’t know it but I already put a down payment on a new one for a trade-in with the ML 550, for a GLE

I may need to crash atom someone’s couch for a while here any recommendations.
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Not a 2020-2021 GLE I hope. They are still plagued with problems.
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Not a 2020-2021 GLE I hope. They are still plagued with problems.
really? I would’ve thought otherwise with it being a couple years old now. no, actually though, looking at the GLS (a 2k19, used from loaner program car). Real gooooood price. From my local dealer I know very well.

but I’ll keep that in mind. Curious, what’s wrong? I still think they need to put that 2 L four-cylinder that they have in the believe in CLAMG into the midsize and even I would say GLE maybe not GLS but that motor incredible
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I have to add that the GL wheels seem like a good deal in 18", especially since the style is so very OE correct, and the quality is high.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-2008-M...4/333617816552

I put my set together for under $700 total, but whatever, a $1000 for a nice set with new decent tires like the Uniroyals or Kumho seems like a step in the right direction.

I fully expect an improvement in steering feel, ride, handling and a cushier ride, all from the reduced mass, and more narrow tread, thicker sidewall, etc etc....tires 1/2 the price of 20" with better selection is a bonus going forward; I'll toss on some 15mm spacers too.

Probably put my 20" set on ice until I sell the ML so I don't have to worry about putting $1000 tires on it to trade in or whatever.
We need an update? Howd it go at tire place, what’s on the 20’s now?
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Thanks very much for the offer.

As a true German, immigrating from Germany at age 25 to CA, I should be Porsche WORTHY. No need to be scared of a fast car, as long as one knows how to drive, right?

You will let me drive this amazing Automobile built approx. 20 miles north from where I grew up, and I will buy you some good Beer afterwards! Of course, you would need to determine the location for GOOD Beer in your neck of the woods. CHEERS.
I am a trained driver I can assure you of that. I did dedicate a summer to getting professional advisement and worked several months behind the wheel of other fast cars before I even took delivery of the Porsche (though it wasn’t and won’t be my last “gas” car). Lol. No my wife just doesn’t like feeling acceleration or anything that makes loud noises. My kids think it’s great and love daddy’s car, and neighbors all have even more $$$$$ than I do. I feel poor when I drive past their houses and cars.

she drives it very safe and I mean she just doesn’t want to push gas pedal past 1/10th it’s cavitation or depth.
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OK, after 2300 miles, I have determined that the CONTINENTAL Cross Contact LX25's are junk!!!!!!!!
  • At Highway Speeds, the truck feels like it is “Swerving”, which gives a very uncomfortable feeling. (I need to take extra care and hold on to the wheel).
  • The tires are also pretty loud, compared to what I am used to.
I NEVER experienced anything like this in all my years of putting Michelins on my cars. Guess I should have followed my instincts and go with Michelin in the first place. ☹ The truck had an alignment done immediately after the tires were installed, as well as most front suspension components were replaced.

With that said, the Continentals will come off tomorrow and I am going back to Michelin. Hoping the MICHELIN PRIMACY TOUR A/S will provide a much better ride quality than these Conti's did.


MICHELIN PRIMACY TOUR A/S

The Michelins went on the ML this afternoon. So far so good. However, only drove home from the tire store, so I cannot give a verdict just yet.

Driving on the freeway will tell the real story.
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Although I've owned most every decent all-season tire known to mankind, my only frame of reference on the ML is the fresh Pirelli Scorpion Verde Plus II that came on it in 20". It looks as if Tire Rack survey likes them the best....



Hard to disagree that they are spectacular; quiet and do everything I ask of them. I took a break from Pirelli since the 1990s, with sidewall bubbles being common. However, last Fall, I bought some P7s for a different car, which worked out great.

My most basic tire strategy is 2 sets of all-seasons; a good set for winter and a set of smokers for summer. Swap and adjust them for more or less duty, mainly that my good set doesn't see hot summer pavement, they get stored. It works great, I always have enough tread and never have to throw out half worn tires, I just use them for summer smokers.

In this case, I went to 18"s for my 2nd set, being unhappy with the vast selection of 17" and 18" wheels I already had, I bought some GL wheels that are perfect. For them I bought some Destination LE3, used like new for $265/set....a record breaking price for this forum 245/60-18. So, being my Pirellis are 20", I'll use the 18" Firestones for winter. Highway all season category is one step closer to a real truck tire, which is more durable and in this case, they handle great. If you read the reviews, Cayenne guys love them for the 3-4x longer wear than the street performance tires we are used to.

Anyway, that's the plan. I'm just getting used to my H&R spring set, and am sure that the 18" will be much welcomed by the late fall.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/types...t.jsp?perf=HAS

I'll link the LE2 instead of LE3s, since there's a lot of reviews and a staff test.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...stination+LE+2

I have them on my Metris





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