Tony007

I am looking for a part number for the Euro version left and right 2012 ML63 headlights. I have a MY13 on order and I want to swap them so I don't have to look at all that amber in there.

Thanks

lboudreau

No... he's talking about the amber fiber optic bar in the headlamp.

GregW / Oregon

He's talking about the amber fiber optic strip and amber reflector.

This:



Vs.:

Vancity

I was thinking of changing them when I got my truck before even the months waiting I was hoping that they would be white instead of amber. But since then they have grown on me somewhat...

But still Would anyone know approximately how much the Euro lights would cost?

GregW / Oregon

Just a WAG, but I would think over $1k for the two assemblies alone. However, there would be a large market for reselling your stock ones once the ancillary components necessary for retrofitting to halgoen-equipped vehicles can be figured out.

lboudreau

I agree.... possibly even $1K each.

jchochla

I wonder if amber is just a build or it could possibly be a LED strip. In the BMW's, the angel eyes have small bulbs you can swap for any colors you like.

GregW / Oregon

My guess is the fiber optic "light pipe" is the same and just the LED is a different color. Whether the LED is accessible is a question. It may well be within the sealed headlight assembly.

lboudreau

I think the OP could use the xenon headlamp from the 350 and 550 in europe as well, they will all have the white color. I think the ML63 headlamp unit may come at a price premium just because it is an AMG vehicle.

GregW / Oregon

True, they should all be the same.

YYZ-E55

This is tough because there are many variants of the headlights (with/without Night View Assist, with/without ILS (Europe only), right hand vs left hand drive, etc.)

As far as I can see:

NAFTA Headlamps:
A 166 820 51 61 - Left
A 166 820 52 61 - Right

Euro Headlamps (with code 621 ILS for left-hand traffic, without 610 night vision):
A 166 820 61 61 - Left
A 166 820 62 61 - Right

Euro Headlamps (with code 621 ILS for left-hand traffic, with 610 night vision):
A 166 820 65 61 - Left
A 166 820 66 61 - Right

Again, I have no idea if these parts will work... they simply appear to be the best match based on what I see in EPC.

jtorrebl

Hopefully the led is accessible for a swap. Problem then is the LEDs bulbs available are usually bluish white vs pure white.
Op could also be talking about the amber plastic in the lateral side of the headlight

GregW / Oregon

You can get coated LED chips that produce pure white. The amber plastic is the reflector, that probably cannot be removed.

jtorrebl

It can be removed but requires heating and taking the headlight apart. You need lots of experience and guts to do it. I would never do it.

jweezy

1,000 would be very cheap. Guys headlights are EXPENSIVE!

We needed new headlights for our BMW a couple months back - $3,500 installed and much computer work that only BMW could do. (bi-xenon and directional).

lboudreau

So those euro headlamps... would those have a beam dip on the right side? So they can be used for vehicles that drive on the left side of the road? If so, there must be a part number for the headlamps they use in Germany... they drive on the same side as we do.

jcs007

Hey y'all

I too am looking for e-code headlamps for my '12 ML320BT. HOWEVER, I'm looking more for the euro left-hand drive headlight pattern as it is far superior than the U.S. spec and looks better too.

In reading my owner's manual, it almost reads that a MB technician can CHANGE the headlamps from left-hand drive to right-hand drive?!?! Is it possible that there is an adjustable plate to go from U.S. spec to LHD or RHD without purchasing new headlamp assemblies? The part numbers above seem to suggest no...

Any help I would greatly appreciate it.

John

AMG ME

Just wondering if any of you made the swap to Euro headlights yet? This is a must do modification for me once I pick up my ML. I don't think there is an LED light or light pipe like the BMW's on the Euro version ML headlights. Maybe just on the North American version. If you look at the North American headlight it has a single solid amber strip. The European version looks like a series if individual amber LED's which look much better to me as well. If I can get the parts I wondering if I need to take it to MB for some coding. Hopefully the plugs are the same as well.

North American Solid Amber Strip


VS

Euro Individual Amber LED's

ipp

My Euro-spec ML has a option in the instrument cluster were I can change from left-hand drive to right-hand drive myself.

Maybe there is no hardware difference between LHD and RHD lights if you have ILS?

stas2007

Are you sure this picture is not euro with Hazards on? I though that the only difference between usa and euro is the orange reflector on the side and the eyebrows are white led.

GregW / Oregon

Exactly. US would look the same in that mode.

AMG ME

Yes those are the hazards since both sides are lit. However I believe those are also the signals as well. I'm assuming they are white until you signal and they change to amber. I think they are using a multi colored LED's.

GregW / Oregon

No, just like the US model, those are amber only and function for turn signals and hazard flashers. The linear LED optic below it is amber for North America and amber for the ROW.

AMG ME

I'm sure you guys are right because you have one in the driveway. Still got to wait for mine. I'm still confused though as to what's exactly different and the same. I'll have to find one to look at in real life.

YYZ-E55

The only differences between the euro and NAFTA headlamps (aside from ILS and left vs right-hand beam) are:

1) torch/parking lamp is amber in NA, white in ROW, but uses the same lighting technology and design
2) reflector is amber in NA, clear in ROW

As others pointed out, the photo of the euro ML above has its hazard lights on. Those are not the torch lights.