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2013 ML 350 - 18" Wheels for Snow Tires??

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Old 10-03-2012, 02:16 PM
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I ran Blizzaks on my W164. They took me anywhere I had enough guts to go. I am opting for the Blizzak DM-V1 245/55/19.
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Originally Posted by airunner
I was initially looking for 18"s as my winter tires and worked with my SA (very professional and easy to deal with) to get an original MB wheels.

The dealership was advised by MB Canada that 18"s cannot be put on W166 because of the AMG styling (not sure if it is cosmetic or issue with clearance on the brake components) but they are okay with 19"s from the W164.

I ended up getting this with Pirelli Ice & Snow.


So did you end up with a set of 19" in wheels from a 2011 ML?
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So did you end up with a set of 19" in wheels from a 2011 ML?
Yes. It is ready and in storage at my dealership.
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Which 19" wheels do you have? Any of these?


Have you actually bolted them on to see if they work (fit with clearance)?
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Originally Posted by frtdog
I ran Blizzaks on my W164. They took me anywhere I had enough guts to go. I am opting for the Blizzak DM-V1 245/55/19.
Frtdog do u have the amg version of the ml? Just curious because I was also looking at the dmv's, and although their loading rating is good, they only have a V speed rating.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
The AMG Exterior package does not alter the brakes, so I find this suspect.
IIRC it does - I believe code 772 includes a caliper cover. Will report back.
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Post Winter tire ratings

Originally Posted by JAN8OR
Frtdog do u have the amg version of the ml? Just curious because I was also looking at the dmv's, and although their loading rating is good, they only have a V speed rating.
Actually, the service desciption is 103R, only rated to 106 mph. By contrast, the Pirelli Scorpions have a 107 load rating and H or V speed rating.
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Originally Posted by misra
I'm very interested as I just bought (but haven't received) 18" wheels from a w164 to put on my 2012 w166. I might have to check everything in two weeks rather then in late Nov/early Dec when I was planning to install.

18" is what TireRack is also recommending with 255/55R18.

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You may be okay with 18"s. TireRack's recommendation is based on US models. One of the differences between the US and Canadian models are the brakes. Canadians get the slotted rotors and calipers with the MB name on it. What I'm not sure is if the parts dimensions are the same for both models.
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No I do not have the AMG. And as I will probably never exceed 80 the tire speed rating is just fine.
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Originally Posted by iankayem
Which 19" wheels do you have? Any of these?


Have you actually bolted them on to see if they work (fit with clearance)?
I got the one pictured above (post #20). Haven't tried it yet but I'm not worried as it is MB recommended. Will book an appointment to put the new shoes on around end of October.
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Originally Posted by YYZ-E55
IIRC it does - I believe code 772 includes a caliper cover. Will report back.
Brakes do get changed they switch to the vented and crossdrilled soIi think they are thicker then std at least at the rear.
if that helps. And as you say the MB cover on the caliper
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
I've had the Scorpion Ice & Snow on my W164, as well. They perform pretty well. I'm trying the new Scorpion Winter this time, though (just ordered from The Tire Rack).

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....corpion+Winter


WINTER even better as I understand.

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Originally Posted by dougiebear
WINTER even better as I understand.
Well, it's V rated vs. H, but I'm just trying it because it's new.
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19" W164 Wheels work on 2012+ ML350's (Not the ML550) Some w164 wheels have the 21mm lug bolt and some have the 48mm bolts. So watch for that. You can see the size of the ML550 brake package so not much will work for that or ones with the same brake upgrade.
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How do you like them so far?
I will pick this week between the P Scorp Winter and the Mich Latitude X Ice I2
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Pirelli Scorpion Winter

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How do you like them so far?
I will pick this week between the P Scorp Winter and the Mich Latitude X Ice I2
They're mounted and ready to go, but won't put them on until I need them (snow or ice predicted). I can change wheels in about half an hour, so I may just run them in the crappiest weather.

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Any Luck with the w164 18"s

Originally Posted by misra
I'm very interested as I just bought (but haven't received) 18" wheels from a w164 to put on my 2012 w166. I might have to check everything in two weeks rather then in late Nov/early Dec when I was planning to install.

18" is what TireRack is also recommending with 255/55R18.

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Hi Mark -

Did you have any luck with the w164 18" on the 2012? I'm trying to do the same exact thing 255 55 18 but have called a bunch of dealers and they are concerned with the caliper clearance as everybody else was!

thanks,
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Finally got to test the rims on the MY13 W166

W164 18" (R38) and W164 17" (R44) both fit on my car. The clearance is minimal on the 17" with wheel weights missing the caliper by less than 2mm.

I have purchased the 17"s for next to nix, now I have to find some short bolts, and order the tyres. But the tyres can wait until the demand for Canada has died down, maybe in February/March.

I was concerned about the statement from the Nokian dealer saying that the W164 wheels will not fit. When I look close at the options list, I notice the EX1 pack(ML250) and SP1 pack have "Sports perforated disc brakes with caliper cover". This may be what has caused the interference.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
They're mounted and ready to go, but won't put them on until I need them (snow or ice predicted). I can change wheels in about half an hour, so I may just run them in the crappiest weather.
Mounted them up Saturday. Now if it would just get cold (still hasn't been below freezing here) or I'll need to head to Mt. Hood to try them out.
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We take delivery tomorrow at 2:00 of a ml350btc with 265/45 R 20 tires They are supposed to be all-season. Is there a winter tire that fits these rims or do I need to buy smaller rims, if so what size? and for that matter what size of tire (winter).

It has been so long since I've had a merc. and do not recall much about them. It was a TD300.
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Winter tyres are available in all rim sizes. You can fit 17" through to 21" rims on your car PROVIDED you do not have the optional brake caliper covers.
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Originally Posted by Kaasmann
... with 265/45 R 20 tires They are supposed to be all-season. Is there a winter tire that fits these rims... (winter).
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Mine arrived with Pirelli Scorpion Verde that looks not available M+S in these dimensions so I've been forced to buy a new set of Pirelli Scorpion Winter (M+S+*).
Not yet tested on snow & ice but, so far, I can confirm that the feeling is very good on both wet and dry tarmac, being very silent as well.
The choice is yours, it depends on where you drive. Here in Italy it's mandatory the winter equipment from Nov.15th to Apr.15. I couldn't afford half a year without my 20's.
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Here is our one week old ML350 BLUETEC with 18" Dunlop Wintersport M3. Don't know the width of the tires actually. The car runs VERY quiet and smooth with this setup.

The look of the wheels is not very exiting, but they are ok. Will look better in the spring with the AMG-package wheels.
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Btw. my dealer said that 17" does not fit vehicles with sport package.


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