Trailer Lights Blinking
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2014 ML350 BlueTec
Trailer Lights Blinking
We have a 2014 ML350 BlueTec with the towing option. We picked up our 2014 Lance travel trailer today. All went well except for one thing. The trailer lights all work great. But when the ML is turned off the trailer running lights (all LEDS) blink faintly. They are not bright when doing this. Very faint but blinking and the pace of the blinking seems to change. When I disconnect the electric connection between the trailer and the ML the blinking stops.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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Just took mine in local Benz shop,they were as helpful as a hemroid! Claimed the trailer lights had to be the non-led! Took the trailer and Benz to the local trailer shop. They ordered the following from tow ready - 20141! They said the LED don't draw as much current as the old bulbs did and thus throw the electrics into a tail spin. Will post an update when the part comes in.
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Excited to hear about the 2141 device. I tried a similar device made by Curt (C57003) but it did not solve the faint blinking. This looks much more compact. If your 2141 works that would be great! I'd need the 2142 which is 7 pin to 7 pin.
Thanks for posting!
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We had a 2012 VW Touareg That I used the same trailer with same 7 to 4 adapter and it worked fine. The VW had a whole host of stuff that happened when you plugged anything in to the socket.
The second I plugged the adapter in the Benz, the electrics went nuts. It does shut down the blind spot detection. I found that in the owners manual. That's OK as it would give it a false reading if it did work!
The trailer shop ordered the adapter that Curt says will work. It will be here in a few days. They said they never saw this before. They said they have Mercedes in here all the time.
The second I plugged the adapter in the Benz, the electrics went nuts. It does shut down the blind spot detection. I found that in the owners manual. That's OK as it would give it a false reading if it did work!
The trailer shop ordered the adapter that Curt says will work. It will be here in a few days. They said they never saw this before. They said they have Mercedes in here all the time.
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2014 ML350 BlueTec
We had a 2012 VW Touareg That I used the same trailer with same 7 to 4 adapter and it worked fine. The VW had a whole host of stuff that happened when you plugged anything in to the socket.
The second I plugged the adapter in the Benz, the electrics went nuts. It does shut down the blind spot detection. I found that in the owners manual. That's OK as it would give it a false reading if it did work!
The trailer shop ordered the adapter that Curt says will work. It will be here in a few days. They said they never saw this before. They said they have Mercedes in here all the time.
The second I plugged the adapter in the Benz, the electrics went nuts. It does shut down the blind spot detection. I found that in the owners manual. That's OK as it would give it a false reading if it did work!
The trailer shop ordered the adapter that Curt says will work. It will be here in a few days. They said they never saw this before. They said they have Mercedes in here all the time.
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I took the GL to my local Mercedes dealer. They acted like they had never seen the issue before. Recommended that I take the LED lights off the trailer. WTF would I do that for? These people are idiots from the word go in the first place. End of story! Sent me packing!
I called another dealer, they did not have the adapter but advised etrailer.com with help. He did know of the problem. He said all they sold were recycled ones they bought at one time but no longer carry them.
etrailer was of no help! Everything was canned responses back! I've had the same canned response before on other issues!
Took the trailer and the Benz to a local trailer shop. They had never seen the issue before and sell trailers to people with Mercedes, VW and Audi all the time with no issues and LED lights.
They ordered the adapter as they did not have it in stock. They said I would not be responsible for the cost if it did not work. They were just as curious about it as I was. No charge as well for the help!
We had a 2012 VW Touareg, using the same trailer and 7 to 4 adapter with no problems. Apparently at one time they had some issues too. A software update solved the problem. Hum...
The adapter I have has small LED lights built in test lights. Before I even hook up the trailer that's going nuts. I have two different styles of that 7-4 adapter and they both got nuts before the trailer is added to the picture. I suspect its the GL and not the LED lights on the trailer.
If it still does it after the adapter comes in I'm marching back over to Mercedes with a attitude and demand an answer and a fix! 100% total BS!
I've never seen such a crap in all my life.
I called another dealer, they did not have the adapter but advised etrailer.com with help. He did know of the problem. He said all they sold were recycled ones they bought at one time but no longer carry them.
etrailer was of no help! Everything was canned responses back! I've had the same canned response before on other issues!
Took the trailer and the Benz to a local trailer shop. They had never seen the issue before and sell trailers to people with Mercedes, VW and Audi all the time with no issues and LED lights.
They ordered the adapter as they did not have it in stock. They said I would not be responsible for the cost if it did not work. They were just as curious about it as I was. No charge as well for the help!
We had a 2012 VW Touareg, using the same trailer and 7 to 4 adapter with no problems. Apparently at one time they had some issues too. A software update solved the problem. Hum...
The adapter I have has small LED lights built in test lights. Before I even hook up the trailer that's going nuts. I have two different styles of that 7-4 adapter and they both got nuts before the trailer is added to the picture. I suspect its the GL and not the LED lights on the trailer.
If it still does it after the adapter comes in I'm marching back over to Mercedes with a attitude and demand an answer and a fix! 100% total BS!
I've never seen such a crap in all my life.
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Well... if you have a 5 or 4-pin trailer hook up w/LED trailer lights - yes - you have the wrong adapter.
For your GL-to-5/4-pin-LED you need Tow Ready 20141 - and so you know the 20141 has a resistor built-into the circuit that gives your GL the right "load" to recognize the circuit.
Others have mistaken adapter's that have LED tester lights - which have nothing to do with LED trailer lights - means those adapters would work on their MB.
Internet shopping - check shipping charges - but all-in-all you can score the correct 20141 for under $16..
A 20141 is not often stocked at local stores - might be - but rarer to find on the shelf.
Not all Mercedes dealers have towing experience - and not all trailer hitch guys have Mercedes experience - but from what you describe you have a $16 solution..
For your GL-to-5/4-pin-LED you need Tow Ready 20141 - and so you know the 20141 has a resistor built-into the circuit that gives your GL the right "load" to recognize the circuit.
Others have mistaken adapter's that have LED tester lights - which have nothing to do with LED trailer lights - means those adapters would work on their MB.
Internet shopping - check shipping charges - but all-in-all you can score the correct 20141 for under $16..
A 20141 is not often stocked at local stores - might be - but rarer to find on the shelf.
Not all Mercedes dealers have towing experience - and not all trailer hitch guys have Mercedes experience - but from what you describe you have a $16 solution..
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I didn't get an answer to my question but now I'm wondering if the tow vehicle has LED lights if that makes a difference with the trailer. I have a new trailer with LED's that I haven't towed yet. Soon I'll get a chance to actually try it but thought someone might have an answer.
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They have ordered the Tow Ready 20141 adapter. It's basically what I have except it has a built in resistor to handle the LED trailer lights. I've not got it yet to see if it's the cure all for the problem. As soon as I have the part I'll report back.
As far as I can tell it looks to be a hit and miss problem. The trailer worked on my GL450 fine, but not my GL550. Software, hardware issue, don't know? Mercedes was not helpful at all at least the servicing dealer! The selling dealer knew of the problem but did not have a solution!
It's a OEM factory hitch and harness so go figure. I've not cut into, spliced or have tampered with any of the electrics. The trailer shop that did the lights was also flustered. They sell LED trailers all the time so they said to Mercedes tow vehicles. I'm not so sure people that buy Mercedes suv's like to tow stuff. Same with Audi and Porsche!
I'll report back with what happens.
As far as I can tell it looks to be a hit and miss problem. The trailer worked on my GL450 fine, but not my GL550. Software, hardware issue, don't know? Mercedes was not helpful at all at least the servicing dealer! The selling dealer knew of the problem but did not have a solution!
It's a OEM factory hitch and harness so go figure. I've not cut into, spliced or have tampered with any of the electrics. The trailer shop that did the lights was also flustered. They sell LED trailers all the time so they said to Mercedes tow vehicles. I'm not so sure people that buy Mercedes suv's like to tow stuff. Same with Audi and Porsche!
I'll report back with what happens.
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FYI it's not a new problem. I bought a new boat in 2008 and went to pick it up with my new at the time ML. Boat dealer hooked it up and nobody thought to check the signals until I was pulling out. Super dim brake lights and no signals. Trailer had all LED. After an hour of playing around with it we tried hooking up to an old trailer with non LED lights and it worked perfectly. Only solution that day was to replace the LED lights on the nice new trailer with some crappy but functional old lights. I was super pissed and it threw a damper on a great day picking up a shiny new boat. A week later had the adapter delivered and boat dealer reinstalled the LEDs and never had another issue.
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I didn't get an answer to my question but now I'm wondering if the tow vehicle has LED lights if that makes a difference with the trailer. I have a new trailer with LED's that I haven't towed yet. Soon I'll get a chance to actually try it but thought someone might have an answer.
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So to boil it down - depending on the particular LED trailer light system - "some" LED trailer light systems will not be compatible as/is with your Mercedes - if you encounter this problem - the $16 fix is a Tow Ready 20141 or 20142 depending on the # pins required for your trailer hookup.
The Tow Ready 20141 or 20142 is "rarely" in stock at local retail trailer-supply/auto-parts stores - but easily obtained from internet sources.
The Tow Ready 20141 or 20142 is "rarely" in stock at local retail trailer-supply/auto-parts stores - but easily obtained from internet sources.
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May be a little late but when I purchased my trailer the dealer CANAM Airstream in London Ontario warned me of this problem on Mercedes with LED trailers, before I left the dealership. Simple solution put a load on your running lights in the trailer like a small incandescent bulb hidden somewhere and the problem goes away. I installed a backup camera on the trailer powered by the running lights and that did the trick, problem solved.
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The Tow Ready adapter cured the blinking lights but I get the bulb failure indicator on the dash. I may just have to live with that.
They ordered another one free of charge. I've not tested that one out.
The GL550 is the only vehicle that I own that's burping the trailers. Both trailers are LED.
The Benz is still under warranty. Mercedes has point blank said if you cut into the OEM wiring we will not honor any warranty that comes from the cutting of the wires.
The trailer shop claims it's never seen this before and that they sell all kinds of trailers to owners of German tow vehicles.
I'm afraid to place any load bearing resisters on the trailer side for fear my other two vehicles will burp the trailers. The tow shop does not want to be the guinea pig for the testing either for fear of melting something down.
My only other resort is to make an adapter that goes between the trailer and the Benz and use it only for that purpose and not on the other two tow vehicles.
The trailer worked great on my GL450. No issues what so ever!
They ordered another one free of charge. I've not tested that one out.
The GL550 is the only vehicle that I own that's burping the trailers. Both trailers are LED.
The Benz is still under warranty. Mercedes has point blank said if you cut into the OEM wiring we will not honor any warranty that comes from the cutting of the wires.
The trailer shop claims it's never seen this before and that they sell all kinds of trailers to owners of German tow vehicles.
I'm afraid to place any load bearing resisters on the trailer side for fear my other two vehicles will burp the trailers. The tow shop does not want to be the guinea pig for the testing either for fear of melting something down.
My only other resort is to make an adapter that goes between the trailer and the Benz and use it only for that purpose and not on the other two tow vehicles.
The trailer worked great on my GL450. No issues what so ever!
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gkgeiger,
Here's a good one for you.
Our building engineer has a new Vette that hes got a hitch on it to tow his bass boat. Nicely colored to match the boat!
He had a Ram 2500, but I'm guessing the inner child portion kicked in and he needed the Vette instead. It too matched the boat!
When he pulled up in that and I LMFAO! Wait for this now.... His wife said you can have the Vette but the truck has to go! The result was the Vette with the hitch on it.
Never seen one ever equipped that way! I have to wonder what the installer thought when he was doing the deed?
Good times!
Here's a good one for you.
Our building engineer has a new Vette that hes got a hitch on it to tow his bass boat. Nicely colored to match the boat!
He had a Ram 2500, but I'm guessing the inner child portion kicked in and he needed the Vette instead. It too matched the boat!
When he pulled up in that and I LMFAO! Wait for this now.... His wife said you can have the Vette but the truck has to go! The result was the Vette with the hitch on it.
Never seen one ever equipped that way! I have to wonder what the installer thought when he was doing the deed?
Good times!
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gkgeiger,
Here's a good one for you.
Our building engineer has a new Vette that hes got a hitch on it to tow his bass boat. Nicely colored to match the boat!
He had a Ram 2500, but I'm guessing the inner child portion kicked in and he needed the Vette instead. It too matched the boat!
When he pulled up in that and I LMFAO! Wait for this now.... His wife said you can have the Vette but the truck has to go! The result was the Vette with the hitch on it.
Never seen one ever equipped that way! I have to wonder what the installer thought when he was doing the deed?
Good times!
Here's a good one for you.
Our building engineer has a new Vette that hes got a hitch on it to tow his bass boat. Nicely colored to match the boat!
He had a Ram 2500, but I'm guessing the inner child portion kicked in and he needed the Vette instead. It too matched the boat!
When he pulled up in that and I LMFAO! Wait for this now.... His wife said you can have the Vette but the truck has to go! The result was the Vette with the hitch on it.
Never seen one ever equipped that way! I have to wonder what the installer thought when he was doing the deed?
Good times!
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This will fix the blinking LED trailer lights. In fact, I have one for sale; since the Q7 is compatible with the LED's in my trailer.
https://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Tow-Ready/20142.html
https://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Tow-Ready/20142.html
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Trailer marker lights blinking
I have read all the posts and have tried the etrailer 7 pin to 7 adapter on my 2017 Winnebago View pulling 2017 trailer with led lights. It did not solve the problem. The marker lights on my new LED lighted trailer flash when all systems are off and key removed. The MB dealer here in Boise has had my Winnie and boat at their shop for almost a month and can’t figure it out!! All trailer light functions work OK just this annoying blinking. No problem when hooked up to my 2017 Tacoma. Winnebago says it’s an MB problem. Can someone get back to me with a possible solution?
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2014 ML350 Bluetec
I too have a 2014 Bluetec and tow quite a bit. The trailer is a 2012 Ironhorse with LED lighting.
Using the wireless prodigy brake controller.
Have not had a problem and the lights function properly.
Interested to hear about your solution.
Good Luck!
Using the wireless prodigy brake controller.
Have not had a problem and the lights function properly.
Interested to hear about your solution.
Good Luck!
