Sooooo...since i dont want to spoil it...someone go read up on the news... i told u soooo hes gona win this nascar bs championship

 

Well that came earlier than exepected... gor for him. The haters are still waiting for an oval win and no controversy before they "let him in".

 

just tell me what happened
nascar isnt worth looking up

 

He drove 19th to 1st after having a fuel problem to take his first win in Mexico City (road course)... he was clearly the fastest car out there, but he took out Pruett (teammate) while challenging for the lead.

 

On a right hand turn, Pruett closed the door on him, and should have known that Montoya was not going to back down one inch. Montoya's bumper was almost at Pruett's rear wheel. When Pruett tried closing the door, Montoya didn't brake and ran into Pruett's rear fender. It was a ballsy move on Montoya's part. But Pruett has enough experience to know that his car was going to be hit. In addition, Pruett was stupid to take such a wide line into that turn. If you watched Montoya's line after that, he made it impossible for anyone to pass going into the corner.

Pruett is ticked, and I can sympathize, but the incident was avoidable.

E

PS, was anyone else frustrated with the half screen of Montoya racing and Connie praying? I'm watching for the racing, not the *****.

E

 

I didn't see the race... so I buy your explanation many times over what I read in the redneck forums. I don't understand the boob comment though.

 

Montoya is known for doing things like this. I'm a huge fan of JP (I was born one hour away from Colombia in Venezuela) and I'm happy he won, just the way he managed that last part of the race was a bit selfish from his end...

He should've waited an extra lap. He had the race in his hands... he went from 7th to 5th to 3rd in 2 laps in the same turns: 1 and 2. Pruett was already with his nose in the turn and I'm sure all he felt was the bump in the back... I'm not saying it was on purpose, but I can imaging his teammates thoughts. He almost blew it. One extra lap would've given him and his owners a win-win situation (1st and 2nd). On the other hand, Pruett was coming back really pissed off... he finished 5th I think. 2-3 extra laps and he would've been 3rd at least.

There was a moment of tension were everyone was like: OK, is he going to get penalize or what? I also agree on the Connie comment. It's a race not a soup opera. I saw the race in Spanish and the comments of the ESPN chicks were simply off-topic.

I also wanted to point out, I started to follow Nascar since Montoya's debut in Daytona 2 weeks ago. I think it's a good move for the sport to approach more interest in new markets.

 

Well Connie was shown in a split screen. She is super hot, but I wanted a full screen of the race. I think they had her being shown for the last two laps. She is packing a Full C Cup at least, and with her praying, we were getting a nice shot of the twins. It was ticking me off. But really, Montoya was under no pressure from the #2 guy.

I saw the Press Release with Montoya aplogizing, but I think that is for team good will. I'm not used to that from JPM, but hey, whatever.

E

 

It is weird actually, I have simply been in the right time at the right place to catch some of his Nascar races. While I did stalk him in the ARCA races he did, I have been lucky to see his Nascar drives.

I was at a bar in Manhattan Beach following a run I did, and I was getting a beverage. Boom, I see the Texaco and start watching. I caught the rqace with about 14 laps to go. There was a Nascar fan watching. It was fun getting his comments. I'm telling you, those people don't know JPM like us F1 fans know him. I remember watching F3000 in Europe of him. Nascar fans are in for a treat. These Nascar guys think that JPM will be killed by Tony Steward and the rest of the roughneck possee have another thing coming.

E

 

Moantoya is doing what he's always done - steep himself in controversy. He's always come across as a whiner, no matter his skills IMO. I was never a fan of his in CART or F1, but at least he has some personality, unlike a lot of professional race drivers these days. He and NASCAR deserve each other *L*.

 

With respect, you need to study the subject before making blanket pronouncements. If JPM develops a reputation for spinning his rivals (a teammate no less) he will NEVER win this "nascar bs championship." You have to make friends in NASCAR, especially on the ovals... There's twice as many competitors than in an F1 race, and if you act like an *** and turn too many, half the field (at least) will turn against you, and you don't want 22-30 enemies in NASCAR, especially since all of them have more experience at bump drafting than JPM.

Pruitt would have let him through within a couple laps if Montoya had shown some patience. Or so Pruitt said.

Why don't you stick to your predictably absurd Ferrari pronouncements instead?

 

agree that jpm needs to respect the other drivers. He also has to work on becoming more professional. otherwise he will eventually end up in another race series.

banger cars or something

 

Are we so bored that we are now discussing Nascar?

 

I was shocked to learn that in Nascar you actually have to work with other drivers to move to the top (is this what bump drafting means?)... so you actually needs friends out there or at least not be hated.

 

We are discussing this because JPM was a prior McLaren driver. For the record, yes I'm quite hard up. But releif is only 12 odd days away.

Now, as far was working with the Pack. Look at Tony Stewart. That guy is a major ahole, and still wins races. He does this in spite of his antics, in spite of his pushing and shoving on other drivers.

Drivers want to win. With a dozen laps to go, old loyalties go out the window, and a bond forms, if only for one race.

Hopefully, I won't be the redneck around here informing ya'll of the race outcomes, my loyalty lies with F1. MB, before you think I'm clowing rednecks, I grew up in the Hill Country of Texas.

It would be easier for Monty if he went with the flow, but that is just not his style. Likely, thats why I like him.

E

 

am i the only one that didnt know there were more than ovals in NASCAR?

 

Thanks Ed!

You couldn't have layed it down better !

 

Classic JPM behavior.....He needs to get out of the way of himself because he is a solid driver..Leave the ego in the paddock...he would have scored major points waiting a lap or two because he did have the faster car and then the team would have finished 1-2 and his win would not have a dark cloud over it.

 

I can see Michael Schumacher in awe right now. Yup, he wishes he can be in NASCAR.

 

You know what, I think you're right on... not that MS will ever admit to it, but he has to be thinking it when hopping on his go-kart.

 

I don't know about that. I can recall seeing a story where a NASCAR team offered up a test drive to MS for free. I think Michael has moved on. I can see him owning a team, managing, buy up futures on young drivers.

Hell, he probably wanted to race, but got major poo from his wifie. Just a thought.

So, whats the plan with you guys for the AUS GP?

E

 

I need to check out TV schedules... it'll run at an odd time here in Europe I think.

Re: MS, I think he is not thinking about joining Nascar or anything like that... but I bet that he must wish he could be in that race in a competitive car banging fenders with Montoya and having fun winning.

 

Dang, i see everything way diff then most of you guys!

First of all, how do we know he was going to let JPM through? Is this some kind of NASCAR stuff they do ? Let me pp through ? Why is it called racing?

Cmon guys, anyone remember the Senna times, teamates vs teamates out in the track fighting...oh wait, let's be a bit sarcastic here. MS and Rubens, Ruben's lets MS through and the whole world goes nuts. This guy SAID he was going to let JPM through and - the world goes nuts because JPM didn't wait. What assurance did JPM have that he was going to let him through ?

I say f it and go for it. JPM did good in my opinion.

I don't call it racing if its like this. Heck in my karting squad, i jokinly told my teamate to let me through if he's up front of me...you should have seen his face expression


Racing, dosen't discrimate! Who care's if its your teamate up front of you, you over take him at all cost! I like JPM because he has the *****/blood of a racing driver!


Funny, usually when karting i don't like to bump people etc, i like to play clean. You know where playing clean got me ? no where!

I would have slower guys infront of me, and i would always have to break early so i wouldnt hit them ! So i never moved up, session 2 i was like f that, you have to give them a nudge to let them know your there! Theirs no other way to get by ! you have to squeeze your way in just like htey do to me cuz im waiting for slowpoke infront of me to make a mistake!

The final session of the day, i qualy 3rd. The 2 guys infront of me, i had noticed their driving style, and they were aggresive. I told my teamate, i hate touching a bit with other karts, but i have to break that stupid ideal right now if i want to win. Guess what, i was faster then p2 guy, but i couldnt get by clean, i had to give him a nudge and squeze my way through, i over took him, put a 15 sec gap, caught up to p1 guy, and samething, and i won the race....sometimes you have to do what it takes to win it.

That's if the racing blood is in you ! If not, if you can't take a nudge, get off the track! Sure it pisse'd off the guy for getting a nudge, but hell i'm sure he would have done it to get by. It's tough skin out there, just like here on mbworld!

 

Nudging and pushing only gets you so far... and you have to know what the equipment (and the field) will take.

Anyway, it's funny to see the rednecks panicking over Montoya... there is an article on fox.com suggesting that Montoya could be the new "intimidator", and they're at each other's throats over it on the speed forum.