Changing spark plugs
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'79 300D, '85 300Dt, '99 CLK430
Changing spark plugs
When tightening them, how tight should it be? As tight as I can, or when I think they are tight enough? I'm afraid of overturning and damaging the block
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first, always put a dab of anti-sieze on threads, then finger tight plus a 1/4 turn, they have a crush washer at the seating surface that creates a seal
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No anti-seize?
Why would you say anti-seize is not needed on a steel spark plug going into an aluminum head? Everything I have read says to use it, but sparingly. Stripped spark plug hole threads in aluminum heads is not a myth.
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There is PLENTY of reason for using neversieze.
I suppose you've never read the many posts on automotive forums where people have had the spark plug break off flush in the head, nor personally experienced the pleasure of removing a bolt frozen in aluminum only to follow up and fix the problem with helicoil inserts, nor realize that galling of fasteners in threaded aluminum holes is a well-documented problem in technical journals.
A jar of neversieze is a must for any toolbox and is highly recommended for use on any fastener threaded into aluminum. This stuff has made my life a lot easier for the 20 years I've been using it.
What I DON'T recommend is for people to overapply the compound or add it to a fastener that already has some of the compound dried out and caked from previous applications.
I suppose you've never read the many posts on automotive forums where people have had the spark plug break off flush in the head, nor personally experienced the pleasure of removing a bolt frozen in aluminum only to follow up and fix the problem with helicoil inserts, nor realize that galling of fasteners in threaded aluminum holes is a well-documented problem in technical journals.
A jar of neversieze is a must for any toolbox and is highly recommended for use on any fastener threaded into aluminum. This stuff has made my life a lot easier for the 20 years I've been using it.
What I DON'T recommend is for people to overapply the compound or add it to a fastener that already has some of the compound dried out and caked from previous applications.
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Originally posted by nov0798
i would NEVER use antiseize in the plug threads. there is no reason for it.
i would NEVER use antiseize in the plug threads. there is no reason for it.
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I asked my MB tech guy, and he said that they dont put anything on the plugs, they just change em. He also said that they put them in by hand, and dont use a torque wrench.
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With today's extended service intervals,
your sparkplugs are going to be in there a long time.The OEM Bosch plugs that the dealer's shop installs come with an anti-seize coating.
While it's true that the steel sparkplugs and your aluminum heads expand at different rates,that's not what makes the plugs stick.Aluminum expands with heat about twice as fast as steel-it gets looser with heat,not tighter.The easiest way to get a seized sparkplug out of an aluminum head is to do it while the engine's hot.
What can happen is that combustion products will seep into the small gap where the threads are.It can cook into place and solidify like cement.Not "will",but "can".Modern engines have cleaner combustion and aren't as prone to do this.It still can happen.
It's advisable to put a small dab of never-seize on threads @ installation.Run it in finger tight,then go 1/4 turn more,just like it says on the box the plug comes in. You only need a torque wrench if you're putting the same plugs back in again.
While it's true that the steel sparkplugs and your aluminum heads expand at different rates,that's not what makes the plugs stick.Aluminum expands with heat about twice as fast as steel-it gets looser with heat,not tighter.The easiest way to get a seized sparkplug out of an aluminum head is to do it while the engine's hot.
What can happen is that combustion products will seep into the small gap where the threads are.It can cook into place and solidify like cement.Not "will",but "can".Modern engines have cleaner combustion and aren't as prone to do this.It still can happen.
It's advisable to put a small dab of never-seize on threads @ installation.Run it in finger tight,then go 1/4 turn more,just like it says on the box the plug comes in. You only need a torque wrench if you're putting the same plugs back in again.
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Re: With today's extended service intervals,
Originally posted by Steve Clark
The OEM Bosch plugs that the dealer's shop installs come with an anti-seize coating.
It's advisable to put a small dab of never-seize on threads @ installation.Run it in finger tight,then go 1/4 turn more,just like it says on the box the plug comes in.
The OEM Bosch plugs that the dealer's shop installs come with an anti-seize coating.
It's advisable to put a small dab of never-seize on threads @ installation.Run it in finger tight,then go 1/4 turn more,just like it says on the box the plug comes in.
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Yes - a tiny dab
won't hurt anthing.Be aware that more is not better...Some varieties of anti-sieze will kill your O2 sensor if you use way too much,so just a little smear on the threads is all that's necessary.
The coating that Bosch puts on their plug threads is very thin.It's apparently some sort of proprietary coating.
The coating that Bosch puts on their plug threads is very thin.It's apparently some sort of proprietary coating.