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Old 08-18-2021, 04:42 AM
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Tactrix OpenPort 2.0 clone (not a real clone/copy at all ! )will never ever have all the functions that a genuine Tactrix or a Sdconnect C4 does
it is just a chinese TOY tool
most of my members have been there and by reading my reviews you will see what their experience was with all these cheap tools

there is nothing serious as VCI under 350$ !

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Originally Posted by BenzNinja
Tactrix OpenPort 2.0 clone (not a real clone/copy at all ! )will never ever have all the functions that a genuine Tactrix or a Sdconnect C4 does
it is just a chinese TOY tool
most of my members have been there and by reading my reviews you will see what their experience was with all these cheap tools

there is nothing serious as VCI under 350$ !
I totally agree with you and actually will never used again Taxtrix to perform coding/flashing jobs on any car. I own now a VXDIAG VCX SE device which seems to perform well acting as a Xentry VCI device (at least recognized as one by XDOS) but I'm not sure its relevance in the long run. Also experimented some disagreement when wanting to use LSCAN instead of HSCAN which was not offered by the device. BenzNinja, since you seems to know well the value and configuration of diagnosis module can you advice a good device ideally working for MB but also other brands like VAG or even BMW that I could invest into, any links? And do you know if DAS Offline is performing the switch automatically between LSCAN and HSCAN bus network or it needs to be enforced in some config files (as opposed to Vediamo when you can select in connection properties)?
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• BMW/Mini – ISTA
• FCA – Wi-Tech 2.0
• Ford – Ford J2534 Diagnostic System (FJDS) & Ford Diagnostic and Repair System (FDRS)
• GM – Global Diagnostic System (GDS2)
• GM – Tech2Win (PC-based Tech2 software)
• Honda – Honda Diagnostic System (i-HDS)
• Jaguar/LandRover – Integrated Diagnostic Software (IDS) & Symptom-Driven Diagnostics (SDD)
• Mercedes-Benz – XENTRY J2534 Pass-Thru
• Mistubishi – Multi-Use Tester III Special Edition (MUT3–SE)
• Nissan – Consult III Plus R2R
• Subaru – Subaru Select Monitor 4 (SSM4)
• Toyota – TechStream
• VW/Audi (VAG) – Offboard Diagnostic Information System (ODIS)
• Volvo – Volvo Information and Diagnostics for Aftersales (VIDA)
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What is the status with XENTRY and latest model MBs? Is XENTRY used on the V/X167 and W223?
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What is the status with XENTRY and latest model MBs? Is XENTRY used on the V/X167 and W223?
working on it
not possible but a server return simulation will do the job
not all models are affected
everything up to 2020 works fine


then, those who have these cars don't want to work on them as they are very wealthy
and look at the fact that there are still people that rather safe 200-400$ and buy junk software......

who cares for now, new cars have warranty

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working on it
not possible but a server return simulation will do the job
not all models are affected
everything up to 2020 works fine


then, those who have these cars don't want to work on them as they are very wealthy
and look at the fact that there are still people that rather safe 200-400$ and buy junk software......

who cares for now, new cars have warranty
Any further development on this? I would like to be able to run Xentry on the x167 but still unable.
Sorry, I just realized that this was actually a very recent reply. I got confused about it is from the past months.

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Originally Posted by kosta15auto
Any further development on this? I would like to be able to run Xentry on the x167 but still unable.
Sorry, I just realized that this was actually a very recent reply. I got confused about it is from the past months.
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Can somebody please help me out, I have just purchased a CLS55 AMG for a great price but with a few issues, its my first MB. I am very fluent with BMW's and there INSTA and INPA software. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the reasons for needing a MUX to establish COMMS with a MB. I have seen the China setups with entire kits for a price of $600 and up. Of course were all on our own budgets but what im trying to do is be able to read all modules and perform active/ bi-directional test (EX: manually air my shocks up) for the best price i can find. Can I do this with the USB 2.0 pass through Xentry software? Also would this Xentry software come with WIS? I have a WIN 7 32BIT OS Panasonic laptop to install everything on without a RS232 port. Any replies are much appreciated. Happy Holidays to All!!
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Originally Posted by 03ac
Can somebody please help me out, I have just purchased a CLS55 AMG for a great price but with a few issues, its my first MB. I am very fluent with BMW's and there INSTA and INPA software. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the reasons for needing a MUX to establish COMMS with a MB. I have seen the China setups with entire kits for a price of $600 and up. Of course were all on our own budgets but what im trying to do is be able to read all modules and perform active/ bi-directional test (EX: manually air my shocks up) for the best price i can find. Can I do this with the USB 2.0 pass through Xentry software? Also would this Xentry software come with WIS? I have a WIN 7 32BIT OS Panasonic laptop to install everything on without a RS232 port. Any replies are much appreciated. Happy Holidays to All!!
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as the service is mainly about hot coding and diagnose assistance all by remote, in order to be able to do far more than dealers can, I need a good VCI
this is why I do not recommend anything else then C4, and do not recommend passthru. Why would you want to safe the price of 2 tires to be limited ...???
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working on it
not possible but a server return simulation will do the job
not all models are affected
everything up to 2020 works fine


then, those who have these cars don't want to work on them as they are very wealthy
and look at the fact that there are still people that rather safe 200-400$ and buy junk software......

who cares for now, new cars have warranty
Any further development on this? I would like to be able to run Xentry on the x167 but still unable.
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Originally Posted by kosta15auto
Any further development on this? I would like to be able to run Xentry on the x167 but still unable.
no problem with x167
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I have a PortThru setup on my laptop and a Tactrix device but I'm not sure how to use the software aside from clicking diagnostics and it does a basic reading. Can live data be captured with port thru? Thanks
Edit: I'm using this with a 2006 S430.
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Originally Posted by 96_C280
I have a PortThru setup on my laptop and a Tactrix device but I'm not sure how to use the software aside from clicking diagnostics and it does a basic reading. Can live data be captured with port thru? Thanks
Edit: I'm using this with a 2006 S430.
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Thank you very much for replying. At least now I know its possible I just have to figure out how to do it. I will likely be contacting you when I finally get a C4. Thanks again.
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Thank you very much for replying. At least now I know its possible I just have to figure out how to do it. I will likely be contacting you when I finally get a C4. Thanks again.
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Q: Which SDS C# + Xentry version is ideal for working on an older 2002 C230K (W203) Sport Coupe with full access to all systems, module (re)programming (+ SCN coding if needed)?
I have heard newer versions (both hardware and software) have made changes that have made them less useful?
  1. Should I go for the oldest C3 or C4 (or C5)? (I've even heard of this "Super MB" model, anyone have experience with that?)
  2. Also which version of Xentry?
  3. I recently purchased a used 2019 Intel Apple MBP for personal use, would I be able to run the software in a VM or via WINE on it? or does Xentry have to have a 2nd-hand dedicated PC laptop?

As far as use cases go: I am looking to do as much diagnostic + repair work myself where possible- seeing how dealers will no longer even look at my car, claiming it is too old (There are obviously limitations on this since I currently live in a highrise apartment so I won't have all the equipment/tools/space or a lift that a shop may have).
Regarding if it supports wireless (DOIP?), that would be nice I guess but it isn't a hard requirement.
MUX + Xentry Compatibility with newer year models may be desirable/a plus too when parts become impossible to find for my car (which is starting to happen I hear)

PS: Also, looking to find/get a copy of the last release of Star Diagnostics DVD for my model year car (I think 2007?), ie: P-2700-203-07 but it has become impossible to find!
(why you may ask? from what I can tell it has a much better hyperlinked UI VS WIS/DAS/Xentry, so would be convenient for quick instruction/schematic lookups I feel, when a full diagnostic isn't necessary). I am kicking myself for not buying it earlier before Mercedes discontinued it If you have this, please PM me!

Mercedes Star Service DVD (P-2700-203-07)

Edit: @BenzNinja , @pmercury , @MBENZTECH , any thoughts on this?

Thanks & any help appreciated!
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@blacknova2 For that vehicle you will need Xentry Openshell and C4 hardware. The biggest issue with C4 hardware clones is their quality. It's a gamble now a days to purchase one. You can probably buy a full kit on Ebay for cheap. If you find just the C4 and need the software, let me know, I will guide you in the right direction for a proper installation. All fixes for Xentry/DAS are all over the internet, don't believe the hype about one fix is better than the other one.
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Originally Posted by MBENZTECH
@blacknova2 For that vehicle you will need Xentry Openshell and C4 hardware. The biggest issue with C4 hardware clones is their quality. It's a gamble now a days to purchase one. You can probably buy a full kit on Ebay for cheap. If you find just the C4 and need the software, let me know, I will guide you in the right direction for a proper installation. All fixes for Xentry/DAS are all over the internet, don't believe the hype about one fix is better than the other one.
Thanks for the reply! Is there a particular year version of Xentry Openshell I should look for when working with vehicles this old? ex: "MM-YYYY"? & do I need HHT-WIN? Also, is it possible to transplant Xentry into a Windows guest VM running on a 2019 Intel Apple MBP host? (or perhaps I should just go with one of those bundles with a Toughbook)

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Originally Posted by MBENZTECH
@blacknova2 For that vehicle you will need Xentry Openshell and C4 hardware. The biggest issue with C4 hardware clones is their quality. It's a gamble now a days to purchase one. You can probably buy a full kit on Ebay for cheap. If you find just the C4 and need the software, let me know, I will guide you in the right direction for a proper installation. All fixes for Xentry/DAS are all over the internet, don't believe the hype about one fix is better than the other one.
Not saying your wrong, but after reading for hours and hours I came to the conclusion that for my 2007 C230 (W203) all i needed was xentry 10.2008 and a c3 mux (which I purchased for $200). So is my setup going to work at all or just some functions will not be available? I picked this car up for free (what a mistake that was) and someone had cut out the EIS. I already got a new key from the dealer and had someone clone the EIS and the car runs fine, it just wont apply power to the rear wheels no matter what gear your in. So i tried to plug into the x11 (odb2 port) with a few different scanners and the x11 has power, fuse is good, but no communication with the car. Any suggestions what I need to fix this?

Thanks for your time and advice....
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For anyone wondering about vediamo: You can use any passthru device with Vediamo 4 but not Vediamo 5. You have to edit an ini file and work some other magic but it is doable. Without a c3/c4, you will only be able to program modules that use CAN. For instance, I can do byte level SCN coding on TCM but not ECM on my 2004 E class. The TCM can be written to via CAN, while the ECM (ME-SFI 2.8) can only be written to via Kline.
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