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Old 02-26-2022, 06:41 AM
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W460 Engine swap

Hi folks,

I have updated the exterior of my w460 1982 to a full w463a g63 brabus from 2020.
Now interior and engine must we swapped to fit the exterior. Right now a m117 5.0 engine out of a s class w126 is inside with automatic transmission.I am planning to built a M113 or m156 engine in my w460 G class.
I will also take the interior (seats), dashboard and instrument cluster.
I'm considering 4 options as donor vehicle.

ML55 amg pré-facelift (before 2002) W163
  • Engine: M113 5.5
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.0
  • Transmissie: 5G 722.6
  • Costs around 3000 euro

ML55 amg facelift (after 2002) W163
  • Engine: M113 5.5
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.8
  • Transmissie: 5G 722.6
  • Costs around 4000 euro

​​​ML500 (W164)
  • Engine: M113 5.0 (eventually upgraded with a m113 5.5 amg engine afterwards)
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.8
  • Transmissie: 7G 722.9 (internal TCM)
  • costs around 8000 euro

Ml63 AMG (w164)
  • Engine: M156 6.2
  • ECU: Bosch ME9.7
  • Transmissie: 7G 722.9 (internal TCM)
  • costs around 13000 euro
I like the 7G transmission and the modern instrument cluster look of the w164.

What would you suggest as a donor vehicle considering my whishes?
I know that tuning/programming the ME2.8 is easier then ME2.0. how important is this?

Is this swap even possible with the m156 and corresponding ecu?


Hopefully you can help me.
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Many thank from the Netherlands!!
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Originally Posted by BlackMerry
Hi folks,

I have updated the exterior of my w460 1982 to a full w463a g63 brabus from 2020.
Now interior and engine must we swapped to fit the exterior. Right now a m117 5.0 engine out of a s class w126 is inside with automatic transmission.I am planning to built a M113 or m156 engine in my w460 G class.
I will also take the interior (seats), dashboard and instrument cluster.
I'm considering 4 options as donor vehicle.

ML55 amg pré-facelift (before 2002) W163
  • Engine: M113 5.5
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.0
  • Transmissie: 5G 722.6
  • Costs around 3000 euro

ML55 amg facelift (after 2002) W163
  • Engine: M113 5.5
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.8
  • Transmissie: 5G 722.6
  • Costs around 4000 euro

​​​ML500 (W164)
  • Engine: M113 5.0 (eventually upgraded with a m113 5.5 amg engine afterwards)
  • ECU: Bosch ME2.8
  • Transmissie: 7G 722.9 (internal TCM)
  • costs around 8000 euro

Ml63 AMG (w164)
  • Engine: M156 6.2
  • ECU: Bosch ME9.7
  • Transmissie: 7G 722.9 (internal TCM)
  • costs around 13000 euro
I like the 7G transmission and the modern instrument cluster look of the w164.

What would you suggest as a donor vehicle considering my whishes?
I know that tuning/programming the ME2.8 is easier then ME2.0. how important is this?

Is this swap even possible with the m156 and corresponding ecu?


Hopefully you can help me.
​​​​​​
Many thank from the Netherlands!!
ECUs need to be coded to the VIN. Do you have a solution for this?

Have you ruled out newer M157 and M17x engines?
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ECUs need to be coded to the VIN. Do you have a solution for this?

Have you ruled out newer M157 and M17x engines?
I planning to transfer all ecu correlated controllers and harnesses to the G wagon. In that way i have nothing to do with vin coding. The engine-transmission and cluster combination wont know its in another vehicle.

Ofcourse lots of sensors need to be coded out of the ECU to prevent it from going into limp mode.
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Update July

Hi,

At this point im busy to disconnect the ML55 AMG engine with Kleemann supercharger setup to transfer over to the G wagon.
I found out that i can copy all 4 speed sensors from just 1 abs reluctor ring + sensor. Later on i will make the abs system work. But just to make the car drivable.

Now i need to make just 1 abs sensor on my G wagon. Do someone know if the sensor of the output axle from transmission can be measured? If so i could take the signal into a arduino and modify according to diff. ratio. Then I should be able to transfer the engine and trans without any aftermarket wheel speed sensor.

If taking sensor data out of the 722.6 wont work, i can also put a reluctor ring on the axle from transmission to diff and multiply that by the factor of the diff. Making a abs sensor on the drive axle should be easier then to implement an reluctor ring inside the rear axle....? Or does someone know a good method to put abs sensors on w460 axles?

I will keep you updated,

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