Performance upgrade of C230K
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Performance upgrade of C230K
MBtech208, Have you had any experience with aftermarket upgrades to the 230K engine? problems?
thoughts? Any idea of the performance gains available with the pulley/chip upgrades? Thanks for any info. Has anybody done the upgrades, comparisons for the Wetteruer VS. Brabus?
thoughts? Any idea of the performance gains available with the pulley/chip upgrades? Thanks for any info. Has anybody done the upgrades, comparisons for the Wetteruer VS. Brabus?
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99' SLK 230 & 01' CLK 430
Gary...If you call the manufacture about their pulley kit, they all said that their kit doe not have any problem but that it not true. Here's some of the problem with the pulley kit upgrade. If you have the 5 0r 6 speed, the clutch will have slipping problem and also their is a bog/black hole at 3000-3500 rpm. That is what i know so far.
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99' SLK 230 & 01' CLK 430
Gary..sory one more thing.... hehe!! Brabus kit is around $3000 for K1 and that also included the exhaust. But the exhaust don't give you any gain in hp, just sound like my Slk AMG exhaust. K2 will cost you alot more. Wetteruer kit only cost $1500. The pulley is what give hp not the exhaust.
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KLEEMANN C230K
the bog
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The bog of which you speak is created by tubulence at the mass air-flow sensor. This only happens on the earlier models where the sensor is down low nearer to the intercooler. Go to your local dealership and get a new pipe to relocate the sensor next to the throttle-body. And I don't know if this is applicable to the slk, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to check it out. Brandon @ KLEEMANN may be able to help you w/ the instructions.
The bog of which you speak is created by tubulence at the mass air-flow sensor. This only happens on the earlier models where the sensor is down low nearer to the intercooler. Go to your local dealership and get a new pipe to relocate the sensor next to the throttle-body. And I don't know if this is applicable to the slk, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to check it out. Brandon @ KLEEMANN may be able to help you w/ the instructions.
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2.3 liter Kompressor upgrade
The 2.3K engine is ripe for a bit of tweaking. Most companies (including KLEEMANN) provide a larger crank pulley to overdrive the kompressor for a higher capacity ratio to the engine.
Early cars (pre summer 99) have the mass air sensor located some distance away from the throttle body. In addition to poor throttle response this location proves troublesome when the boost is increased. MBZ saw fit to relocate the MAF closer to the throttle body in the fall of 99 (they also increased the boost slightly at the same time). Colder heat range plugs are important to keep the chance of detonation as low as possible.
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
The faster a positive displacement SC spins the more important reducing any pumping restrictions on the inlet becomes. Always upgrade to a free flow element of some kind (ITG, K&N etc). Either of these elements provide appropriate filtration (in terms of particle size filtered).
Early cars (pre summer 99) have the mass air sensor located some distance away from the throttle body. In addition to poor throttle response this location proves troublesome when the boost is increased. MBZ saw fit to relocate the MAF closer to the throttle body in the fall of 99 (they also increased the boost slightly at the same time). Colder heat range plugs are important to keep the chance of detonation as low as possible.
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
The faster a positive displacement SC spins the more important reducing any pumping restrictions on the inlet becomes. Always upgrade to a free flow element of some kind (ITG, K&N etc). Either of these elements provide appropriate filtration (in terms of particle size filtered).
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6 Cyl Kompressor
J Irwan-
KLEEMANN does have a Kompressor system for the three valve 112 engine. This system is configured , as required, for any displacement of the 112 engine. The C36 does not fall in this catagory.
Price for this system is $9500 for the unit, $1300 for installation. Installation of the kompressor system is available only through authorized KLEEMANN installers.
KLEEMANN does have a Kompressor system for the three valve 112 engine. This system is configured , as required, for any displacement of the 112 engine. The C36 does not fall in this catagory.
Price for this system is $9500 for the unit, $1300 for installation. Installation of the kompressor system is available only through authorized KLEEMANN installers.
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1997 C36 AMG
Thanks for the prompt reply Kleeman 
Hoever As I understand Kleeman only make the supercharger for the new engine V engine V-6 2.8L, V-6 3.2L, and V-6 4.3L.
Do you guys have any plan to develop for the inline-6 engine
such as 94-98 C280, 95-97 C36 AMG....
Regardz,
J Irwan
Hoever As I understand Kleeman only make the supercharger for the new engine V engine V-6 2.8L, V-6 3.2L, and V-6 4.3L.
Do you guys have any plan to develop for the inline-6 engine
such as 94-98 C280, 95-97 C36 AMG....
Regardz,
J Irwan
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KLEEMANN website
The KLEEMANN websites are:
http://www.kleemann.dk
or
http://www.kleemannusa.com
Both links take you to the same site.
http://www.kleemann.dk
or
http://www.kleemannusa.com
Both links take you to the same site.
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Re: 2.3 liter Kompressor upgrade
Originally posted by KLEEMANN
The 2.3K engine is ripe for a bit of tweaking.
...
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
The 2.3K engine is ripe for a bit of tweaking.
...
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
Thanks!
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KLEEMANN C230K
The stock ecu
The stock ECU automatically remaps itself. You just flatline it (remove power from the computer) and run it like you normally would and the unit resets all the parameters for air and fuel.
Let me tell you, it is sweeeeeet!!!
John
Let me tell you, it is sweeeeeet!!!
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Re: 2.3 liter Kompressor upgrade
Originally posted by KLEEMANN
The 2.3K engine is ripe for a bit of tweaking. Most companies (including KLEEMANN) provide a larger crank pulley to overdrive the kompressor for a higher capacity ratio to the engine.
Early cars (pre summer 99) have the mass air sensor located some distance away from the throttle body. In addition to poor throttle response this location proves troublesome when the boost is increased. MBZ saw fit to relocate the MAF closer to the throttle body in the fall of 99 (they also increased the boost slightly at the same time). Colder heat range plugs are important to keep the chance of detonation as low as possible.
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
The faster a positive displacement SC spins the more important reducing any pumping restrictions on the inlet becomes. Always upgrade to a free flow element of some kind (ITG, K&N etc). Either of these elements provide appropriate filtration (in terms of particle size filtered).
The 2.3K engine is ripe for a bit of tweaking. Most companies (including KLEEMANN) provide a larger crank pulley to overdrive the kompressor for a higher capacity ratio to the engine.
Early cars (pre summer 99) have the mass air sensor located some distance away from the throttle body. In addition to poor throttle response this location proves troublesome when the boost is increased. MBZ saw fit to relocate the MAF closer to the throttle body in the fall of 99 (they also increased the boost slightly at the same time). Colder heat range plugs are important to keep the chance of detonation as low as possible.
KLEEMANN's pre summer 99 boost system is $1700 (includes MBZ factory piping for MAF, crank pulley, colder plugs, new belt, resized alternator pulley and crank hub) 24-230hp.
Fall 99 on boost system is $1000 (crank pulley, plugs, belt) 224-230hp.
The faster a positive displacement SC spins the more important reducing any pumping restrictions on the inlet becomes. Always upgrade to a free flow element of some kind (ITG, K&N etc). Either of these elements provide appropriate filtration (in terms of particle size filtered).
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From: Cape Town SA
SLK 230K & C Coupe M111
Other problems
that happened with my kleemann pulley.
3* Kompressor clutches
1* Kompressor
1* Throttle actuator
1* air flow meter
OK so lets explain. This was over 5 years. I drive my SLK 230K like an F1.
With the extra boost the pulley put on the kompressor clutch caused the clutches to wear out sooner.
The extra boost also pulls more air through the air filter so if you're using a performance filter it has a tendancy to pull some of the filter spray into the air pipe, clogging up your intercooler. In my case as Merc didnt clean my intercooler like they should have this stuff made its way to the throttle damaging my airflow meter along the way. My ECU also eventually found away around the extra boost retarding the timing and my merc started pushing out the standard 167hp. I think the timing was retarded due to the use of 93 octane with the extra boost I do believe it would have been better to run on 95.
OH and the kompressor. Well it was a 9 hour run down to Cape Town only dropping below full throttel to full up with gas. By the time I got down the kompressor was cooked.
SO my SLK might have been a dud. Or it could have been the pulley. Hey maybe it was my disrespectful driving. Or a combination of all three.
And thats my story.
PS I've just got a CCoupe 230K 2295cc and the pulley on its way. Once you've tried it your hooked.
3* Kompressor clutches
1* Kompressor
1* Throttle actuator
1* air flow meter
OK so lets explain. This was over 5 years. I drive my SLK 230K like an F1.
With the extra boost the pulley put on the kompressor clutch caused the clutches to wear out sooner.
The extra boost also pulls more air through the air filter so if you're using a performance filter it has a tendancy to pull some of the filter spray into the air pipe, clogging up your intercooler. In my case as Merc didnt clean my intercooler like they should have this stuff made its way to the throttle damaging my airflow meter along the way. My ECU also eventually found away around the extra boost retarding the timing and my merc started pushing out the standard 167hp. I think the timing was retarded due to the use of 93 octane with the extra boost I do believe it would have been better to run on 95.
OH and the kompressor. Well it was a 9 hour run down to Cape Town only dropping below full throttel to full up with gas. By the time I got down the kompressor was cooked.
SO my SLK might have been a dud. Or it could have been the pulley. Hey maybe it was my disrespectful driving. Or a combination of all three.
And thats my story.
PS I've just got a CCoupe 230K 2295cc and the pulley on its way. Once you've tried it your hooked.
