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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 11:43 PM
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Off topic but what kind of engine temps do you see in the summer time in rush hour traffic?
Around 100 or so
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Stunning car! A real damn good deal at that price. I already have a CL thou
May I suggest maybe keeping it until say spring time? Being in a snow belt in December/January a car like this will be very hard to move.
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Around 100 or so
Is that because of heatsoak?? I thought your mods would help making it run cooler another 15-20 degrees.
Old Dec 27, 2014 | 03:44 AM
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Is that because of heatsoak?? I thought your mods would help making it run cooler another 15-20 degrees.
Correct, my mods make it run way cooler once its already rolling, plus when I add ICE to the rear tanks I get the temps down a lot. You asked in Traffic so I figured I would post chicago Hot day traffic temps.

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Stunning car! A real damn good deal at that price. I already have a CL thou
May I suggest maybe keeping it until say spring time? Being in a snow belt in December/January a car like this will be very hard to move.
I will wait and see what happens. Im by no means in a hurry to sell this thing.
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Happy New Year Guys!!!

NEW YEAR NEW PLANS FIRST $20,000 TAKE IT. MY LOSS YOUR GAIN. CAR IS CURRENTLY AT SPEEDRIVEN BUT PLEASE CONTACT ME BEFORE YOU GO AND LOOK AT IT. THE GUYS THERE ARE VERY BUSY AND I WOULD NEED TO MEET YOU. I WILL ALSO TRY TO GET CAR BACK AND PUT IT IN MY FATHERS GARAGE TO SHOW IT WHICH IS IN CHICAGO AREA BY O'HARE AIRPORT.
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God damn...... This is a steal. I need to go from 2 E55's (w210 and 211) to this and one E55.....
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 12:25 AM
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God damn...... This is a steal. I need to go from 2 E55's (w210 and 211) to this and one E55.....
This is a steal, as soon as I posted the car for that price today Marcin owner of Speedriven asked me if I was retarded, and in all honesty I don't know anymore

Trust me Im not getting rid of this car because there is something wrong with it Im getting rid of it because of a new project and my wife and my mother in law would tag team beat me down if I decided to keep both. I already hear enough BS around with just one in the garage.

Man how sad is that
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Get rid of the new project, I bet it doesn't compare to the luxury & power this m275 offers. Life is about compromises sometimes and I believe you've got a masterpiece on your hands bro
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Get rid of the new project, I bet it doesn't compare to the luxury & power this m275 offers. Life is about compromises sometimes and I believe you've got a masterpiece on your hands bro
^^^ What he said, IT feels awful when getting rid of that ONE special car; specially one you poured so much effort and $$$ into.

I would take advantage of your situation if it wasn't that the car is about $3K above my budget for toys but I am about doing the right thing: If I may, please allow me to suggest you reconsider the SALE .
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 11:07 AM
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why speedriven don't buy for company car since all their parts? and again he replies to you about selling a car but no response to a customer! guess you have to live close enough to go to shop to get service! I would make you deal since horrible company return car to stock no "speedriven" parts and I would take it, you can sell the parts back to them... and not issue with you just or car just company that did car... prefer company with good customer service and at least do what they say, not hide maybe forward to speedriven, and then I would get answer... I know speedriven is cheaper then renntech but you get what you pay for.... or you should've went brabus... but pm a complete list with all that was done and what you have for car. and what is unable to be reversed, or replaced with other performance parts. and not bashing you just real bad taste from your builder! also some updated pictures of whole car even trunk. thanks and good luck.
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why speedriven don't buy for company car since all their parts? and again he replies to you about selling a car but no response to a customer! guess you have to live close enough to go to shop to get service! I would make you deal since horrible company return car to stock no "speedriven" parts and I would take it, you can sell the parts back to them... and not issue with you just or car just company that did car... prefer company with good customer service and at least do what they say, not hide maybe forward to speedriven, and then I would get answer... I know speedriven is cheaper then renntech but you get what you pay for.... or you should've went brabus... but pm a complete list with all that was done and what you have for car. and what is unable to be reversed, or replaced with other performance parts. and not bashing you just real bad taste from your builder! also some updated pictures of whole car even trunk. thanks and good luck.
Car is up for sale here on MB WORLD to members. Its a 600 built by Speedriven not Speedriven's car why would they buy car or the parts back?. I'm not sure what you are saying? Renntech had only one fast 600/65 build and that car was a CL65 that went 10.2 if I'm not mistaken. Anyway that is an entire dif topic. This is a for sale thread on this car.
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I think he means the car is really great which we can all agree on, but Speedriven has a terrible customer service when dealing with people who aren't local customers (I'm sure there great when dealing with local clients) but dealing with unanswered phone calls or emails is really discouraging.

On a side note next you go to Speedriven Kamil, check if they have those billet idle pulleys in stock, I tried emailing and calling them on multiple occasions with no luck. I figured I paypal a local guy in the area to buy the idle pulleys for me.
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Speedriven have been hard to deal with however i did order a trans pan and pulleys from them recently and had some decent response this time. Marcin did say they have hired someone to deal with the phone and emails so let's hope going forward things will change.
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I think he means the car is really great which we can all agree on, but Speedriven has a terrible customer service when dealing with people who aren't local customers (I'm sure there great when dealing with local clients) but dealing with unanswered phone calls or emails is really discouraging.

On a side note next you go to Speedriven Kamil, check if they have those billet idle pulleys in stock, I tried emailing and calling them on multiple occasions with no luck. I figured I paypal a local guy in the area to buy the idle pulleys for me.
I will talk with the guys today or tomorrow. I will be picking up my car so I will def try to get you these things.

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Speedriven have been hard to deal with however i did order a trans pan and pulleys from them recently and had some decent response this time. Marcin did say they have hired someone to deal with the phone and emails so let's hope going forward things will change.
Yes Rudy works there now and he is by the phones and in the shop, and online I believe. Great guy to deal with and def gets stuff done.
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Since you still have the car and no one is buying it yet let me pick your brain

You've got a fully loaded Speedriven modded CL600TT and your dyno states:
756RWTQ
533RWHP

Renntech ECU tune alone provides around 530RWHP and 630RWTQ. How come it looks like all your gains went to torque and horsepower remained the same???
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Since you still have the car and no one is buying it yet let me pick your brain

You've got a fully loaded Speedriven modded CL600TT and your dyno states:
756RWTQ
533RWHP

Renntech ECU tune alone provides around 530RWHP and 630RWTQ. How come it looks like all your gains went to torque and horsepower remained the same???
My gains were done on a Mustang Dyno (low reading dyno) Renntech if Im not mistaken uses a Dyno Jet for marketing power numbers. I lost about 10% of that on HP and TQ. When my car went on the dyno it was with the boost leak I 'm not sure how much power I lost there and also with zero ice in the tank. I can go back to a Dyno Jet and almost bet I can make close to 600rwhp and over 800lbs of tq now. Maybe for sale purposes I just might make a trip.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 06:45 PM
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^ Do it!
I think I just might, I will make some calls and see which Dyno I can go to in the next couple weeks that is a Dyno Jet and see what I can do on them
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My gains were done on a Mustang Dyno (low reading dyno) Renntech if Im not mistaken uses a Dyno Jet for marketing power numbers. I lost about 10% of that on HP and TQ. When my car went on the dyno it was with the boost leak I 'm not sure how much power I lost there and also with zero ice in the tank. I can go back to a Dyno Jet and almost bet I can make close to 600rwhp and over 800lbs of tq now. Maybe for sale purposes I just might make a trip.
I have a bunch more mods than you & ran Ice in the reservoir, 800 rwtq is impossible w/your CURRENT mods on a properly set DynoJet. Please take this the right way I'm not bashing here but trying to share my extensive modding exp w/the 600 V12.. With the mods you are currently utilizing I will guarantee you didn't even make 756 rwtq especially w/boost leaks of any kind etc.

I know I'm forgetting a couple mods but, with a superior true CAI & your same Speedriven pkg, ecu/tcu, 3" Down Pipes, full 3" exhaust, no muffs, no cats, lightweight 2 piece rotors, light weight wheels, tweaks to wategates to add/hold boost longer & stocked full Ice in 5.5 gallon reservoir, 100 octane, topped out @ 630 whp 750 wtq on a properly setup DynoDynamics (a load bearing Dyno) same as a Mustang..

For camparo on SAME DynoDynamics w/just Dyno Tuned ECU from Jeremy OE tuning, Dwn pipes, stock airboxes gutted, Ice in Reservoir, no muffs, I ran 560 rwp 690 rwtq... Clayton, member here ran his SL600 w/my exact Dyno Tuned ECU (Jeremy of OE tuning told me on phn after the runs) on drag tires w/18" wheels everything else STOCK, he ran 11.02 @ 126+ mph showing you the power was there etc & his RWTQ was nothing close to 756..

I had few other dynos w/my current mods on an improperly set DynoJet & different DynoDynamics that showed a 700 rwhp 800+ rwtq

Load bearing dynos will show highly skewed TQ numbers IF the cars strapped down too tight, & IF exact curbweight isn't entered correctly and IF extra weight is added, like people sitting in the trunk during dyno (commonly done when dyno operators having trouble keeping these TQ monsters on the Dyno & to help it from loosing traction during the entire run)

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I have a bunch more mods than you & ran Ice in the reservoir, 800 rwtq is impossible w/your CURRENT mods on a properly set DynoJet. Please take this the right way I'm not bashing here but trying to share my extensive modding exp w/the 600 V12.. With the mods you are currently utilizing I will guarantee you didn't even make 756 rwtq especially w/boost leaks of any kind etc.

I know I'm forgetting a couple mods but, with a superior true CAI & your same Speedriven pkg, ecu/tcu, 3" Down Pipes, full 3" exhaust, no muffs, no cats, lightweight 2 piece rotors, light weight wheels, tweaks to wategates to add/hold boost longer & stocked full Ice in 5.5 gallon reservoir, 100 octane, topped out @ 630 whp 750 wtq on a properly setup DynoDynamics (a load bearing Dyno) same as a Mustang..

For camparo on SAME DynoDynamics w/just Dyno Tuned ECU from Jeremy OE tuning, Dwn pipes, stock airboxes gutted, Ice in Reservoir, no muffs, I ran 560 rwp 690 rwtq... Clayton, member here ran his SL600 w/my exact Dyno Tuned ECU (Jeremy of OE tuning told me on phn after the runs) on drag tires w/18" wheels everything else STOCK, he ran 11.02 @ 126+ mph showing you the power was there etc & his RWTQ was nothing close to 756..

I had few other dynos w/my current mods on an improperly set DynoJet & different DynoDynamics that showed a 700 rwhp 800+ rwtq

Load bearing dynos will show highly skewed TQ numbers IF the cars strapped down too tight, & IF exact curbweight isn't entered correctly and IF extra weight is added, like people sitting in the trunk during dyno (commonly done when dyno operators having trouble keeping these TQ monsters on the Dyno & to help it from loosing traction during the entire run)
How much horsepower/torque did Clayton's OE tune make?? Flat 11s is amazing and probably negative DA helped with the numbers
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How much horsepower/torque did Clayton's OE tune make?? Flat 11s is amazing and probably negative DA helped with the numbers
If memory serves 530-540 rwhp 650-660 rwtq on Prolly the same Mustang-heartbreaker it was in Chi town I think Search his posts it's here somewhere, or maybe my brutha Clayton will see this & chime in.. Claytons DA wasn't ridiculously good @ -995 his run here shows the car was making solid power though.. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23648.html

As I said, Jeremy told me he flashed Claytons rig w/my hard earned day long Dyno tune, & I'm glad he got it vs a canned tune as Clayton assumed back when it was done etc.. No 1/4 tracks remotely local to me & I wanted to see what it would do in competent hands It made huge gains under the curve on my SL of 100+ rwhp & 110+ rwtq in the meat of powerband IE not peak gains, Peak gain in hp was around 55-60 whp

My rig started life bone stock @ healthy 450 rwhp 500 rwtq on a DynoJet..

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No need to argue about #s here they are

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No need to argue about #s here they are



And here she was
Bro I'm not arguing w/you nor did I doubt for a min you actually got dyno'd w/the #'s you listed in your siggy reread my posts.. What I'm saying is the dyno machine has 1 or more of the issues I listed AGAIN below.. No way could you be suffering from boost leaks & run higher RWTQ than my SL I just remembered I'm also running 65 Black Series Fuel Injectors, or Claytons or a handful of other 600's w/your same mod setup..

Load bearing dynos will show highly skewed TQ numbers IF the cars strapped down too tight, & IF exact curbweight isn't entered correctly and IF extra weight is added, like people sitting in the trunk during dyno (commonly done when dyno operators having trouble keeping these TQ monsters on the Dyno & to help it from loosing traction during the entire run)01-07-2015 03:45 PM
Here's Jay Wades CL600 he also had more mods than you, including full speedriven setup full exhaust, trunk resi w/ice, many lightweight mods including wheels, Dyno tuned ecu/tcu etc etc he ran on properly setup DynoJet (He also was the 1st legit CL600 to hit 10.9x) His TQ#'s aren't listed due to not tapping coil.. But here you can see his rwhp isn't 10% higher than yours @ peak 525 on DynoJet & his rwtq was about 700-720 we used to talk about cars on phn etc & are friends he told me about all his mods.


If this info isn't making it clear enough for you on just how impossible it would be for you to make 756 rwtq w/boost leaks, or to daydream you'd make as you said
I can go back to a Dyno Jet and almost bet I can make close to 600rwhp and over 800lbs of tq now.
You're not going to make over 800 wtq, 35+ more rwtq than this..
Here's a BRAND new 2009 SL65 Black Series on DynoJet Pre-Post RENNtech tune: 2009 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series RENNtech DynoJet Dynamometer Results Graph
Horsepower: 630.78 HP
Torque: 765.95 ft-lbs



Notice ECU Tuned SL65 Black Series RWTQ readings? 765.95 RWTQ The SL65 Black is infinitely better than any regular 65 AMG & just kills the 600 models, how do you figure your CL600 w/boost leaks is making a legit 756 rwtq IE barely 9 RWTQ LESS than a perfectly running brand new (at the time this Dyno was done) Renntech Tuned SL65 Black Series? Come on man facts are facts.. Your cl600 only ran 122-124 mph traps, if you indeed made 756 rwtq you would've ran a ton quicker/faster period.. Again trying to help you see reality here

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