ML63

Hi,

in Germany it's usual ( I think you have to .. ) that prices are always incl. tax ( 16%).
My options are:
-DVD NAV System
-20" rims
-Ipod connector
-cellphone connector
-metallic paint ( silver )
-parking system
-bi xenon lights ( thats an option in Germany )
-sun roof
-keyless go
-memory drivers seat ( within electr. stearing wheel and mirrors )
-dark windows ( privacy glass )
-surround system
-cd changer

I would like to have distronic and comfort seats with cooling, buut it's available after the summer.

When is DC officially giving cars to the USA ? In Germany they wanted to start in April, but I think noone has its car yet !

Bye Peter

amgplayer

Congratulations on your order. We all will look forward to your review and pictures when you receive the vehicle. The earliest any member has been quoted is a build schedule of September. It is very interesting that no one has seen a production vehicle with the 63 engine yet. Please keep us informed.

ML63

I still don't know, why no car except some DC Test cars are seen yet. Even German car magazines didn't test this car yet, except some "driving short tests" with little informations. The CLK63 AMG is already been tested. I thought the ML is the first car coming with the new 6.3l engine. Hopefully threre are no problems with the ML....

I let you know when I have my car.

Bye, Peter

Dj Euro

Guys my dealer sayd , to me today ... when i went in to get some papers ..

he goes " dude your getting a 95 thousand dollar car , make sure you take me along for a test drive when it gets here....." so im assuming he might know something that i dont i think it will be in the mid to upper 90s

Mad TKD

shoooooot thats a freaking CLS or E AMG. Way too much money IMO. It had better be a freaking monster

Anyway i did some comparison of all the Top non AMG models vs the current AMG models

The base price difference between the 500 of any model to the AMG 55 model in that class is roughly 18K(lowest is C and SLK) to 25k(highest is CL)

The base price of a ML500 is roughly 50k. so you can do the math. At 90k that would mean a 40k difference and thus the highest difference in any of the AMG models. I dont see that happening. My best guess is a 20k difference in base price of the ML500 model. So maybe a ML63 will be 70-75k base.

I think dealers are trying to cover their butts by shooting you high and maybe some are trying to charge over sticker. Most know it wont be a 90-95k car.

Scruffyone

I have been thinking the same thing. We have not seen any real world reviews for the press as yet, just a few lame write ups. A friend drove a CLS63 in Germany last month and said that the suspension was a bit mushy, maybe not all of the bugs worked out of it. We are hearing soo much about the 63, but are seeing nothing.

amgplayer

Delays always means production/engineering problems. ML63's observation that the CLK63 is on the roads of Europe may indicate that the problem of integrating the 4matic, 7 speed and 500+ hp is causing this delay. No pricing means no product. A build slot of September in June means possible future delays. I'm starting to think we may see a sedan/coupe 63' before the ML as people have mentioned getting the E63 mid summer. As far as the $95K price tag, the Porsche TT has already proven itself for this kind of money and would be better selection as it can go fast and off-road. The ML63 is more of a hi-po crossover than SUV.

PhilS

You can get the German price for the ML63 by going to: http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...nger_cars.html

The go to "Konfigurator"

Next under "Modell" look for "M-Klasse".

The base price is shown as 96.164,00 euros. I can't read German, but it doesn't appear to be have as many standard features/options as the USA version.

Phil

medici78

Remember that price includes 16% in taxes.
I also agree with amgplayer. While the ML63 is impressive, on paper. It simply does not have the off-road capabilities a Cayenne would have at the same price point, which makes the Cayenne a better value for the money, IMO.

PhilS

When I thought the ML63 was going to be priced in the low $70's I was going to buy one. If the price is going to be closer to the Cayenne price I would would go for a Cayenne. And that is what I did. I bought a Cayenne Turbo about 2 months ago. It is a great ride. From the preliminary reports I have read, the ML63 has great acceleration, but it does not handle nearly as well as the Porsche. And it doesn't have the off-road capabilities of the Cayenne. I don't know why the ML63 has been so delayed. It has been shown on the Mercedes German website for many months now. Customers there were originally told they would be getting them around April. Not only have customers there not received them, the press has only got quick rides in them. No intensive tests yet.

Makes you wonder what is wrong. When Mercedes first introduced the ML63 last year they said it would be sold late spring/early summer 2006. Now, September 2006 earliest here in the USA. Instead of being an early introduction for a 2007 model, it is now going to be introduced later than their other cars. The 2007 S class and 2007 SL's are already out. Something must be goofed up and they don't want anymore bad press for poor quality cars. They delayed the introduction of the new S class for almost a year while they tried to get it right.

The Cayenne is really nice (each to their own regarding appearance) and Porsche seems to have worked out the bugs they had in the 2003's and 2004's. Owners of 2005/2006 models are not reporting many problems. And Kelly Blue Book projects that over a 5 year period the Cayenne will have the highest resale value of any SUV. It is in the top 10 of all cars in terms of resale value according to KBB.

Phil

PhilS

The 96.164,00 euros is for a vehicle without many of the accessories that come standard on the USA version. I can't read German, but it appears that the German version does not come standard with metallic paint, 20" wheels, navigation system, memory seats, upgraded radio and many other items. If you take off 16% for taxes it is still around 83.000,00 euros for a ML63 without most of the options standard on the USA model. 83.000,00 euros is equal to about $106,229 in US dollars. Wow, $106,229 for a stripped ML63. While I don't expect the ML63 to sell for that amount here, it does make you wonder if it is possible it will sell for the mid 70's here or if $80k or higher is more realistic.

Phil

ML63

I think the same regarding problems with the car. It's very unusual that no car magazine here in Germany ( especially the biggest "Auto,Motor&Sport" ) had more than a test ride. I read all the tests and they all look very similar that I don't believe that the writers did even ride the car.
I'm trying getting a test ride in Afalterbach and have been told by my dealer that they don't have a car there, yet. Sorry, but I don't trust this arbument.
Anyways, my car is on the ship, had left USA already and hopefully is here around Mid july.

I'm still a little scared that the car is not 100% like it should be. I'll see.....

bye, Peter

PS: Regarding the options and the base price: There is no metallic, no 20", no NAV System, NO Pre Safe, No XENON. We stupid Germans have to pay for all of this.....

ClayJ

ML63 arrives in the USA this August according to one of my sources with whom I talked last night.

Base price should be at $90K USD....

Scruffyone

I canceled my order. When they work the bugs out then maybe I'll get one.

55fanatic

Clay... I dont know who you exactly spoke with but dont hold your breath for august... they wont get delivered till september, and they are already IN the us... they just dont stay here

ClayJ

They're building them for ROW at the moment.

ML63

What do you mean with this ? Does they have any problems witrh the car or the engine ? Here in Germany is nothing public yet. I'll get it in 3 weeks!

ciao, Peter

Scruffyone

I don't know of any problems with the 63 engine. I just think it's strange that there are no real reviews of it at this late point. The fact that there is no MSRP here just adds to the BS factor. I look forward to your review.

ML63

Trust me I'm a little more relaxed when I finally have the car. I still can't see this car coming in 3-4 weeks.

bye Peter

ML63

I talked to my dealer and he told me the car arrived Germany last week by the ship. So, I should have it in the next 2-3 weeks.

Ciao Peter

ML 63 AMG

Post some pics ASAP

ML63

Hi AMG Fans,

I still do not have any news about my car, but talked to my sales guy and he told me that the client who'll get the first one is still waiting on his car, too. I called a dealer, who tries to sell these cars and he told me that AMG starts delivering out the cars from June 26th on....

I really don't think, I'll get my car in 2-3 weeks.

That all looks to me that there are problems with the car because they wanted start to deliver the cars out in May. . .

I'll get a phone call tomorrow after my sales guy talked to the AMG MAN, who is responsible for our area here.

Give you Infos than....

Ciao, Peter

amgplayer

Thanks for the update. The saga continues....

BoBcanada

By the way i was bored and started to compare ML63 to other cars, and ML63 is just as fast to 200 km/h or 120 mph as RS6! Thats awesome. And only a second away from CUrrent E55!

The only dissapointment i have with this car is that it doesnt have leather dash!

CUrrently i have ml350 and love it, and im considering ML63 as my next car!

P.s I wanna hear ml63 with deleted resonators!

medici78

Well, I gave up on the ML63. Decided on an ML320CDI instead. It was for my wife anyway. She said she didnt need the extra power of the 63 and it wasnt worth the extra expense, not to mention the CDI will get me double the mpg. Who am I to argue? lol