1/4 time for ml63?
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1/4 time for ml63?
I'm bored so here it goes 
I found that Ml63 does 0-60 in 4.8 and 0-120 in 17 sec, rs6 does 0-120 in around 17.3 so ml63 is faster. Now on dragtimes avarage 1/4 time for rs6 is from 12.6 to 12.8 @ 108 mph. So what do you think ml63 would run same time? I think it should be able to run 12.6 or 7 with 108 or 110 mph!
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
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I found that Ml63 does 0-60 in 4.8 and 0-120 in 17 sec, rs6 does 0-120 in around 17.3 so ml63 is faster. Now on dragtimes avarage 1/4 time for rs6 is from 12.6 to 12.8 @ 108 mph. So what do you think ml63 would run same time? I think it should be able to run 12.6 or 7 with 108 or 110 mph! http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
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I don't think it would be that fast, because you're going to run into those nasty laws of physics again. The drag and mass of this vehicle begin to take a serious toll as speed increases, and with a Cayenne TT listed at 13.3 (I couldn't find posted times for a CTTS, but did find a TechArt Cayenne with 500+ HP that shaved the 0-60 but couldn't do much to the 1/4), I think it might be only a bit faster.
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.....I am actually interested in this topic although I do not have an ML63. I currently have a modified 05 G55K that has the unofficial record of being the fastest Mercedes 4x4 with a 1/4 mile time of 12.9. I know my reign will not be for ever. I however doubt that in stock form, the ML63 will be that fast.
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Originally Posted by crjag
I don't think it would be that fast, because you're going to run into those nasty laws of physics again. The drag and mass of this vehicle begin to take a serious toll as speed increases, and with a Cayenne TT listed at 13.3 (I couldn't find posted times for a CTTS, but did find a TechArt Cayenne with 500+ HP that shaved the 0-60 but couldn't do much to the 1/4), I think it might be only a bit faster.
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
Im lazy to search the #s but cayenne weight much more than ml! plus ML63 has 7 gears if it geared right it might be very fast! But im no drag race expert!
The curb weight of the Cayenne Turbo is 5192#
The Cayenne Turbo has a 6 speed Tiptronic S transmission
Car & Driver magazine test results of the Cayenne Turbo: 1/4 mile 13.5 sec @ 104 MPH //// 0 to 60 MPH 5.0 sec
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Originally Posted by PhilS
The curb weight of the ML63 is 5093#
The curb weight of the Cayenne Turbo is 5192#
The Cayenne Turbo has a 6 speed Tiptronic S transmission
Car & Driver magazine test results of the Cayenne Turbo: 1/4 mile 13.5 sec @ 104 MPH //// 0 to 60 MPH 5.0 sec
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The curb weight of the Cayenne Turbo is 5192#
The Cayenne Turbo has a 6 speed Tiptronic S transmission
Car & Driver magazine test results of the Cayenne Turbo: 1/4 mile 13.5 sec @ 104 MPH //// 0 to 60 MPH 5.0 sec
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Also, C&D is notorious for having the fastest times of any car site/mag, I think Autoweek tends to have more realistic times. They list CTT at 5.19 0-60 right in line with Porsche time of 5.2. CTTS listed at 4.8, but note that CTTS has greater torque than ML63 until later in the rev band, probably after ro is reached, whereas ML^# holds on to torque later, so could be CTTS faster 0-60, ML63 faster in 1/4? or at least closing gap...
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
nope the difference is 440 pounds or exactly 200 KG taken from official AMG and Porsche sites.
Do your homework.
Do your homework.
I also confirmed my numbers at the USA websites for MBUSA and PCNA. They both show the same curb weights I quoted. Maybe you need to do your homework.
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In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?id=6379
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?id=6379
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?id=6379
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
In the Canadian site the ML63 is listed as 5230lbs, even porkier that the US version, maybe they put in extra insulations for the Canadian winters.
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Originally Posted by PhilS
Which makes the ML63 38lbs heavier than the Canadian version of the Cayenne Turbo (5192lbs). I would expect the Cayenne to weigh more since it has true off-road capabilities (that the ML63 does not). Wonder why the ML63 weighs so much?
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No but seriously from what i heard and read few articles they said that ML63 is lighter than cayenne turbo?!
Canadian benz site lists ml63 @ 2370 kg
European Porsche site lists cayenne S @ 2,430 kg
So they ARE about the same weight i think all that extra ML weight has somtihng to do with ML handling.
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Maybe its a marketing move? They make you think that ML63 is as heavy as cayenne but yet it is faster then cayenne? lol <-- if that makes sense lol
No but seriously from what i heard and read few articles they said that ML63 is lighter than cayenne turbo?!
Canadian benz site lists ml63 @ 2370 kg
European Porsche site lists cayenne S @ 2,430 kg
So they ARE about the same weight i think all that extra ML weight has somtihng to do with ML handling.
No but seriously from what i heard and read few articles they said that ML63 is lighter than cayenne turbo?!
Canadian benz site lists ml63 @ 2370 kg
European Porsche site lists cayenne S @ 2,430 kg
So they ARE about the same weight i think all that extra ML weight has somtihng to do with ML handling.
I don't know if the weight has to do with handling. It just seems that MB makes heavy cars. I can't believe how much our SL weighs.
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well dont forget that Cayenne turbo S has 520 hp and 500 ft of trq!
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the decisive factor would be gearing.
does anyone know the max speed in gears for cayenne and ml63?
i had calculated ml63's based on ratios, final drive and tire size som etime back but tossed the data.
if you really want a crazy 1/4 mile time - buy a ml63. get 19" rims , mount 295/30 tires and go for it.
does anyone know the max speed in gears for cayenne and ml63?
i had calculated ml63's based on ratios, final drive and tire size som etime back but tossed the data.
if you really want a crazy 1/4 mile time - buy a ml63. get 19" rims , mount 295/30 tires and go for it.
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
Well they build ml63 to compete with turbo S as far as i know.
The Porsche first came out in 2003. The ML63 as a 2007. Will Porsche take the game to a new level with their 2008 model??
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Originally Posted by PhilS
The Porsche first came out in 2003. The ML63 as a 2007. Will Porsche take the game to a new level with their 2008 model??
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Oh yeah i bet new cayenne will be much better! no question about it.
But then again what surprises me is that 520 hp turbo S is still slower 2 seconds to 200 km/h!
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Oh yeah i bet new cayenne will be much better! no question about it.
But then again what surprises me is that 520 hp turbo S is still slower 2 seconds to 200 km/h!
But then again what surprises me is that 520 hp turbo S is still slower 2 seconds to 200 km/h!
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RE: Thread: 1/4 time for ml63?
Was just looking up this info before first track day tomorrow. This is super old thread but I’ll report back. 2013 ML63 w/mods.
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