BoBcanada

Yea no way SRT can be faster, i mean you have to know how to launch your E55k because it has so much torque! Most of the magazines did from 4.2 to 4.6 seconds, no way SRT can be that fast!

MKB-C32

Don't look at the #, the real life is diff. than what they are advertise.

MKB-C32

I know how to ride my beast.

LQQK here and show me where is the 4.2

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7YjRPLfuZxc

terrence

Sure. Both having the same 5-speed automatic, the 425hp 4400lb SRT-8 is faster than the 469hp 4000lb E55. Makes perfect sense.

By the way, I own an E55 and have driven an SRT-8. My car is so much faster its not even comparable.

Vic55

What is your definition of faster, mine is trap speed. Real life numbers show the E55 to be much faster (go to drag times.com) - but lets not continue with the Apples to Oranges comparo. For its class the SRT8 is a heavy hitter.

MKB-C32

0-60

I posted a Vid for you guys to see the real # for the E55 W211

Ted Baldwin

........not sure what yur argument is. Are you saying that the jeep is faster because it has 0-60 time less 4.5 or are you saying that the W211 E55 is slower than 4.5sec from 0-60? Does later does not even make sense because if you concede that the W211 does the 1/4 mile in 12.5 secs, then that places the 0-60 time at 4.5 secs. Except if you are saying that the car crawls to 60mph in over 5 secs and then suddenly explodes at faster the speed of light in order to make it to the 1/4 mile at 12.5 secs. You seem to be arguing now for arguing sake, not really looking for factual information. Posting a single video in another language is hardly proof. You may be related to Gustav.

Ted

Riffyb

This is the longest coolest thread ive ever posted!

MKW

If you are that paranoid, you shouldn't be in ANY roll-over prone high center of gravity SUV to begin with ,no matter what anti-rollover tech like on ,say,the Volvo XC90 and should be spending ML63 dollars on an S550 !

MKB-C32

I’m not arguing with any body, the guy asked a clear question, and I give him my answer, based on test not reading magazines…then another member said the car is doing 0-60 in 4.2 that’s why I posted the Vid. If you don’t understand Germany it is not my problem but its clear and writing in English the E55 did the 0-60 in 5.2
I never imagine some one hear will give me an excuse like yours (Posting a single video in another language is hardly proof)
Any way I trying to give my thought with a fact but you didn’t believe, so it is your problem and I don’t care

G55 doing 4.7!! This is another story

Ted Baldwin

............I didn't mean to offend you. I don't know how familiar you are with car performance stats. After sometime you notice the gist. There is a general pattern. Cars that run mid 13's have 0-60 at 5.0-5.2 secs. Those that run 13's have 0-60 4.7 to 5secs. Those that run mid to high 12's have 0-60 4.3-4.7secs. Those that run low 12's have 0-60 3.9-4.3 secs. Those that run in the 11's all have sub 4 sec 0-60. Of course, this is not commandment from God, but it generally follows. This allows you to notice stuff that doesn't make sense right away. For instance a car that runs mid 13's in the 1/4 mile is not going to do 0-60 in 4.5 secs, except if he used nitrous in the middle of his 1/4 mile run. Similarl;y, a car that runs 12.5 secs in the 1/4 mile is not going to do 0-60 in 5.2 secs. If you see that written somewhere, you immediately know that it doesn't make sense. This will prompt you to look at other tests for the W211 E55, following which you'll quickly realize the error.5.2 sec 0-60 is slower than a W210 E55.

..........if you follow that logic the 4.7 sec 0-60 for the stock G55 makes perfect sense, since it does the 1/4 mile in 13.2 secs stock. Beyond that, here are the test results. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...iew_specs.html

Ted

BoBcanada

ok so car with almost 500 hp and 516 ft of trq does it in 5.2 eh? Ok... I wont even try to argue with you because you are one of those people who just want to belive what you want to belive. I had 05 E55 and i know for sure it was much much faster than 5.2 seconds....I do Unerstand GERMANY and I do read lots of magazines and it is clear that the car running low 12s in 1/4 cannot be a low 5 second car 0-60.

[rant] People like that **** me off[/rant]

Mercedes said the G55 AMG accelerates from zero to 62 mph in 5.5 seconds and has a maximum speed of 130 mph

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116349

Ted Baldwin

...........if the 5.5sec figure is correct, then you would expect a 1/4 mile time in the in low 14 sec range. As you can see the acrual test results are quite different and quite consistent with expected figures given trapspeed, 1/4 mile times and weight of the car. The G55 was tested against the Cayenne Turbo, the Toureg and the X5 and the results published. Why Mercedes understates performance figures for its cars is unclear to me, but they do. This is why everyone was suprised by the E63. It is not that the car is not fast, it is just that it was expected to be even faster than Mercedes stated, given that Mercedes usually under estimates performance stats

..........Yes I think MKB-C32 is mistaken about the W211 E55

Ted

Fikse

this slip just came in for the SRT8, 12.8 @ 108....

http://www.dragtimes.com/Jeep-Cherok...lip-10506.html

Ted Baldwin

............wow!! if that is stock, then that is simply incredible. I kinda doubt it is stock. The trapspeed is 108mph and the car has 426 crank HP. Great run either way.

Ted

BoBcanada

+1

Fikse

looks like it has some exhaust work, says resonator deleted..... also was 41 degrees.... nice and cool....

crjag

I see you have posted your slip for your E55. The SRT8 driver has not. These are two completely different animals, in two completely different classes, and both drivers can enjoy their vehicles. From a vehicle dynamics standpoint, the sedan is likely to win in any reasonable comparison. You do get something for the extra $$. Plus, when the SRT8 first came out, the speculators bought them all up and were re-selling on Ebay for $75k. At that price, there is no comparison with the MB.

F10 M5

the srt8 can go 0-60 wet or dry depending on conditions 4.5-5.0. however if the M5 and E55 don't hook up then the srt8 will beat them. from a roll, say 40 or 60 to 100, there is no contest, the jeep will be several car lenghts behind but not bad for a jeep thou. the jeep traps 102-105 in the quarter where the M5 can trap 115-118 and the e55 traps around 113-115.

FYI -the jeep srt8 has even a faster 0-40 time then the new viper. its all about traction and gearing down low.

Improviz

That's a pretty narrow definition of "faster"! 0-60 times are very dependent upon factors other than the vehicle's power and weight, such as driver skill, traction, condition of road surface, and other intangibles.

You think that one video is the be-all, end-all? Come on...anyone could take an E55, put some measuring equipment in it, disable the traction control, and simply floor the gas pedal with no modulation, and they'd probably run 0-60 a full second or more slower than the car is capable of doing. Why? Because:

- the car would not get good traction, instead spinning wildly all through first gear and upshifting early to second gear;

- once it shifted into second gear at too low of a speed, it would bog and not accelerate nearly as rapidly as it would in first.

Now, what would this little exercise "prove"? Would it establish, contrary to each and every article that's been published, that the E55 when driven properly is *not* a low 4 second 0-60 car?

No. Of course not. No way, Jose!

Because it's been demonstrated time and time and time and time again that it is.

Because one run, by itself, does not somehow erase all of the other runs on the books. They still happened.

Yes, MKB-C32; by all means, go to dragtimes.com, and also have a look at the following video. This is a bone stock E55 running a 12.07 @ 116.33 1/4 mile.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7808.html

Now then, do the following: go to any car magazine, and find me a car that has run a low 12 second 1/4 mile that didn't run 0-60 in 4.5 or better. In fact, you will see that typically, the cars running 12.0 are getting 0-60 times around 4.0.

Good luck!

7 speed SMG

I don't know if this is stock or not but either way its seriously quick...

http://media.putfile.com/Atco-64

Fikse

wow.... I told the wife we are trading in her RX330 for the Cherokee SRT8....

F10 M5

in that video I belive that guy used a 75 shot of NOS to get that time. stock times are around 13.1-13.5 in the quarter and traps are around 102-105. anything below or above that has been modded

7 speed SMG

I was in shock when i thought that this SRT-8 was stock, and now that i know he was a 75 shot i still can't believe my eyes...

Fikse

yea, headers, exhaust and nitrous....


http://www.dragtimes.com/Jeep-Cherok...lip-10542.html


there is a $7k supercharger package for these as well..... 500/500 hp and tq to the ground with it....