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I didn't know that - but what you can say as your argument is that you paid all this money for customization - that it would take a long time to produce that it required a 2015 build. You're not once in a blue moon customer and I hate to bring this factor in - you aren't buying C Classes.
The tires are $400 or so a pop (probably 300 for the dealer if that!)
For $1200 - they can do you a favor on a $160,000 car to insure smoothness.
Naturally all this can be said very nicely haha.
See what they say - or compromise to do a 50/50 cost split. You spoke so highly of them - I'm sure they aren't going to go to the mattress on this.
It;s the very essence of the S Class....a comfortable right.
Thanks Chucky300. They already had agreed many months ago when I ordered my car that they would replace the tires if I wanted to. At first, I told them I wanted the tires replaced immedialty before I took delivery. They said they would do that or I could do it at any time after I got my car.
I am going to ask what happens to the old tires if I get the new ones, and do I have the option of putting the run flats back on. I did not ask that.
I just want to make sure I am going to want to keep the conventional tires before I have them replace the run flats. I don't want to be unfair and just have them replace the run flats just to check it out, if I don't honestly feel I am going to keep them.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-06-2014 at 01:21 PM.
You can't compare MBC in a S550 with MBC in S65 or Airmatic in a S550 vs. S63. Just like the ABC in AMG and non-AMG cars before since the suspension settings are calibrated differently, no matter the wheels.
As such, one will experience a different ride even if the cars use the same wheel/tire combos.
That said, forged wheels are great but will have no impact on ride quality. The car will feel more agile and steering lighter.
Runflats will always provide a harsher ride quality than a non-run flat no matter the size due to their stiffer sidewall construction.
Mercedes has definitely tell done a better job than BMW with their run flats, but I swapped them out on both brands and the ride quality improved.
You can't compare MBC in a S550 with MBC in S65 or Airmatic in a S550 vs. S63. Just like the ABC in AMG and non-AMG cars before since the suspension settings are calibrated differently, no matter the wheels.
As such, one will experience a different ride even if the cars use the same wheel/tire combos.
That said, forged wheels are great but will have no impact on ride quality. The car will feel more agile and steering lighter.
Runflats will always provide a harsher ride quality than a non-run flat no matter the size due to their stiffer sidewall construction.
Mercedes has definitely tell done a better job than BMW with their run flats, but I swapped them out on both brands and the ride quality improved.
I understand and frankly, this does not surprise me that you can't isolate all the variables that easily. Thank you.
In preparation for this potential change to conventional tires, I was looking at the trunk space and trying to understand where are the tools would go with the conventional tires. I see in the Owners Manual two configurations. This is what I have but without the tire sealant (1) or compressor (2). Then there is this with the AMG cars. The question is whether or not there is a styrofoam insert that can be purchased that just goes with all this equipment or is something more required.
I am sure that the styrofoam inserts can be purchased but the lower one with with the jack is of no use unless you plan to buy a small spare. As for the compressor I like the Conti trie fit kit which includes the compressor and I personally like that one better than then MB compressor unit we used to have. The shape/sizes are differ t though and won't fit the styrofoam.
I am sure that the styrofoam inserts can be purchased but the lower one with with the jack is of no use unless you plan to buy a small spare. As for the compressor I like the Conti trie fit kit which includes the compressor and I personally like that one better than then MB compressor unit we used to have. The shape/sizes are differ t though and won't fit the styrofoam.
I was thinking of buying this tire for long trips. I would probably have to take out the refrigerator, which is easy, but I think it might be worth the comfort of knowing I have a good solution to a flat. I wouldn't do the retrofit with all the anchors, but I would just get the tire and cover.
This is the retrofit for the trunk that MB has for a spare.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-06-2014 at 03:59 PM.
I was thinking of buying this tire for long trips. I would probably have to take out the refrigerator, which is easy, but I think it might be worth the comfort of knowing I have a good solution to a flat. I wouldn't do the retrofit with all the anchors, but I would just get the tire and cover.
This is the retrofit for the trunk that MB has for a spare.
That makes sense from a peace of mind perspective. Hope you'll never have to use it
Does anyone know what the "towing eye" is used for?
On both the front and rear bumpers there are little plastic covers that you can remove. There is a place to screw the towing eye into the car's frame at these locations.
When the car is towed, you hook the end of the towing cable into the eye and pull the car onto the flat bed.
This is much safer than trying to hook the towing cable onto the bottom of the car which will damage the front bumper.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-07-2014 at 06:21 PM.
Well, to tow the car out of a difficult spot or to pull it onto a flatbed since you actually tow these cars.
Remove the small square bumper cover and screw into bumper.
I am sure that the styrofoam inserts can be purchased but the lower one with with the jack is of no use unless you plan to buy a small spare.
I went to the dealership today and looked at the S550, S63 and S65 trunks and apparently, the styrofoam is not interchangeable. Very surprised.
If you look at the picture below, which is the trunk area of the S550 underneath the liner, you can see that it is completely different than that of the S63/65. The main difference is that in the S550, you have the battery installed where the styrofoam goes with all the tools in the S63/S65.
I really was surprised by this. I didn't think these cars varied that much, but apparently they do. Wonder where this battery is in the S63/S65.
Anyone know what the round metal bulb like structure is in the S550 trunk.
Picture of S550 trunk with battery
Picture of S63/S65 trunk with no battery in this location
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-08-2014 at 02:59 PM.
Just wanted to take advantage of this discussion and pose the following question (prior to opening the user manual):
What is that?
From what I gathered, and this is a guess, I think it has to do some option. I would think it had to, because I noticed some have it, and others do not. It is not particular to a specific model either.
First, I thought it was the upgraded 3D stereo, but then that did not correlate to the cars I saw.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-07-2014 at 08:17 PM.
I went to the dealership today and looked at the S550, S63 and S65 trunks and apparently, the styrofoam is not interchangeable. Very surprised. If you look at the picture below, which is the trunk area of the S550 underneath the liner, you can see that it is completely different than that of the S63/65. The main difference is that in the S550, you have the battery installed where the styrofoam goes with all the tools in the S63/S65. I really was surprised by this. I didn't think these cars varied that much, but apparently they do. Wonder where this battery is in the S63/S65. Anyone know what the round metal bulb like structure is in the S550 trunk. Picture of S550 trunk with battery Picture of S63/S65 trunk with no battery in this location
That is interesting. I do recall that the AMG's use a weight saving lithium ion battery that is located above the rear axle (access from the inside?) and the carbon fiber box in the trunk as shown.
I guess you will have to wrap the jack/tools in some kind of cloth that can double as a mat when changing the tire.
You can't compare MBC in a S550 with MBC in S65 or Airmatic in a S550 vs. S63.
I now have finally had a chance to test drive, back to back, my S550, a S63 and a S65, all on the exact same roads.
I did this to try to understand how the respective rides felt for the purpose of making a final decision on my run flats.
The consensus has been that this is not a worthy exercise, because each of the cars has a different suspension and aspects to their build.
I now understand. My S550, with run flats, drove much more smoothly than both the S65 and the S63. I was told this was by design, although I really did not expect to experience this. It was obvious. This was both on smooth roads and over road imperfections and pot holes.
Clearly, those that said this comparison would not be a worthy comparison were correct.
The dealer said that the conventional tires on my S550 would definitely be an even softer and smoother ride then the run flats.
My question is, if the ride is already better than the S63 and the S65, then should I change? The only thing that worries me is the lack of a spare. At least with the run flats, you have 50 miles at 50 MPH.
Oh, what to do.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-09-2014 at 11:20 PM.
I now have finally had a chance to test drive, back to back, my S550, a S63 and a S65, all on the exact same roads.
I did this to try to understand how the respective rides felt for the purpose of making a final decision on my run flats.
The consensus has been that this is not a worthy exercise, because each of the cars has a different suspension and aspects to their build.
I now understand. My S550, with run flats, drove much more smoothly than both the S65 and the S63. I was told this was by design, although I really did not expect to experience this. It was obvious. This was both on smooth roads and over road imperfections and pot holes.
Clearly, those that said this comparison would not be a worthy comparison were correct.
The dealer said that the conventional tires on my S550 would definitely be an even softer and smoother ride then the run flats.
My question is, if the ride is already better than the S63 and the S65, then should I change? The only thing that worries me is the lack of a spare. At least with the run flats, you have 50 miles at 50 MPH.
Oh, what to do.
Switch!
I've had two flats. Tow truck came - took to dealer - replaced for free and delivered car back. I do my best now to miss potholes.
Really very very good ride with the conventional. I would not go back.
Switch!
I've had two flats. Tow truck came - took to dealer - replaced for free and delivered car back. I do my best now to miss potholes.
Really very very good ride with the conventional. I would not go back.
I'd second that, I'm very happy with my switch to conventional tires. I bought a Slime 70005 safety spair kit from an online tire store to deal with any flats/punctures.
sorry I might have missed it but is that steering wheel an option for the sedans? I thought sedans are only available with two spoke steering wheel
I was able to get the steering wheel because I did a PA4 custom special order designo interior. It is not available in the sedan in the US.
I believe there is a possibility that the sport coupe steering wheel will be available in the sedan for 2016 on all AMG models and packages. For 2015, it is not available in the sedan in the US, but is available in Europe.
Last edited by LovinMercedes; 12-12-2014 at 10:56 AM.
How does one go about special ordering an interior that is not on file? ie. Porcelain/Black in an S Coupe instead of the ugly Porcelain/Mocha offered.
Thank you
You will have to contact the dealer and ask them to contact MB region or corporate for a PA1 custom ordered interior.
This will delay your production date by approximately 6-8 weeks, in addition to your already scheduled production date, a $2,500 PA1 custom order charge and then, whatever MB charges you to make the change.
12-06-2014, 12:20 PM
haha
