Some spy shots have come in for the 2016 bmw 7-series...and what a joke. Even though its still in prototype phase, its coming up pretty close to final version. Just imagine some more wood and leather.

Reaffirms S-class as category leader. The current F02 7 is nice (I have a 2014 750) but nowhere near S territory. Enjoy (and cringe for BMW)!

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/11/scoop-new-2016-bmw-7-series-g11-opens.html?m=1

Disappointing.

Looks like Bangle Butt is alive and well. Too bad. I guess BMW's selling too many 1/3 series to care.

The center stack seems to be an improvement over the outgoing car...BUT I still don't care for the screen sticking up out of it like that. The instrument cluster still looks like it's straight from the 1980s. Even the "updated" center stack feels somewhat dated for this level of car.

It might be a good competitor to the current W212 (E-Class), except that the BMW 7 is $20k more and in theory is BMW's answer to the W222. I wouldn't want to be a BMW dealer trying to sell these next to a Merc dealer.

Interesting to see 3 different push-to-stop buttons. No doubt BMW's trying to catch up to Merc's Distronic+ Steering Assist. I think I see a laser sensor on the grille, so they're going to have a heck of a time making it happen. The radar sensors Merc is using provide so much more detail and information....and don't get overloaded by sunlight.

I think the W222 shows Merc's been listening to its owners. German interiors have traditionally been spartan and plain compared to just about everyone else. Well-built of good materials, but lacking in style. The W221 had some nice styling but still felt very German. The W222 is Rolls/Bentley territory, at a bargain price. Keep in mind the outgoing W221 was more expensive than the W222.

Yuck. Looks like a stretched 5 series. I am surprised there is no new gen XJ or new gen LS yet.

B O R I N G looking car...

WOW... I can't image they messed things up this much.

That really did not look good.

terribly premature to judge this vehicle.

I don't think it looks bad at this point (albeit a bit bland)

$100k is a lot of money for a bland car.

+1 to this.

well if it happens to drive brilliantly, then I can handle a bit of bland.

Hilarious, you guys don't even know what the final product will look like. You're writing the car off based on a some camo/spy shots?

M

i've come to this opinion because it looks like this is truly not a revolutionary design that Bmw is going for. They either they do something fantastically different to compete with the S class or this. Unfortunately, they chose this. Just frok the spy shots we get a clear indication of what they will soon release in 9 months, just how the S spy shots made it pretty clear as well...just look up old threads.

Regarding handling of the car, it does not handle anywhere near as good as the S class. Take it from me, i've owned a 7-series since 2002 and S-classes since 2000 simultaneously. Oddly enough, my favorite 7 was a 2002 745 LI. And I car got a lot of hate.

Yes

The interior...I'm lost for words...

If it were anything close to the Vision Luxury Concept interior, it'd be much more exciting.

who has the pix??

With an interior that looks like that, it really does not mater what the outside looks like!

What interior pic are you looking at? You've seen the final design and finish or are you looking a prototype that isn't nearly being production? I hope no one is expecting BMW to match the S interior, that simply won't happen. BMW interiors have been the same in design and presentation for the last 20+ years.

M

I happen to like it. I actually love it. Can't wait to get myself in one.

Agreed 100%. I think people forget the W222 rides on essentially the same platform as the W221. Also, the Benz V12 is an antique compared to its' BMW counterpart. One can go back and forth all day. You can bet BMW will release a solid competitor to the S.

But as always, the 7 will always be #2.

someone post a link?

New pics
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...odays-car-news

I have to wait and see the the final product without a face-mask b4 I pass judgement.

Reads like the same BS that KA contributed. Same wheelbase does not equal same platform...

As for BMW engines, I have a 750li that already had to have their injectors replaced in under 20k miles.
IMO, BMW's V8/V12 engines are greatly inferior to MB's offerings. BMW forums are full of problems with their engines running too hot, carbon build-ups, rough idling and short engine lifespans.
I consider MB's V8 their high point. Virtually anything else will break on the car before the engine has issues.

That said BMW doesn't spend anywhere the amount of resources and focus on the 7 as Mercedes does on it's S-Class.
Mercedes develops technologies to flow top-down it's model range.
BMW focuses it's development $ on the mid-range (5 series) and then creates an up-market model.

I am sure the new 7 will be a great improvement over the current model, but we'll see how closely it follows the 5 series (with some catch-up electronic tidbits)

and more
http://www.carscoops.com/2014/11/new...ring-full.html