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Leftover '15 Discounts For In Stock Vehicles

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Old 11-03-2015, 11:40 AM
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Some were probably "punched" for October and will have some extra money on them. May even be able to buy a new S550 as a CPO if that happened.
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Some were probably "punched" for October and will have some extra money on them. May even be able to buy a new S550 as a CPO if that happened.
Do explain more? Why would one buy a car CPO that is new?
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Just got the news. Trunk money did not increase for November. Dealers were quite surprised hoping to use this money to move cars. Will have to wait until December for any possible change.

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The sales GM at my MB store suggested that MBNA may just leave the dealers hanging, forcing them to fend for themselves. Apparently there is enough profit in the line-up for individual dealers to balance out their own P&Ls. Some dealers have gotten greedy and refused to deal on 2015s thru out the year. Time to pay to piper, so to speak.
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my dealer here told me the lease pull ahead program for the S class this month is 5 months, they will pay up to 5 months of your existing MB lease towards another lease
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Originally Posted by dbtk
The sales GM at my MB store suggested that MBNA may just leave the dealers hanging, forcing them to fend for themselves. Apparently there is enough profit in the line-up for individual dealers to balance out their own P&Ls. Some dealers have gotten greedy and refused to deal on 2015s thru out the year. Time to pay to piper, so to speak.
I'm trying to translate this into something I understand. Are you saying that MBUSA might give nothing in December forcing dealerships to take big losses on 2015 S classes to move units. This loss will be made up through other more profitable cars?

Also are you suggesting that they should have been more willing to haggle a few months ago and now that the cars are older and we have 2016's on the lots it's gonna cost them more (in losses)

Seems hard to negotiate on a car when the dealer it taking the loss. Have one dealership only giving me 12% off on a 2015. what a joke! I'm at 11% off custom order new.

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Yes, from what j understood from my conversation is that MBNA is not obligated to move cars for individual stores. I fact, he said that MBNA already considers a car "sold" when it is shipped to a store. Special orders and spec floor models are treated the same.

I originally did not believe him when I was negotiating to buy my S in Oct or to wait till Nov. the fact that no new money came out and the risk that MF will increase and residuals decline (on 2015s) reinforces his statement. Dealers now have a fresh GLC, GLE and soon the C coupe as well as the evergreen E and C to make profits. S sedans are not a money maker or volume leader.

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I'm trying to translate this into something I understand. Are you saying that MBUSA might give nothing in December forcing dealerships to take big losses on 2015 S classes to move units. This loss will be made up through other more profitable cars?

Also are you suggesting that they should have been more willing to haggle a few months ago and now that the cars are older and we have 2016's on the lots it's gonna cost them more (in losses)

Seems hard to negotiate on a car when the dealer it taking the loss. Have one dealership only giving me 12% off on a 2015. what a joke! I'm at 11% off custom order new.
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Originally Posted by dbtk
S sedans are not a money maker or volume leader.
Yes, but trying to convince a dealer to take a loss on a car is hard. I think they are crazy to think some dumb a$$ is going to come in and drop 6 figures on a car and not know what it's worth. If you have that type of money you're typically smart and you know what it's worth. Just going to tell this dealer every month you wait it gets harder to sell and you eat fees for it being on the lot.
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If you like, you can try my Connecticut dealer, however, shipping will probably cost $1000+ to AZ. I know that my dealer in San Francisco is willing to take at lease $20,000 off whatever they have in S class stock over $120K MSRP. Both will give you buy rate money factors and honor any bonus or savings certificates that you may have.
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Do explain more? Why would one buy a car CPO that is new?
It is a perk for somebody like me who drives a lot. Unlimited mileage warranty with an extra year.
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Originally Posted by icebeam
Just got the news. Trunk money did not increase for November. Dealers were quite surprised hoping to use this money to move cars. Will have to wait until December for any possible change.
Where does one find info on available trunk money? Or do you know because you work at a dealership?
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My 2016 custom order was 12% off. I could BARELY manage that discount on a fully loaded 2015 that had way more options than I could ever need (and almost $130k). I was truly surprised. BUT I am totally happy with my 2016 so yahoo for a newer car. My dealer had 14 s550s from 2015 still in stock as of a few days ago........ that seems like a TON.
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my dealer here told me the lease pull ahead program for the S class this month is 5 months, they will pay up to 5 months of your existing MB lease towards another lease
My dealer told me only 3 months for S class. Can someone verify that?
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15 vs 16

Dealers now have ability to pull forward leases up to 5 months on both 15 and 16 leases. When looking at a 15 vs 16 be very careful to look at the residual difference which is 4%. In my case it made more sense to go for a new 16 vs a carryover 15.
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I posted under "LAP" in which I received an offer from MBFS through my local MB stores for 5 months pull forward.
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5 pull ahead for nov. and we have a 10% discount on remaining 15's
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5 pull ahead for nov. and we have a 10% discount on remaining 15's
Are you with Nashville MB off of Bakers Bridge?
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Originally Posted by Nashville
5 pull ahead for nov. and we have a 10% discount on remaining 15's
With that level of discount, as compared to what others are reporting, you will be sitting on them for a long time.
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pulled the trigger today on a '15 S550V4, 17.2% discount, MF .00045, lease pull forward 5 months

diamond white on porcelain nappa, drivers assist pkg/distronic, premium 1, heads up display, sport pkg, 20" amg wheels, surround view

very pleased
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Steinhart, congrats. How does your deal work out on monthly basis? Upfront charges?
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Steinhart, congrats. How does your deal work out on monthly basis? Upfront charges?
thanks dbtk! going from an E to an S is like night and day

117700 MSRP, 97500 after discount, 1229/month 3800 upfront which included plates and first month payment
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Steinhart, great deal! I did the same. I returned my 2014 E320 4matic lease for the S. Definitely a step change. However, I was getting accustomed to the size of the E around town and parking lots. Enjoy.
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Steinhart, great deal! I did the same. I returned my 2014 E320 4matic lease for the S. Definitely a step change. However, I was getting accustomed to the size of the E around town and parking lots. Enjoy.
definitely a bigger car, I drive mostly freeways so the size doesn't really matter, love the ride way more comfortable then the E, seats are amazing
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Originally Posted by Steinhart
pulled the trigger today on a '15 S550V4, 17.2% discount, MF .00045, lease pull forward 5 months

diamond white on porcelain nappa, drivers assist pkg/distronic, premium 1, heads up display, sport pkg, 20" amg wheels, surround view

very pleased
30 months or 36 months? 10 or 12k miles?
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