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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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This is the kind of work HPS does!

Before installing the new Kleemann Supercharger System. Kleemann USA Inc in Colorado Springs is currently correcting all the previous work that was done to my car.
The picture below is only one of many parts found that where broken, either during the installation or after the car was put back to stock. This clearly shows a lack of technical expertise and care in the installation of aftermarket products by HPS. I have a list of other problems caused by the installation of the previous Super Charger system, either during the installation or durning the removal.
The following are items found after Kleemann ran a diagnostic test on my car.

The following systems "failed" the preliminary "short test"

Electronic transmission control
Motor Electronics 2.8
Electronic stability program
Pneumatic equipment
Headlamp range adjustment
Instrument cluster
COMAND unit

I have no reason to believe that Kleeman would intentionally damage any part. Nor would I believe that they would tell me anything that was not accurate.

As the progress continues I will post my findings.
Tim

Old Feb 13, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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there goes timmy's comeback and its a good one....a pic is worth a million words..

HPS u guys got pics to back it up?!
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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What is that a picture of and how is it broken?
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
What is that a picture of and how is it broken?
Here's Kleemanns explanation of the broken part and it's function.

It is missing the outlet barb- making the entire
variable length intake system non-functional. The "relaxed" or no
vacuum state is like WOT- So you had short intakes all the time.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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M112 (V6) and M113 (V8) engies have dual length intake runners. There is an electronic "switchover valve" that allows a vacuum signal to reach a dash pot which articulates a lever which changes from long runner length to shot. The picture is of the bottom end of the switchover valve. It should have a nipple on the end facing the camera, it does not. Timsers car had a slight bog or surge at approx 3500 RPM at part loads- this is the switchover time. With no vacuum signal reaching the dash pot this system was non-functional.

This problem coupled with various other broken or ill fitting bits and parts on the intake system made the car unable to properly adjust its part load fuel adaptions, run properly, store various ECM fault codes etc.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Is Kleemann doing all these corrections free of charge?
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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I have a question and I don't want to incite a flame war. Was the HPS installation performed by HPS or an independent dealer/distributor? Thanks!
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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It was done by HPS.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Tezta
Is Kleemann doing all these corrections free of charge?
I agreed to pay for all parts that Kleemann finds that do not meet Mercedes Benz Specifications, and are required to operate the car as intended. Not all parts that were found were damaged by the installation or removal of the previous S/C.

For example:
The towing company that picked up the car to have the S/C removed broke the Headlamp Range Adjustment Sensor. (Not the shipping company that delivered the car to Kleemann, they used wheel straps not suspension straps) Granted this was not HPS fault, but the car was in their care and they were responsible for anything that happens to the car while they have possession. This would have been easily found if HPS would have ran a diagnostic test as they were suppose to do per our agreement.

FYI, for those of you that have a CLK and this may include other Mercedes Benz models.
Make sure the Towing Company knows how to tow a MB. There is a Headlamp Range Adjustment Sensor located on the right rear Suspension. This sensor is conveniently located where a towing strap would easily fit. When tightening the strap the sensors leveling arm gets pulled to far back and snaps off. The sensor gets a load reading and your lead lights adjust downward not giving you adequate headlight range.

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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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I have a question and I don't want to incite a flame war. Was the HPS installation performed by HPS or an independent dealer/distributor? Thanks!
Both HPS and a mechanic at a location other than the HPS facility did the work.
Top Line in Burlingame California removed the S/C.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Timster
Both HPS and a mechanic at a location other than the HPS facility did the work.
Top Line in Burlingame California removed the S/C.
so you dealt w/ Zim? how do u like his work?
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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so you dealt w/ Zim? how do u like his work?
I didn't meet anyone but HPS representatives. All the others were closely guarded, and I was not allowed to over see any of the work. Nor was I allowed to go to where the work was done.
Even though I asked many times.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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hi tim,

i meant zim from topline in burlingame not the HPS folks.
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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hi tim,

i meant zim from topline in burlingame not the HPS folks.
Sorry didn't get to meet anybody at Top Line either. I believe I spoke to a guy named Joe on the phone but that was it.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Re: This is the kind of work HPS does!

Originally posted by Timster
Before installing the new Kleemann Supercharger System. Kleemann USA Inc in Colorado Springs is currently correcting all the previous work that was done to my car.
The picture below is only one of many parts found that where broken, either during the installation or after the car was put back to stock. This clearly shows a lack of technical expertise and care in the installation of aftermarket products by HPS. I have a list of other problems caused by the installation of the previous Super Charger system, either during the installation or durning the removal.
Dear Timster on Benz sport.com the statement clearly stats you are satisfied with the work done with HPS. why do you continue to make posts like this on mbworld?

I don’t get it your happy on one forum but angry on another
Can you please explain?

Here is the quote you made on BNZsport.com:


I have only posted facts and that there was a problem. The problem has been corrected by terms agreed upon by HPS and myself.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Maybe Tim should follow your example, and create 15 different aliases to post under.

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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i say give it a break HPS and its affiliates.... its gettin ridiculous... stop this childish game/act... i doubt anyone here is seroiusly interested in your product anyways so stop playing games to defend urself and most importantly stop wasting ppl's valuable time

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