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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Kleemann Clk55k- 438 Rwhp

We had a very nice CLK55 AMG last week from Philadelphia to do a Kompressor system. The customer also had our SC ECU modifications done at the same time. The end results were incredible- 438 RWHP and 455 RWTQ. Colorado pump gas.

The owner will probably post a follow up in his own words- I just wanted to share the news here on this forum.

Snipped from Zuchinni Sport:

Originally posted by W420
Wow, another AMG monster! Congrats!!

So Joe, how about some Dyno & 1/4 mile numbers for us unworthy ones to drool over them? (Might want to start a new thread under Engine Tuning forum about this)
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Well, I was trying to hold off giving out detail until I had the chance to sit down and jot down an appropriate write up about my experience with Kleemann. They really deserve the recognition, no one can touch these guys when it comes to tuning Mercedes IMO.

The latest Dyno numbers show ~ 438 RWHP and ~455 ft/lbs of torque....AT THE WHEELS, not the crank
Keep in mind, I also had Brandon and Corey do some chip work too.

I don't have any significant 1/4 mile times yet, but I'm working on it. I ran it a couple times, but I couldn't hook up right. The ECU also was not programmed for the supercharger at the time, so I'm planning on taking it to Englishtown for some runs next week. I'm expecting low to mid twelves using street tires. If my friend comes through, I'll throw some slicks on and get those time out also.

I'll scan the Dyno sheets and get some pics up when I get a chance, along with a write up of my little journey through Colorado.

Probably, the most satisfying experience with Mercedes tuning I ever had. Stay tuned, way more to come.


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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Heres a few shots of the car:
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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On the dyno:
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Engine shot:
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Awesome guys good job

What kind of rwhp can you guys hit on a 500 series engine?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by FInality
Awesome guys good job

What kind of rwhp can you guys hit on a 500 series engine?
This depends on what you do- numbers range from high 380's to low 400's (Kompressor and ECU tuning).

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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but lots of people have lowly CLK320s, like me, so you need to supe one of those up for display. I will graciously volunteer my car as the guinea pig.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Thanks for the kind words Brandon. Nice pics too, but that smokey burnout of my car doesn't come close to showing the BEAST within back here at sea level and 94 Octane gas....stay tuned
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Before and after dyno:

(Sorry Joe- I had to do it! )
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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Congrats Joe!

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Is the ECU you guys used specifically for your Kleemann kit? Would it be possible to combine your G4 kleemann kit + kleemann ECU + MKB 55 kit??? Pros? Cons??

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Put into perspective these figures on a Dynojet are about the same as a Renntech modified AMG compressor motor. The Renntech mods seem to give a little more torque though.
One major difference is that Kleemann seems to be about 1/3 of the price!
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
Before and after dyno:

(Sorry Joe- I had to do it! )
Be my guest, your more than welcome to release any data you want from my vehicle.

I had posted the same graph in the thread "two thumbs up for Kleemann USA" earlier this afternoon. But, with these kinds of numbers, the more the merrier

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by stephens
Put into perspective these figures on a Dynojet are about the same as a Renntech modified AMG compressor motor. The Renntech mods seem to give a little more torque though.
One major difference is that Kleemann seems to be about 1/3 of the price!
aint life grand
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Congrats on the mods Joe. Very impressive stuff you got there.

Brandon: Would it be realistic to achieve 400rwhp with your s/c and ecu tuning for a 98 C43?

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by Denlasoul
Congrats on the mods Joe. Very impressive stuff you got there.

Brandon: Would it be realistic to achieve 400rwhp with your s/c and ecu tuning for a 98 C43?

DLS
Denlasoul-

It would not be realistic to get these numbers from a C43. The C43 engine is a slightly tuned (cams and ECU) CLK430 engine. The way those items get you over and above a standard engine are not particularly useful in a SC application. We have done many C43's and they render the same result as a standard CLK430- which is about 345 RWHP (or approx 430 crank HP). 400 RWHP equates to abot 500 crank hp- you will need at least a 5 liter engine for this.

Stephens-

Pretty impressive for 1/2 the boost at 10.5:1 CR, no?
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Kleemann,

Don't know about the C43, however, we were able to get very close to 400 rwhp with the combination of the MKB Hypertune kit and a Kleemann SC on my CLK when it was still a 4.3 liter engine. Torque numbers were lower (approximately 370) but the hp number was definitely up there. I'd imagine that ECU tuning could have gotten some more hp and torque, but I can't say for sure.

In any case, can't wait to see what the combination of a 6.2 liter engine, a kleemann SC and some ECU tuning will produce.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by stephens
Put into perspective these figures on a Dynojet are about the same as a Renntech modified AMG compressor motor. The Renntech mods seem to give a little more torque though.
One major difference is that Kleemann seems to be about 1/3 of the price!
Actually, if you look at Renntech's compressor upgrade kit for the W208 CLK55, it looks lke the end numbers are slightly lower than Joe55's numbers...., however, Renntech doesn't post rear wheel numbers on their site so it's hard to tell for sure.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Kleemann,

Don't know about the C43, however, we were able to get very close to 400 rwhp with the combination of the MKB Hypertune kit and a Kleemann SC on my CLK when it was still a 4.3 liter engine. Torque numbers were lower (approximately 370) but the hp number was definitely up there. I'd imagine that ECU tuning could have gotten some more hp and torque, but I can't say for sure.

In any case, can't wait to see what the combination of a 6.2 liter engine, a kleemann SC and some ECU tuning will produce.
I agree with you completely, headers, cats proper SC grind cams could get you over 400 RWHP- I read his question to be just with SC and ECU was this possible, the answer to that is no.
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Sorry, didn't read carefully.
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Originally posted by Sleestack
Actually, if you look at Renntech's compressor upgrade kit for the W208 CLK55, it looks lke the end numbers are slightly lower than Joe55's numbers...., however, Renntech doesn't post rear wheel numbers on their site so it's hard to tell for sure.
I based my observation on some Renntech dyno graphs, not the specs listed on their website.

This doesn't take away from the awesome result achieved here by Kleemann.
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Which car was used in that RennTech dyno? Not trying to start a debate here... just interested. I would imagine that it would be one of the new 55's (i.e. W211 E55). I'm looking at their SC/ECU upgrades on their website for the W208 and W210. Those numbers appear to be lower than Kleemann's. I believe Kleemann's application for the new E55 nets higher numbers than those for the W210.
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