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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:58 AM
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Ok Ive done it. ECU was sent off to Powerchip today. Lets see if these guys can give me the 11% increase in power they promised. Should be getting it back arond the 23rd. Will get back to you all with Dyno results etc.
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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I'm really interested in your results. I hope things work out.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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What kind of a car you putting it on, cause I've been thinking about it for a long time too, but haven't really seen REAL results yet... Thanks and good Luck...
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Old Aug 20, 2003 | 04:08 AM
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F___en Fedex. P___ed Off. They misplaced my parcel in there safe bla bla bla.... toys all over the place. Got free shipping for a year. Dont give a rats.......... Will only have ECU on the 28th.
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Old Aug 20, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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Oh that SUCKs, sorry to hear that.... well let us know how it is after the install...
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Also, would you share the cost with us...

and how is Powerchip's service like. Do they help out with ECU removal/installation etc..? Good luck... Let us know if you "feel" the performance difference right away... and any measurable mileage improvements...
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Cost 1200 AU $

Ryan and Brent at Powerchip have been fantastic AU customs on the otherhand have been an a total mess
Package status
ALEXANDRIA AU 08/26/2003 20:11 Released for Delivery
ALEXANDRIA AU 08/25/2003 06:42 Clearance Delay
ALEXANDRIA AU 08/24/2003 13:51 Clearance Delay
ALEXANDRIA AU 08/23/2003 13:27
SINGAPORE SG 08/23/2003 07:47
SUBIC BAY FREEPORT PH 08/23/2003 00:31

Like anything can be done at 8pm.

Anyway when it gets here I'll tell you all about it. I'll first run a full tank of 98 before the dyno.

I feel like a kid before his birthday
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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LOL, well Happy Early PowerChip Day, hope it'll be a good one...
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Remeber to put about 100 miles on the car before testing.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Remeber to put about 100 miles on the car before testing.
I was wondering about that. Does it really matter since the ECU is remapped or does some former "learned" calibration remain?
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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In order for any changes ECU, SC, intake, exhuast, cams, etc to be completely learned by the ECU, approxmately 50-150 miles are needed (sometimes more). How many miles depends on the driving characteristics and the ECU's ability to be exposed to more scenarios.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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Very interesting. I knew that the ECU has learning ability but wasn't sure it would get any better than right after a reset.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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"learned" calabration

The "learned" calabration dose still remain. it has to in order to protect the engine. At the time I took the ECU I was running 95 so timing fuel/O2 mix etc will all have to adjust to fit in with the new map. New averages have to be established bla bla Bla......

Just Got word. Powerchip have my ECU whooooooooo
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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So Ben,

has then been any Dyno tested results for the before & after PowerChip ECUs? I thought evosport was working on getting one installed?

any updates yet?
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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We've done a ton of Powerchip dyno's. CLK69 posted his CLK55 dyno w/ the Powerchip.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Mach430
We've done a ton of Powerchip dyno's. CLK69 posted his CLK55 dyno w/ the Powerchip.
I will search the forum for that later...

but, do you think this ECU is worth it? Many have said ECU swaps in the past have not yielded very much gains since we have naturally aspirated engines...
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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I will search the forum for that later...

but, do you think this ECU is worth it? Many have said ECU swaps in the past have not yielded very much gains since we have naturally aspirated engines...
Both my CLK430 and my E55 have Powerchip ECU upgrades. The CLK still lacks power in lower RPMs but the midrange from 3-4500 has really improved. It is much more fun to drive now.

The E55 had the biggest improvement. G-tech says .1-.2 quicker to 60 and 38HP but I'm guessing 20-25 based on Powerchip info. Low end, mid range, top end all improved. Especially the mid range. I can break the tires loose at any speed in first gear. Traction is seriously a problem now when letting the car downshift into first gear.

It was well worth the money.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Any of you know about http://www.speedtuningusa.com/ or have had contact with them and why they would do it fraction of Power Chips Price, How legite are they??? Thanks...
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Powerchip version?

E55AMG99,

I was wondering if you could tell me what ECU chip version you purchased? Was it the 91 or 93 version?

I also live in the Bay Area and as you know 93 octane is not available at the pumps so I was just curious what chip was delivering the type of performance you stated.


Thanks,
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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My version

is the 98 Gold. Its almost here. Woooohooooooooo
Wonder what gains i'll get, 10% will do. Any bets what its going to be?

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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Powerchip version?

Originally posted by Ttsakai
E55AMG99,

I was wondering if you could tell me what ECU chip version you purchased? Was it the 91 or 93 version?

I also live in the Bay Area and as you know 93 octane is not available at the pumps so I was just curious what chip was delivering the type of performance you stated.


Thanks,
CLK430 got the 91 version (19HP) since wifey drives it mostly. The E55 got one that was neither 91 nor 93. I think they called it 91 plus or something like that and want you to run booster if you plan on driving it hard. They said to expect about 20HP. The mid range torque is amazing.

I use a mix of 91 and 100 race fuel from the 76 station on Foxworthy and Almaden.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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It is good to know which version I'm going to ask for the E55, I drive it hard 85% of the time.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by E55AMG99
Both my CLK430 and my E55 have Powerchip ECU upgrades. The CLK still lacks power in lower RPMs but the midrange from 3-4500 has really improved. It is much more fun to drive now.

The E55 had the biggest improvement. G-tech says .1-.2 quicker to 60 and 38HP but I'm guessing 20-25 based on Powerchip info. Low end, mid range, top end all improved. Especially the mid range. I can break the tires loose at any speed in first gear. Traction is seriously a problem now when letting the car downshift into first gear.

It was well worth the money.
since you got the 91 version for the CLK... are you running 91 octane or are you mixing it with the 100 octane racing fuel?

how's the performance difference between running 91 octane compared to mixing it with racing fuel (granted that you've tried higher octanes)

thanks
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by mmgrad
since you got the 91 version for the CLK... are you running 91 octane or are you mixing it with the 100 octane racing fuel?

how's the performance difference between running 91 octane compared to mixing it with racing fuel (granted that you've tried higher octanes)

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I run 91 in the CLK and don't think I've ever tried anything higher. Never put the G-tech in it either. Too lazy I guess My wife would suspect I changed something. "Honest honey, it got faster all by itself"!

In the E, my butt dyno can't feel the difference between 91 and 50/50 mix with 100 on the first run or if the car and air temps are cool. After a hard run or two, the performance drops a little. On hot days, the performance drop is VERY noticable if I run 91 and drive it hard. In fact when it's hot, the engine misses so bad over 53-5400RPM that it loses almost all power unless I mix some high octane in the tank. However, this is only if the outside temps are over 95 or so.

G-tech says 4.9 to sixty on the first run or if it is cold outside. 5.0 otherwise. Before ECU upgrade it was 5.2. My G-tech tests were on a full tank of 100 but I did not drive the car very far after the ECU was installed. I find out now that I should have driven the car for a couple hundred miles to let the computer adjust. Oh well.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by E55AMG99
I run 91 in the CLK and don't think I've ever tried anything higher. Never put the G-tech in it either. Too lazy I guess My wife would suspect I changed something. "Honest honey, it got faster all by itself"!

In the E, my butt dyno can't feel the difference between 91 and 50/50 mix with 100 on the first run or if the car and air temps are cool. After a hard run or two, the performance drops a little. On hot days, the performance drop is VERY noticable if I run 91 and drive it hard. In fact when it's hot, the engine misses so bad over 53-5400RPM that it loses almost all power unless I mix some high octane in the tank. However, this is only if the outside temps are over 95 or so.

G-tech says 4.9 to sixty on the first run or if it is cold outside. 5.0 otherwise. Before ECU upgrade it was 5.2. My G-tech tests were on a full tank of 100 but I did not drive the car very far after the ECU was installed. I find out now that I should have driven the car for a couple hundred miles to let the computer adjust. Oh well.
so... are you saying that with the new ECU upgrade, under certain environmental conditions that your car will underperform a stock car of the same caliber?
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