I blew my E55 Engine!!! [Video}
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I blew my E55 Engine!!! [Video}
I am known to break things very well and this time is no exception....Not just ONE hole in the motor, but TWO!!! oh yeah!
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The dealer thinks I modded the engine so they said no to warranty. If anyone knows where I can find one lemme know. Short block is preffered.
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video shows
- that the car is a V8 Kompressor, thus the 469PS version???
Am I wrong or is the car just mislabelled - or is this really a blown kompressor engine?
How did it happend??
Jari
Am I wrong or is the car just mislabelled - or is this really a blown kompressor engine?
How did it happend??
Jari
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"Bored to 6.0 liters, Supercharger, K&N, No cats, Flowmaster..."
Any lesson learn you wanna share ?
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ummm, I told them the engine was completely stock and it is!!!
They 'claim' saw some electrical tape and a hole that had been drilled (if that is true, which it isnt, its all accidentally, of course) and they 'assumed' that aftermarket equiptment had been installed and that these 'alleged'(imaginary) aftermarket items had caused the engine to fail!
They only look at it for a few minutes and didnt take anything apart.
But the service manager (Phil Sitzman) at Helms Bros. MB on Long Island is sticking with his story. He 'flagged' my vin the MB worldwide computer system.
Technically its called '8' (eight) status and means that no warranty work can be performed unless a regional rep comes and checks it out. And so technically they remove the 8 status until I fix it.
Since this dealer is like a 'franchise' ,independantly owned, I have to sue this person individually for libel. His libel caused me a loss of $40k (thats what an AMGE55 engine costs from MB)
p.s. it was never bored or s/c or turbocharged or anything else done to the engine, just the stickers were put on.
also, in the meantime, I need a used motor! anyone selling one???? long or short block. or even just a block. an ml55 motor would work too
They 'claim' saw some electrical tape and a hole that had been drilled (if that is true, which it isnt, its all accidentally, of course) and they 'assumed' that aftermarket equiptment had been installed and that these 'alleged'(imaginary) aftermarket items had caused the engine to fail!
They only look at it for a few minutes and didnt take anything apart.
But the service manager (Phil Sitzman) at Helms Bros. MB on Long Island is sticking with his story. He 'flagged' my vin the MB worldwide computer system.
Technically its called '8' (eight) status and means that no warranty work can be performed unless a regional rep comes and checks it out. And so technically they remove the 8 status until I fix it.
Since this dealer is like a 'franchise' ,independantly owned, I have to sue this person individually for libel. His libel caused me a loss of $40k (thats what an AMGE55 engine costs from MB)
p.s. it was never bored or s/c or turbocharged or anything else done to the engine, just the stickers were put on.
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also, in the meantime, I need a used motor! anyone selling one???? long or short block. or even just a block. an ml55 motor would work too
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bad news. i've blown every engine on every car i have ever owned, so i know exactly how you are feeling. unlike you though, my cars where all little four cylinder *****ters so fixing them did not require a re-morgage. Your MD stealer sounds like a ****. try contacting MB USA and tell them about it. it could be that the service manager has a deep dislike of AMG pilots or is just incompetent. whatever the weather, if it aint modded then you are within warranty and within your rights to claim a new motor. if that fails then you could get a new block and rebuild the engine. you could lower the compression ratio, flow the heads, add larger valves etc and really boost the output. i dont know much about amg motors but a fully worked group A four cylinder rebuild is about £5000. god knows what that would be like for an AMG, but I would guess that you could get a rebuild with flowed heads etc for not much more than that.
sorry to hear the news, it really is heavy.
sorry to hear the news, it really is heavy.
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E60 Warranty
This is the same car which you had modified to an "E60" and it was in the Khaos video on your website. There is no way you that you should get warranty. That is just robbery. You modify it and abuse it and have fun with it at your own expense.
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Re: E60 Warranty
Originally posted by 99E55
This is the same car which you had modified to an "E60" and it was in the Khaos video on your website. There is no way you that you should get warranty. That is just robbery. You modify it and abuse it and have fun with it at your own expense.
This is the same car which you had modified to an "E60" and it was in the Khaos video on your website. There is no way you that you should get warranty. That is just robbery. You modify it and abuse it and have fun with it at your own expense.
Which I do NOT think it is.
just speculating.....hypothetically speaking if the oil pump failed, that would cause internal damage on its own. I could have installed a turbo charger, supercharger and nitrous and it doesnt matter cuz the engine was 'defective' to begin with and was going to break on its own anyhow.....
That is my position, prove to me that I caused it and it didnt happen on its own. The dealer is just blowing me off and thats not right.
ps. i dont wanna hear that AMG engines last forever, dont blow on there own, blah,blah,blah, cuz metal is metal and ALL engines can fail
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Dude,
I don't need to prove anything. You need to prove to the dealer that you had not been messing with that engine. And you have.
That engine and its components were designed for a certain amount of power. When you go and bore it out to 6.0 liters and slap on a supercharger you start pushing it beyond its capabilities and it blows. I think that is pretty simple to understand.
For the W211, AMG did not just drop a supercharger on that engine without some reenforcement of the engine and its components. I am sure other folks on this board can give you details of all the enhancements to the new 55 block.
In any case I don't to draw this out into one of those posts that go on for ever. Just be fair man.
I don't need to prove anything. You need to prove to the dealer that you had not been messing with that engine. And you have.
That engine and its components were designed for a certain amount of power. When you go and bore it out to 6.0 liters and slap on a supercharger you start pushing it beyond its capabilities and it blows. I think that is pretty simple to understand.
For the W211, AMG did not just drop a supercharger on that engine without some reenforcement of the engine and its components. I am sure other folks on this board can give you details of all the enhancements to the new 55 block.
In any case I don't to draw this out into one of those posts that go on for ever. Just be fair man.
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..........I still don't understand. Was the engine modified or not? and if so, what kind of modification.This information can actually be very useful to those of us who modify their cars. This can help one learn what not to do. I believe Sleestack is having his engine bored out. He might be interested in knowing what you did. I recognize that legal reasons might prevent you from giving full info, but do give as much info as you can as soon as you can. Regarding warranty, I hope you win your case but if you indeed had the engine bored to 6.0 liters and then supercharged, it may not even matter what truly caused your engine to blow.......I would think that virtually every MB dealer will blame it on you. Unless your lawyer is some type of a genius, you maybe getting raped again with legal bills. You may wish to save the money you are about to dish out to your attorney and put it towards a new engine. Except of course if you never modified the engine.
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Re: I blew my E55 Engine!!! [Video}
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I am known to break things very well and this time is no exception....Not just ONE hole in the motor, but TWO!!! oh yeah!
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.....also, in the meantime, I need a used motor! anyone selling one???? long or short block. or even just a block. an ml55 motor would work too
.....also, in the meantime, I need a used motor! anyone selling one???? long or short block. or even just a block. an ml55 motor would work too
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Re: E60 Warranty
Originally posted by 99E55
When you go and bore it out to 6.0 liters and slap on a supercharger you start pushing it beyond its capabilities and it blows. I think that is pretty simple to understand
When you go and bore it out to 6.0 liters and slap on a supercharger you start pushing it beyond its capabilities and it blows. I think that is pretty simple to understand
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thought the engine was not modded
if you bore a block out, you reduce the thickness of the liner walls in the block. to avoid the block failing, you should stud the block, which means vertically drilling through the block and installing strengthening rods. when they bored out to 6 litres and installed the S/C did they replace the pistons & lower your compression ratio? If you where running boost in a weakened block with a high compression ratio... BooM!
if you so much as fit a performance air filter then you loose your warranty. thats the way it is. Arguing that your engine is under warranty even though you had it pulled apart and rebuilt.... good luck!
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if you so much as fit a performance air filter then you loose your warranty. thats the way it is. Arguing that your engine is under warranty even though you had it pulled apart and rebuilt.... good luck!
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According to federal law (magnuson-moss warranty act), the dealer or manufacturer can't revoke your warranty unless they can PROVE that the modifications (if any) were the root cause of the failure.
This isn't something I am making up. Look it up with a GOOGLE search.
This isn't something I am making up. Look it up with a GOOGLE search.