yxc145

Does anyone know anything or installed the ECU chip by Eurorev?
can you tell me a little information about it? Thanks

the link is http://www.eurorev.com/products/inde...roduct&id=3296

Mach430

Stick with Powerchip. They offer the best ECU tuning for the Mercedes - PERIOD.

430

Mch430 -- Here is a question for you, just don't take it the wrong way

I know that you guys worked with powerchips and helped them tune it for a number of cars. What makes their chip so much better than say Renntech? Please take this as question at face value. I am just trying to learn more about the products you guys sell.

At some point I am going to get a Pulley, Chilp, SL55 intake and maybe the headers, most likely from you guys. I need to get MB to finally solve an issue I am having with early shifting out of 1st gear before I make any performance modifications.

Mach430

430,

In searching for the best ecu tuner to work with, we tested many cars and worked directly with many manufacturers. There are a few reasons that we eventually chose Powerchip:

1. Drivability - Powerchip spends countless hours testing each car when developing their software in order to be sure to improve the drivability on all maps of the car. The result is better response under any condition.

2. Performance - Many of the software we tested from other vendors felt good, but on the dyno revealed no gains. Sometimes this was a result of no peak gains while still offering better drivability and other times it may have been because power was reduced down low, in order to make the car feel as if there is a sudden surge in power when reaching normal power at the higher rpms. Other times, it just didn't work... Powerchip has been constantly good in obtaining what they quote.

3. Customization vs replication - Many companies purchase the same software from a source in Europe. This software works well in Europe, but is not tuned for US gas; especially 91 octane. Since Powerchip produces their own software, they have the ability to adjust the software to suit almost any scenario (different octane, intake, exhaust, supercharger, cams, etc). This is why we often have them twice a week on our dyno specially tuning cars!

4. 14 day money back guarantee - Try the software for 2 weeks. If you do not like it, they will refund the cost (less shipping).

5. The list goes on from here, I will let some of the forum members chime in and add their comments.

Thanks,

Ben

yxc145

I heard power chip is a reputable company that offers a good chip. But a little pricey!! $850!!! compare to other companies like Upsolute, speedtuning, Powerchip is twice or 3 times as much!!! So, back to the original question. Anyone heard anything about EuroRev chips? I heard the guy that developed and design that chip worked for PowerChip originally. Maybe he used the same design ideas??
Question 2: how about Upsolute chip? is it good?

Greg Elmassian

I have an '03 SL500... the powerchip site says it will take my 302 hp to 323....

If it really adds 21 hp, is this a reasonable seat of the pants difference? it's less than 10% (I don't expect miracles in a normally aspirated engine)

Also, do any of you know of an update for the trans so it upshifts later, and holds gears longer (like my Audi A8 in sport mode, boy do I wish they made the tranny!)

Thanks,

Greg

430

I have seen postings of mixed results on gains from powerchips, several claiming no gain at all. This is not on the versions that were created with the help of Evo.

Couple of big questions: 1) how up to date with the latest releases of MB software does Powerchip stay? 2) How often can I send my chip in for reflashing and is there a fee for this service? The local MB dealership seems to want to flash the ECU every visit.

yxc145

I thought you only need to get the ECU flahsed once by the tuner to gain more HP and torque. Do you lose the gained power after a period of time?? Is that why you need to reflashed over and over??
Ok, we are leaving the main subject again.. EUROREV chip!!!!!
anyone used it?? Please, please give me some info.

430

You do not loose any of the gains from the program over time. The problem is that just like the tuner flashing your ECu, MB can do the same thing and overwrite the program you just paid good money for. Some dealers are quicker to flash the ECU than others.

yxc145

man.. I think I am wayyyyyyy to spontaneous!!!!
I was getting the Brabus front bumper and rear spoiler put on this morning. Since I was sort of in the neighborhood. I decided to stop by EuroRev to check out the chip. I test drove the owner's E320 w/ the chip. It felt ok, a little different...... But, I decided to get it anyway. I took it out for a short test drive after it was installed.. I also didn't feel much improvement either...
UNTIL!!!!!! on the way home from the tuner. I finally felt the difference. Noticeable Difference!!! and now I can totally tell the power increased everytime I drive. Is it because it takes time for the computer to readjust to the setting, mapping?
Well, I don't know. I am happy w/ the result.. but I have to say... I am wayy..... too spontaneous. spend over $2000 in one day while I am still 5 in debt........... CARS.. they are expensive toys!!

fabio1

The E.C.U takes a while to respond to the full changes in the chip program

430

Before and After Dyno runs or Before and After 1/4 mile runs are the only true way to measure performance differences.

Glad you are happy with your purchase but there can be a placebo effect. Think how much better your car seems to run/ride after a good wash and wax.

yxc145

dyno is too expensive. but, how do i do the 1/4 mile run?? can you tell me? 430.
wait, wash and wax??? making your car clean makes it go faster?? is it like the same effect as Olympic swimmer shaving their whole body to get like 0.000000001 sec gain??

430

Dyno too expensive? You drive an MB and are going to sweat $50 - $100 to verify that the money you spent on your new, unknown/unproven chip actually performs? Skip those Starbucks coffee's for 2 weeks and your dyno is paid for.

Actually shaving your body gains the swimmer ~.5 seconds (on a 100 meter sprint).

No, washing & waxing does not really make your car faster. I am just saying that after giving your baby some TLC it seems as if it is faster. Same thing with noise. Add a loud muffler to your car and you will swear your car is faster, when in fact it might be a tad slower.

As far as the 1/4 mile. You need to go to the drag strip for the most accurate results. You are measuring your elapsed time and speed after a quarter mile.

yxc145

only $50-100?! man, the dude at the shop lied to me. He said it will cost about $300 +.
ah.. washing and waxing!! psycological horse power on the car!!! I like that idea. I am washing my car everyday now!!!!!
Oh, I don't drink coffee.

430

If the same shop that installed your chip is telling you it is $300 to dyno your car they just took you to the cleaners. The only reason to qoute a price like that is because they have something to hide.

My guess, the chip added no power but has given you better throttle response.

If they made any kind of money back guarntee & return period I would take them up on it and spend your money elsewhere.

yxc145

You think so??......
but, it doesn't feel just the throttle response. it actually feel faster all around, all range.. could it be psycological? I dont'know. But, the owner also had the same software installed. I wouldn't think he would do such a thing to his car, would he?

crapbuster

eurorev? hmm... i wouldn't hand them my car to tune. they are just tweaking stuff without any R&D and warranty to back you up. that's just scary to do. what if something goes wrong? say bye bye to your warranty.

yxc145

Really?? you heard bad things about them??
they say they will cover anything that happens to the car.....
what's R&D??

crapbuster

I never heard any bad things about them.

However, tweaking an ECU is not a simple thing to do.

R&D means Research and Development.

That is something that many tuners spend years on before releasing their product.

And I have a feeling that Eurorev does not have very much R&D in their chip tuning. I could be wrong though.

When doing any chip tuning, I'd would go with a big name tuner first. The ECU is the brain of the car.

Here's a good analogy. Would you go to a plastic surgeon to operate on your brain? No matter what guarantees they give you? I don't think so....

yxc145

I know what you are saying..... You are right...

But, too late now... sigh.. I already did it. Just hope nothing happens and if something does happen, they will honor their warranty.
They guy that did my car is some kid in his early twenties. He seems to know what he was doing and he said he worked w/ Powerchip for a few years before joining EuroRev. EuroRev isn't a big company, but it's still a known, legit company that does decent jobs. so, IF!! something goes wrong.. I think there is no way they can just hide or take off w/out taking care of the mess right?

netboy

i'm thinking of getting powerchip for my 2003 c320 coupe.. i just worry there might be sideeffects.. like damaging the engine in the long term..

yxc145

um... I am no expert on that....
Powerchip is a big company, good customer service. they should be able to answer that. and if anything goes wrong. i am sure they will take care of it. I am starting to regret getting the chip from a small company... who knows if they will take full responsibility is the engine goes bad.. the only warranty they have is for the chip. sigh.... I dont'know.. NETBOY, why don't you shop around. Upsolute, Powerchip, and maybe give EuroRev a call. see what they say? see if they will cover any possible powertrain problems, or void of warranty, if caused by their chips

Richard Galing

Powerchip provides the best customer service, I've had my PC on my E ride for over a year now...never had an issue, free updates. Furthermore, my dealer tech has a PC on his benzo, makes me sleep better when the vehicle is in for warranty service. If your apprehensive to service your car the stealership...give the boyz at PC a call and they'll direct you to the right people.

netboy

just like getting lazer eyes surgery, i worry there might be side effects.. like going blind in 10 or 20years..
just like powerchip, people do worry about side effects like damaging the engine..
maybe that is why.. not so many people got chip in their car??