Kleemann LSD test report
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Kleemann LSD test report
First, I tested zero start w/esp off.
Rev-up to 1X00 rpm until I feel the brake no longer can hold the car still, release the brake
It STRAIGHT OUT !!! the rear end twisted very slightly,you can easily manage the gas pedal to minimize
such twists or ignore and keep flooring it.
W/O LSD the whole car spinned I did last time, that's totally scaring
So the launch can be faster ? you bet
Second, speed cornering test
..... To be continue
Rev-up to 1X00 rpm until I feel the brake no longer can hold the car still, release the brake
It STRAIGHT OUT !!! the rear end twisted very slightly,you can easily manage the gas pedal to minimize
such twists or ignore and keep flooring it.
W/O LSD the whole car spinned I did last time, that's totally scaring
So the launch can be faster ? you bet
Second, speed cornering test
..... To be continue
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Yes,since you're one of the V8K members.
Think if you turn the esp off & floor the E55K
E55K twists badly,right ? you've to drop & push to keep moving straight.
With LSD you can ignore the minor twist & keep flooring
it moves straight & soon jump to the speed(> 40 mph) that esp is no longer interrupted.
As for V6K, esp off is the best way of launch, I don't see the need of LSD, Their TQ is manageable.
That just speak of sprint, track race is another story.
Kleemann claims 60% of it.
Think if you turn the esp off & floor the E55K
E55K twists badly,right ? you've to drop & push to keep moving straight.
With LSD you can ignore the minor twist & keep flooring
it moves straight & soon jump to the speed(> 40 mph) that esp is no longer interrupted.
As for V6K, esp off is the best way of launch, I don't see the need of LSD, Their TQ is manageable.
That just speak of sprint, track race is another story.
Kleemann claims 60% of it.
Originally Posted by JamE55
Shine
So it's a "big" difference with LSD vs without? How much percentage would you say the grip was WITH the LSD's? Sounds really nice.
So it's a "big" difference with LSD vs without? How much percentage would you say the grip was WITH the LSD's? Sounds really nice.
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Originally Posted by Shine_1023
Yes,since you're one of the V8K members.
Think if you turn the esp off & floor the E55K
E55K twists badly,right ? you've to drop & push to keep moving straight.
With LSD you can ignore the minor twist & keep flooring
it moves straight & soon jump to the speed(> 40 mph) that esp is no longer interrupted.
Kleemann claims 60% of it.
Think if you turn the esp off & floor the E55K
E55K twists badly,right ? you've to drop & push to keep moving straight.
With LSD you can ignore the minor twist & keep flooring
it moves straight & soon jump to the speed(> 40 mph) that esp is no longer interrupted.
Kleemann claims 60% of it.
What a waste of tire. 
Now i'm definitely sold on that one! Need to get it soon along with the other goodies. Also are you running stock ECU or Kleemann or any other? What other mods do you have on yours? What are your thoughts on it?Thanks again!
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Haven't seen a Kleemann chip yet.
Two stage-8 cars were mod here last week, I'll call a meet to see them.
I'm running Kleemann S/C,LSD + MKB package.
though other tuners adapt timing,fueling & promis the gain.
MKB know AMG(MB) better
(1)My rev lift up to 6400 rpm,while others struggle to get
the know how.
(2)Regard the timing, MKB manage unique & perfect maps.
while others try & error to minimize detonation.
(3)Vmax removed, some others can't find & remove the 2nd limiter.....(300 kph)
(4)MKB offers gear box enhencement + speedshift s/w
I recommend it's a MUST for stage-8 runners.
MKB delievers outstanding but expen$ive $ervice.
Two stage-8 cars were mod here last week, I'll call a meet to see them.
I'm running Kleemann S/C,LSD + MKB package.
though other tuners adapt timing,fueling & promis the gain.
MKB know AMG(MB) better
(1)My rev lift up to 6400 rpm,while others struggle to get
the know how.
(2)Regard the timing, MKB manage unique & perfect maps.
while others try & error to minimize detonation.
(3)Vmax removed, some others can't find & remove the 2nd limiter.....(300 kph)
(4)MKB offers gear box enhencement + speedshift s/w
I recommend it's a MUST for stage-8 runners.
MKB delievers outstanding but expen$ive $ervice.
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What MKB "package" do you have? Is it MKB headers/downpipes or what MKB exactly do you have? Think i'm going with all kleemann products. I wanted to get the MKB headers and cams before but got me re-thinking that i should just go with all kleemann.
What MKB "package" do you have? Is it MKB headers/downpipes or what MKB exactly do you have? Think i'm going with all kleemann products. I wanted to get the MKB headers and cams before but got me re-thinking that i should just go with all kleemann.
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There's a video clip of CLK-DTM in CLK55 forum.
Repeat its launch at 1'05" of the film
That's it !!!!! a LSD show !!!
There's a video clip of CLK-DTM in CLK55 forum.
Repeat its launch at 1'05" of the film
That's it !!!!! a LSD show !!!
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The agent here will arrange some tests
we'll know then
Curious maybe.
I believe Sleestack tried this combination first
early before Kleemann expand their application.
we'll know then
Curious maybe.
I believe Sleestack tried this combination first
early before Kleemann expand their application.
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Shine
Yes the Stage 8 is available. Was just curious why you went with MKB? How do you like it overall? Performance? MKB and kleemann?
Yes the Stage 8 is available. Was just curious why you went with MKB? How do you like it overall? Performance? MKB and kleemann?
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Thanks Shine! I'll check out the CLK forum for that clip. As far as the MKB Kleemann combo you have was just curious how you like the performance but i'll wait for the test!
Thanks again!
p.s. Do you have the link to the video clip? Can't seem to find it.
Thanks again!
p.s. Do you have the link to the video clip? Can't seem to find it.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Thanks Shine! I'll check out the CLK forum for that clip. As far as the MKB Kleemann combo you have was just curious how you like the performance but i'll wait for the test!
Thanks again!
p.s. Do you have the link to the video clip? Can't seem to find it.
Thanks again!
p.s. Do you have the link to the video clip? Can't seem to find it.
http://www.streamload.com/waldis/is300/CLKDTM.wmv Here it is!
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Holy s**t!
That's is seriously a street manace! Damn wish i could afford it! 
Something to be inspired about! 
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Shine,
Just saw this post after posting the question on Kleeman LSD, can you tell me did you have to do any machining to the rear end? How does the esp work when driving normally, any strange behavior of the esp? Any other comment other than in this post?
Thanks
Just saw this post after posting the question on Kleeman LSD, can you tell me did you have to do any machining to the rear end? How does the esp work when driving normally, any strange behavior of the esp? Any other comment other than in this post?
Thanks
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BlkGold,
I wasn't there to supervise the installation, yet it's been done straight forward. they mentioned a special tool for clamp ring fitting.
w/esp on, you can't tell if LSD is there, neither does esp behave unexpected.
w/esp off,
At launch, LSD track the rear noticeably. very minor twist
than before.
At cornering, 2nd esp still interrupt, the one you can't
off it thru the button.I know a complicated procedure
to off the esp completely, but have never tried.
I wasn't there to supervise the installation, yet it's been done straight forward. they mentioned a special tool for clamp ring fitting.
w/esp on, you can't tell if LSD is there, neither does esp behave unexpected.
w/esp off,
At launch, LSD track the rear noticeably. very minor twist
than before.
At cornering, 2nd esp still interrupt, the one you can't
off it thru the button.I know a complicated procedure
to off the esp completely, but have never tried.
Originally Posted by BlkGold
Shine,
Just saw this post after posting the question on Kleeman LSD, can you tell me did you have to do any machining to the rear end? How does the esp work when driving normally, any strange behavior of the esp? Any other comment other than in this post?
Thanks
Just saw this post after posting the question on Kleeman LSD, can you tell me did you have to do any machining to the rear end? How does the esp work when driving normally, any strange behavior of the esp? Any other comment other than in this post?
Thanks
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Shine,
Thanks for your input. In Car & Driver November in the back half is a section on how to turn all off all via key/dash comb. This is for dynoing the car, so all is off including ABS. It works on my 04' SL600. If you can't find it let me know and i'll post it for you.
Thanks for your input. In Car & Driver November in the back half is a section on how to turn all off all via key/dash comb. This is for dynoing the car, so all is off including ABS. It works on my 04' SL600. If you can't find it let me know and i'll post it for you.
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Turning off ABS/ESP/BAS completely!
Turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before the SRS light goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the “up” arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the “ESP dynamometer test” screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select “on”. And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now off.
To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select “w/t. 15 off” with the minus (-) button.
To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select “w/t. 15 off” with the minus (-) button.
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Originally Posted by BlkGold
Turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before the SRS light goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the “up” arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the “ESP dynamometer test” screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select “on”. And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now off.
To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select “w/t. 15 off” with the minus (-) button.
To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select “w/t. 15 off” with the minus (-) button.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Is this on all class or just the CLK?
