Running low on AdBlue in R350 BlueTec
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Running low on AdBlue in R350 BlueTec
We own a one year old 2010 R350 BlueTec. After about 8,000kms we had the AdBlue warning light go on (we were in Cape Bretton and had just driven the Cabot Trail). Needless to say there was no MB dealer so we had to have some AdBlue shipped to us. A little upset to say the least...but we love the way the car drives.
Now a year into ownership and 6,000km away from Service B, the AdBlue light went off. Took it into dealer today and they added 19litres of the stuff. Now quite pissed as I was charged $157 for this.
So a couple of questions:
1) Is anyone with a 2010 R350 BlueTec experiencing similar issues?
2) Where is the cheapest place to buy AdBlue? I hear VW dealers sell it cheaper.
Any other feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
matthew in montreal
Now a year into ownership and 6,000km away from Service B, the AdBlue light went off. Took it into dealer today and they added 19litres of the stuff. Now quite pissed as I was charged $157 for this.
So a couple of questions:
1) Is anyone with a 2010 R350 BlueTec experiencing similar issues?
2) Where is the cheapest place to buy AdBlue? I hear VW dealers sell it cheaper.
Any other feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
matthew in montreal
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Can't speak for Canada but most VW dealers in the US carry it.Last time I checked a 2.5 gallon jug cost about $13 (US).AdBlue needn't be expensive or troublesome if you're willing to do a little legwork and spend a few minutes every year or so filling it yourself.BTW....last January I saw an R Class Bluetec on the Autoroute that heads east out of Montreal (can't recall the route number)...I wonder if that was you! :-)
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We own a one year old 2010 R350 BlueTec. After about 8,000kms we had the AdBlue warning light go on (we were in Cape Bretton and had just driven the Cabot Trail). Needless to say there was no MB dealer so we had to have some AdBlue shipped to us. A little upset to say the least...but we love the way the car drives.
Now a year into ownership and 6,000km away from Service B, the AdBlue light went off. Took it into dealer today and they added 19litres of the stuff. Now quite pissed as I was charged $157 for this.
So a couple of questions:
1) Is anyone with a 2010 R350 BlueTec experiencing similar issues?
2) Where is the cheapest place to buy AdBlue? I hear VW dealers sell it cheaper.
Any other feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
matthew in montreal
Now a year into ownership and 6,000km away from Service B, the AdBlue light went off. Took it into dealer today and they added 19litres of the stuff. Now quite pissed as I was charged $157 for this.
So a couple of questions:
1) Is anyone with a 2010 R350 BlueTec experiencing similar issues?
2) Where is the cheapest place to buy AdBlue? I hear VW dealers sell it cheaper.
Any other feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
matthew in montreal
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the 3 names that you listed are different names for the same thing with different levels of specifics. Urea is the actual fluid, DEF(diesel exhaust fliud) is the category for that fluid fluid, AdBlue is just a name.
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Some are even diluting it with distilled watter. I do not know how much, could be a little, could be allot, not sure. But they do it to save money cuz it is used through faster with the bigger diesel engines.
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Adblue is urea, urea is the fluid. urea is used for diesel exhaust systems. adblue is a name. You can buy any kind you want, they all do the same thing.
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Urea is a synthetic urin;
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-urea.htm
I don't recommend relieving yourself into that tank.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-urea.htm
I don't recommend relieving yourself into that tank.
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R320 Adblue problems
I have a 2009 R320 Bluetec approx 90,000 kms. Check engine light + Check Adblue / Operators Manual lights came on couple weeks ago. MB dealer in Blainville (just north of Montreal) cnfm'd Adblue was low and needed refill (20 litres) but main problem was defective Exhaust Gas Recirculation Temperature Sensor, which they replaced (total $ 500.00 approx incl. Adblu refill). A week later I left the car parked at the airport for ten days and when started up again, the CEL and Adblu warnings came back, this time saying "18 Starts Remaining". Dealer then replaced Fill Level Sensor unit, at totally ridiculous cost of $ 1,250.00 + labour (they said codes for compatibility of new Temp Sensor didn't work so Fill Level Sensor had to be replaced) . Immediately leaving the dealer lot, sign came on saying "Key Not Authorized for This Vehicle"....but vehicle continued functioning. Two hours later, CEL and Adblu warning lights came back on....again! Dealer now has vehicle and doing all sorts of computer analysis but can't find source of problems....freaking me out as I just took another 3-yr lease on the vehicle, after excellent performance the first 3 years...warranty had just expired and now these very expensive problems are starting. Anybody have any similar experiences or advice to offer?
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Might want to see what's up with that.
I decided to start running my own AdBlue and so far I'm 14,678 miles on the same tank and no light so far.
And - I did get my stuff at the VW dealer for $13.
I decided to start running my own AdBlue and so far I'm 14,678 miles on the same tank and no light so far.
And - I did get my stuff at the VW dealer for $13.
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Hi guys,
By introduction, I am a petroleum products distributor and major supplier of Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF in the US. ( I'm in the market for a Diesel GL and came across this MB forum). DEF is a careful mixture of 32.5% pharmaceutical grade urea and 67.5% deionized water. My dealerships pay me about 1.75 per gallon for bulk DEF.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation about DEF and I'm pleased to be a resource for anyone who has questions. Now I'm off to try and find a diesel GL...
By introduction, I am a petroleum products distributor and major supplier of Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF in the US. ( I'm in the market for a Diesel GL and came across this MB forum). DEF is a careful mixture of 32.5% pharmaceutical grade urea and 67.5% deionized water. My dealerships pay me about 1.75 per gallon for bulk DEF.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation about DEF and I'm pleased to be a resource for anyone who has questions. Now I'm off to try and find a diesel GL...
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Hi guys,
By introduction, I am a petroleum products distributor and major supplier of Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF in the US. ( I'm in the market for a Diesel GL and came across this MB forum). DEF is a careful mixture of 32.5% pharmaceutical grade urea and 67.5% deionized water. My dealerships pay me about 1.75 per gallon for bulk DEF.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation about DEF and I'm pleased to be a resource for anyone who has questions. Now I'm off to try and find a diesel GL...
By introduction, I am a petroleum products distributor and major supplier of Diesel Exhaust Fluid aka DEF in the US. ( I'm in the market for a Diesel GL and came across this MB forum). DEF is a careful mixture of 32.5% pharmaceutical grade urea and 67.5% deionized water. My dealerships pay me about 1.75 per gallon for bulk DEF.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation about DEF and I'm pleased to be a resource for anyone who has questions. Now I'm off to try and find a diesel GL...
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First Service Adblue
I was notified kindly by our GL350 that it was time to schedule the first service. When I called the dealership, they quoted $280 or so for the oil change and then an additional $200 for the Adblue service.
I had been reading posts of drivers/owners doing this themselves. When I asked if we could just do the Oil change and I would take care of the Urea, the service manager warned " you had better let us do it, if you ever have a maintenance issue and it's Adblue related, Mercedes won't honor your warranty" Is this real, has anyone else received a statement like this?
Over Lunch today, I went to see a friend at an Audi Dealership. They have the same Urea chemical and charged me $22 to fill the tank. No labor. They said that on the Q7's, etc that the Urea is included with the service. I saw how the GL's were filled and it's so easy I'm going to do this myself next time.
If anyone has had an issue with veiled threats of "or Else" please let me know It's been a year now and our GL's average MPG is 23.5 (a lot of city driving
I had been reading posts of drivers/owners doing this themselves. When I asked if we could just do the Oil change and I would take care of the Urea, the service manager warned " you had better let us do it, if you ever have a maintenance issue and it's Adblue related, Mercedes won't honor your warranty" Is this real, has anyone else received a statement like this?
Over Lunch today, I went to see a friend at an Audi Dealership. They have the same Urea chemical and charged me $22 to fill the tank. No labor. They said that on the Q7's, etc that the Urea is included with the service. I saw how the GL's were filled and it's so easy I'm going to do this myself next time.
If anyone has had an issue with veiled threats of "or Else" please let me know It's been a year now and our GL's average MPG is 23.5 (a lot of city driving
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Okay - an update.
I made it 17,000 miles on my tank of ad blue & then a light came on telling me to check it.
Very easy to add. AutoZone sells 2.5 gallon jugs of DEF that is ISO compliant with MB standards for $13.
I added 5 gallons and we'll see how far I make it.
I very much like my dealer, but they were charging $130 every 10,000 mile service.
An easy win.
I made it 17,000 miles on my tank of ad blue & then a light came on telling me to check it.
Very easy to add. AutoZone sells 2.5 gallon jugs of DEF that is ISO compliant with MB standards for $13.
I added 5 gallons and we'll see how far I make it.
I very much like my dealer, but they were charging $130 every 10,000 mile service.
An easy win.
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DEF usable life?
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
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DEF usable life?
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
Adblu is consumed in the exhaust cleaning process how would it be sitting around waiting to be flushed?
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DEF usable life?
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
HYDROCARBONS - your expert comment please: does DEF lose effectiveness in reaction with nitrogen oxide over time? It seems some DEF suppliers quote a 2-year shelf life. This would be consistent with MB specification to flush the DEF tank and refill every 2 years.
